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"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> wrote in message
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Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:35:13 -0700, Mark Fergerson wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:


On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 08:04:46 -0700, Mark Fergerson wrote:

Now, once again, I ask you to tell me what exactly the 9-11 events
were supposedly a "righteous" response to.

Afghanistan, Lebanon, Palestine, to name a few.

Where does some fucking jumped-up wannabe prophet get off blaming _me_
for a local warlord's inability to convince the locals to build a
society instead of continuing centuries of idiotic Hatfield/McCoyism?
Fucking braindead asshole Arafat does _not_ deserve to die peacefully in
his sleep.

Doesn't take much to trip your wire, does it?

Yeah, three thousand plus dead Americans shouldn't set me off like that.

Fucking arrogant OBL can't keep his shit together and blames everyone
but himself.

Mark L. Fergerson

9/11 may have come and gone, but make no mistake about it, MANY have NOT
forgotten. I - for one. I may not agree with what all our President is
doing, but I am still full blooded American and will do my part to defend
against the CSers such as OBL. I hope him and all his followers die a very
horrible death. Afghanistan should have been nuked, there is no way he would
have escaped. From here in - anyone who screws with us should pay the price.
To hell with playing by "rules". They don't. WHY the hell should we? KICK
ASS.

TBA

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:45:12 +0000, Tom MacIntyre wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:03:21 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
null@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:52:20 +1300, Terry Given wrote:

mum at a cafe having lunch/coffee with friends, sprogs abound. Adults
talking, kid comes up and says "mum, mum..." mum ignores kid for 5
minutes or so, then screams at kid to be quiet, and gives kid a wallop.

What's this guy supposed to do? Lacking a time machine, of course:
http://www.punchbaby.com/media/gitfakt/clips/ads/condoms.mpg

Cheers!
Rich

That's the whole point...what he was supposed to do has already not
been done a long time ago, or has been subverted.

Raising children is a complicated thing, and is sadly trivialized by
many. Interfering relatives, friends, and even strangers can create
havoc in the parenting experience, because the child just wants
someone, anyone, to agree with them. In the end, if you fail as a
parent due to the actions of others, you get the blame, because...it's
YOUR child, after all.

I think there might even be kids who would be happy to have someone,
anyone, even acknowledge that they _exist._

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Terry Given]

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R. Steve Walz wrote:

[snip]


Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with

your

own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.

Welcome to the club.



I didn't reply because it got too personal.
There was the arrogance of my stepfather
facing me with the same line, "I have the right"

Understandable. RSW seems to fly right off the handle at the slightest
provocation. Didja see his assertion that one slap from his father would
have turned him into a homicidal maniac? ROTFLMAO!

Better to avoid such people than Kill them!
Obviously I left home and Joined the Army,
where they taught me to kill with my bare hands.
That sure taught me to control my temper!

I learned a few nasty tricks from a decade or two of martial arts. So
far it has been incredibly useful, in that I am quietly confident
(learning to keep my mouth shut when someone pisses me off has been a
factor too). Nobody has ever picked on me in a social setting (6'2" 90kg
helps), and I have only been "mugged" twice - once in Westwood MA, on
christmas eve, when the pair of muggers (armed with 2x4's) just left
after I asked them nicely (I was smiling, quite a bit bigger than either
of them, and obviously more than willing to take them both on. I think
it showed), and once in Palmerston North when a guy demanded my wallet
as I walked down an alley. A single blow to the chin took care of him
(he was leaning against a concrete block wall), without breaking stride.
His 3-4 mates decided against having a go (I think the kiai helped a
great deal).

one of my favourite phrases is "walk softly and carry a big stick"

Cheers
Terry

 

[Dennis M. O'Connor]

"Bob Stephens" <stephensyomamadigital@earthlink.net> wrote ...

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:43:10 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

If smoking _caused_ cancer, not only would there be no smoker
who ever escaped, but there would be no non-smoker who ever
got cancer.

Talk about fuzzy logic...

No, I'm familiar with fuzzy logic (a legitimate form of logic
that uses continuous, rather than Boolean, truth values),
and what "Rich The Philosophizer" is using isn't that.
It's illogic: anyone with even a modest familiarity with logic
knows that "A causes B" doesn't imply "only A causes B",
yet "Rich" thinks it does.

"Rich" strikes me as being either a 12-year old, an idiot,
a lunatic or a troll. Or some combination of the above.
--
Dennis M. O'Connor dmoc@primenet.com

 

[Robert Monsen]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:40:15 +0000, Robert Monsen wrote:


Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:24:04 -0800, Tim Wescott wrote:



Rich The Philosophizer wrote:



I was going to say something marginally similar, just more along the
lines of it's a correlation, which doesn't imply causation. They
could both be things that are caused by something else, like they're
symptoms of some underlying thing, or something.

But Smoking doesn't cause Cancer either, but almost everybody blames
it anyway.


I hope you're being sarcastic about the smoking comment.


Nope. I'm dead serious.

I coded documents in two, count'em, two, tobacco litigations. I have
seen the documents that refute the so-called "scientific studies" that
"proved" that smoking "causes" cancer. And I have seen the documents
that _show_ that the antis' reports are bogus. But they got buried,
because the antis had an agenda to push. These documtents used to be on
the internet, but they've apparently taken those pages down. They were
on the tobacco companies' websites, so they were probably forced to
take them down.

And that's still notwithstanding that smoking does not cause cancer.

One of the studied that got buried, which was published in the Lancet
or maybe the British Medical Journal, showed a correlation between
personality type and cancer that was so strong, that in the same
data set, the distribution of smokers/nonsmokers was below the noise
level. And it wasn't the only study that showed that correlation.

And the personality type that gives itself cancer is characterized
by rigidity of thinking and lack of emotional outlet, which is perfectly
logical, when you really look at the big picture.



Yes, it's a correlation with no causality indicated in the data
presented in the news report. Either the workers only found correlation
and just assumed a causal link, or there was more research than is being
reported.

Whenever you're dealing with humans it makes the double blind
experiments hard to get by the ethics panels.


Tell me about it!

Cheers!
Rich


Why do you think that everybody seems to believe these studies?


For the same reason so many people seem to think George W. Bush is
the best thing since Abe Lincoln.

The folks who advocate these studies don't really have much of an axe to
grind. In fact, I'd say they are working against one of the richest,
most powerful lobbying organizations in the world. It took *years* for
the word to get through their smoke screen (so to speak).

Also, do you smoke? Is it possible that you are attempting to
rationalize your habit?


Of course not.

The blamers miss one very important fact:

If smoking _caused_ cancer, not only would there be no smoker
who ever escaped, but there would be no non-smoker who ever
got cancer.

And that simply is not true.

I guess what you are trying to say is that it doesn't cause, but simply
affects the chances of getting cancer. I'll buy that. That would be
consistent with the statistical studies that suggest there is a
correlation between smoking and getting cancer.

But they've never let the truth get in the way of their agenda.

Whose agenda is this? Seems like the big tobacco companies have more of
a motive to lie than the CDC.

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Terry Given wrote:

Clarence wrote:

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R. Steve Walz wrote:

[snip]


Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with

your

own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.

Welcome to the club.



I didn't reply because it got too personal.
There was the arrogance of my stepfather
facing me with the same line, "I have the right"

Understandable. RSW seems to fly right off the handle at the slightest
provocation.
----------------------

Really. So you imagine you know all from my carefully crafted textual
responses, eh? How ignorant.


? Didja see his assertion that one slap from his father would

have turned him into a homicidal maniac? ROTFLMAO!
-------------------------------

It is my belief. We are determined by our experiences.

Better to avoid such people than Kill them!
Obviously I left home and Joined the Army,
where they taught me to kill with my bare hands.
That sure taught me to control my temper!

I learned a few nasty tricks from a decade or two of martial arts. So
far it has been incredibly useful, in that I am quietly confident
(learning to keep my mouth shut when someone pisses me off has been a
factor too). Nobody has ever picked on me in a social setting (6'2" 90kg
helps), and I have only been "mugged" twice - once in Westwood MA, on
christmas eve, when the pair of muggers (armed with 2x4's) just left
after I asked them nicely (I was smiling, quite a bit bigger than either
of them, and obviously more than willing to take them both on. I think
it showed), and once in Palmerston North when a guy demanded my wallet
as I walked down an alley. A single blow to the chin took care of him
(he was leaning against a concrete block wall), without breaking stride.
His 3-4 mates decided against having a go (I think the kiai helped a
great deal).

one of my favourite phrases is "walk softly and carry a big stick"

Cheers
Terry
---------------

Blowhards fail to impress. Nothing sounds more like you don't know
your ass from a hole in the ground than discussions of supposed
martial arts prowess.

It disgusts those those with actual training.
-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:03:21 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

That's not what's stopping them. What is stopping them is that they
wouldn't be able to get the oil for many years.

Notwithstanding the evil of mass murder on such an incomprehensible
scale.

The oil is away from population centers, no problem.


And I must admit, it's not inconceivable that the people waging
the "war" are trying to minimize collateral damage.

Are they evil, or just participating in somebody's karma?

;^j
Rich
------------

Those two things are the same. We have languished in every war that
we did not finally become grimly mercilous in prosecuting. Dresden,
Hiroshima/Nagasaki, those were turning points, we stoppped apologizing
for collateral damage and INTENDED to kill civilians, which is where
a nation's power resides. We feel shamefaced later, perhaps, but it
takes that to win decisively, or a mere cessation results, and not
a victory. The army that controls all news and kills barbarically
always wins. Anything less wastes our soldiers' lives on half-hearted
efforts taking and re-taking the same ground. The army that obliterates
any resistive city, faction or region to make a horrific example of
them, is the one who has no more such trouble after they have made
their "will to win" QUITE clear to their enemy, even if they must kill
EVERY ENEMY CIVILIAN! An enemy will resist until they are certain they
will be killed to the last baby if they do not surrender!

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:52:59 +0000, Bob Stephens wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:43:10 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

If smoking _caused_ cancer, not only would there be no smoker
who ever escaped, but there would be no non-smoker who ever
got cancer.

Talk about fuzzy logic...

Well, isn't that how "cause and effect" works? If A causes B,
then if A, then B.

But religions don't see things that way. They bend logic to whatever
suits their faith.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:27:39 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

No, it's your child's. That teacher should have been beaten to death
by the children. And if you did the same you should have been killed
as well.

Well, you sure do prescribe a lot of death for someone who espouses
non-violence.
-------------------

Me, non-violent? No, I merely aim it at appropriate targets only,
namely EvilDoers!

If two kids on the high-school playgroung get into a fistfight and
one of them turned 18 yesterday, do you have him executed?

Thanks,
Rich
-----------------------

Whoever started it gets imprisoned at labor indefinitely.

Kids are apprised of this, and that they should only fight
BACK to escape the harshness of the law!

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[Terry Given]

R. Steve Walz wrote:

Terry Given wrote:

Clarence wrote:


"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in
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"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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R. Steve Walz wrote:

[snip]



Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with

your


own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.

Welcome to the club.



I didn't reply because it got too personal.
There was the arrogance of my stepfather
facing me with the same line, "I have the right"

Understandable. RSW seems to fly right off the handle at the slightest
provocation.

----------------------
Really. So you imagine you know all from my carefully crafted textual
responses, eh? How ignorant.

guess ya missed the words "seems to"

? Didja see his assertion that one slap from his father would

have turned him into a homicidal maniac? ROTFLMAO!

-------------------------------
It is my belief. We are determined by our experiences.

and genes, and environment (diet, chemical exposure etc. especially
in-utero)

Better to avoid such people than Kill them!
Obviously I left home and Joined the Army,
where they taught me to kill with my bare hands.
That sure taught me to control my temper!

I learned a few nasty tricks from a decade or two of martial arts. So
far it has been incredibly useful, in that I am quietly confident
(learning to keep my mouth shut when someone pisses me off has been a
factor too). Nobody has ever picked on me in a social setting (6'2" 90kg
helps), and I have only been "mugged" twice - once in Westwood MA, on
christmas eve, when the pair of muggers (armed with 2x4's) just left
after I asked them nicely (I was smiling, quite a bit bigger than either
of them, and obviously more than willing to take them both on. I think
it showed), and once in Palmerston North when a guy demanded my wallet
as I walked down an alley. A single blow to the chin took care of him
(he was leaning against a concrete block wall), without breaking stride.
His 3-4 mates decided against having a go (I think the kiai helped a
great deal).

one of my favourite phrases is "walk softly and carry a big stick"

taken from an early 1990s ad for GSXR1100

Cheers
Terry

---------------
Blowhards fail to impress. Nothing sounds more like you don't know
your ass from a hole in the ground than discussions of supposed
martial arts prowess.

It disgusts those those with actual training.
-Steve

If I was gonna "blowhard" it would have been 6 guys with knives
rather than one fuckwit with a sore head. Other than that guy I have
never needed to hit anyone (not for the last 20 years anyway).

I guess I better not mention the time I leaped into a partially flooded
ditch and rescued a woman trapped in her upside down car (she flipped it
into the ditch as I was coming the other way), lest that disgust you too.

And I imagine the time I stopped at a gas station and ended up repairing
a girls alternator (an hour in the dark and pissing rain) because she
had broken down would likewise offend you.

What flavour training have you had Steve?

Cheers
Terry

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Greg Pierce wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:23:45 +0000, the highly esteemed R. Steve Walz
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

In <418B3FEF.17CF@armory.com>, on 11/05/04 at 08:48 AM,
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> said:
--------------
Nazi's are Rightists, like Republicans, YOU go read history!

You come flying in here this AM with twenty posts spouting all kinds
of misinformation and that is okay.
-----------------
Nope, bullshit, I'm informing, YOU'RE disinforming.

You aren't informing anyone of anything, other than you know how to
swear a lot, and make childish comments.
----------------------
You're disinforming again.


You will never live long enough to put forth a rational argument that
Republicans are like Nazis.
-------------------------
I've lived to age 55, are you going to kill me now, you little faggoty
ponce?? And by the way, the well-recognized connect between Nazi's and
Rightists predates my whole life, you idiot.

Hmm, well, lessee. The Nazi party was also known as the National
*Socialist* Party. Stalin was a Communist, but that didn't stop him from
killing 30 million of his people. Then there is China, that Communist
bastion of human rights </sarcasm>.
--------------------------------

ALl Feudal Rightists running slave-labor States.
All you have to do to see if some nation that CALLS itself "socialist"
or "communist" really is, is to follow the money. If there are large
rich classes that the State funnels money to for no work, then this
is a Rightist Feudalism, and what it is CALLED is merely propaganda!
Russia called itself "communist" because of the immense popularity of
tthe rural illiterate-based movement of Lenin, but when the farmers
had to go home to plant, a few months after the October "Revolution",
the same apparatchicks who had run the State for the Tsars took over
just withouta Tsar, and they took the money themse;ves and banked it
offshore for 55 years, till they cashed in when the USSR collapsed and
they now rule with Putin and the Russian Mafia, the same bunch that
ran the Politburo. The word "Socialist" was used by the Hitler because
it was a popular pop-culture word in Europe at the time, and could make
adolescent youth blindly interested, but there was no socialism in a
truckload of the Nazi party. A lot like the little red wagon was called
a "Radio-Flyer" even though it had no radio and didn't fly. They were
pop buzzwaords at the time, that's all.

Having seen your posts, Walz, I have long since come to the conclusion
that you aren't a "tolerant, open-minded" individual, and given a chance
*you* would commit genocide to achieve your version of an "ideal"
communist society.
Greg
-----------------------------

Killing political enemies is not genocide.

But no, I don't want the job,
I just want to watch it on TV and giggle.

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
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[Mark Fergerson]

Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> schreef in bericht
news:BhTid.45540$G15.43971@fed1read03...

Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> schreef in bericht
news:hAQid.45384$G15.6541@fed1read03...

Where does some fucking jumped-up wannabe prophet get off
blaming _me_ for a local warlord's inability to
convince the
locals to build a society instead of continuing
centuries of
idiotic Hatfield/McCoyism? Fucking braindead asshole
Arafat
does _not_ deserve to die peacefully in his sleep.

Arafat has won a Nobel Prize for Peace. Would you care to
explain? It's not a prize you win for sitting around the
table just once.

No, he was awarded that for not blowing up Stockholm.

Exactly _what_ has Arafat done to stop all the killing?
Nothing.

Exactly what has Isreal done?

Tried to selectively kill the most bloodthirsty of the
"Palestinian" leaders, tried to build walls to keep the
bombers out, and so on, none of which works because the two
sides have two entirely different objectives.

The Israelis want the "Palestinians" to stop trying to
kill all of them and build something resembling a society,
but the "Palestinians" are solely interested in
exterminating the Israelis.

Now stop and think for a minute; do you really believe
that the hands-down winners of the Six-Day War couldn't have
exterminated the "Palestinians" if they had wanted to at any
time, at will? Of course they could, but they haven't. They
have plenty of justification (in local terms), yet they've
held back. Why do you think that might be?

Deaths since september 2000, look here:

http://www.geocities.com/tents444/counters.htm#bann

974 Isrealis, 3426 Palestines.

Who is killing who?

Who gives a fuck? The "Palestinians" cannot build a
society anyway.

Who gives a fuck??? What kind of an answer is that?

The only kind that makes any sense when considering
suicidal fools that are uninterested in building a society.

If
Isreal keeps on killing 3+ palestines for each israeli,
the tragedies will never end.

Eventually there will be no "Palestinians" left who want
to exterminate the Israelis.

Calling that a "tragedy" depends on your point of view.
Personally, I think the real tragedy is that the rank and
file "Palestinians" are following bloodthirsty fools who are
"leading them to victory" with no consideration of survival
either short or long term. That is, the survival of anyone
except their own precious asses. Ask yourself why that
goatlipped old bastard is still (allegedly) breathing
instead of having "righteously" strapped a bomb to himself
long ago as he exhorts others to do. Because he's a
hypocritical coward, that's why.

If you choose to claim that Israel couldn't
either without massive U.S. aid, where were all the
"helpful" Arabs when the "Palestinians" were in need?
Covering their own asses and hoping the Jews would kill all
the "Palestinians", that's where.

I have no idea why the Arabs have not given more financial
aid to the Palestines. Maybe they want to stay neutral,
need to stay neutral. Perhaps someone can shed some light
on this, I don't think your explanation is the correct
one.

Your ignorance of Middle Eastern politics (and world
politics in general) is showing. Learn more instead of
parroting somebody else's bullshit. While you're about it,
learn why the rest of the Arab world refused to give the
"Palestinians" support or refuge in the first place (when
Israel was re-founded). The "Palestinians" were the despised
trash of the Arab world then, and still are. They were
permitted to hold that territory solely because they
couldn't form alliances with any _real_ local powers, and
everyone in the Arab world had equal access to Jerusalem.

Now ask why the Six-Day War didn't turn out any other way.

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Terry Given wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:

Terry Given wrote:

Clarence wrote:


"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in
message news:10os8oum8f1mh0a@corp.supernews.com...


"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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R. Steve Walz wrote:

[snip]



Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with

your


own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.

Welcome to the club.



I didn't reply because it got too personal.
There was the arrogance of my stepfather
facing me with the same line, "I have the right"

Understandable. RSW seems to fly right off the handle at the slightest
provocation.

----------------------
Really. So you imagine you know all from my carefully crafted textual
responses, eh? How ignorant.

guess ya missed the words "seems to"



? Didja see his assertion that one slap from his father would

have turned him into a homicidal maniac? ROTFLMAO!

-------------------------------
It is my belief. We are determined by our experiences.


and genes, and environment (diet, chemical exposure etc. especially
in-utero)



Better to avoid such people than Kill them!
Obviously I left home and Joined the Army,
where they taught me to kill with my bare hands.
That sure taught me to control my temper!

I learned a few nasty tricks from a decade or two of martial arts. So
far it has been incredibly useful, in that I am quietly confident
(learning to keep my mouth shut when someone pisses me off has been a
factor too). Nobody has ever picked on me in a social setting (6'2" 90kg
helps), and I have only been "mugged" twice - once in Westwood MA, on
christmas eve, when the pair of muggers (armed with 2x4's) just left
after I asked them nicely (I was smiling, quite a bit bigger than either
of them, and obviously more than willing to take them both on. I think
it showed), and once in Palmerston North when a guy demanded my wallet
as I walked down an alley. A single blow to the chin took care of him
(he was leaning against a concrete block wall), without breaking stride.
His 3-4 mates decided against having a go (I think the kiai helped a
great deal).

one of my favourite phrases is "walk softly and carry a big stick"

taken from an early 1990s ad for GSXR1100


Cheers
Terry

---------------
Blowhards fail to impress. Nothing sounds more like you don't know
your ass from a hole in the ground than discussions of supposed
martial arts prowess.

It disgusts those those with actual training.
-Steve

If I was gonna "blowhard" it would have been 6 guys with knives
rather than one fuckwit with a sore head. Other than that guy I have
never needed to hit anyone (not for the last 20 years anyway).

I guess I better not mention the time I leaped into a partially flooded
ditch and rescued a woman trapped in her upside down car (she flipped it
into the ditch as I was coming the other way), lest that disgust you too.

And I imagine the time I stopped at a gas station and ended up repairing
a girls alternator (an hour in the dark and pissing rain) because she
had broken down would likewise offend you.

What flavour training have you had Steve?

Cheers
Terry
----------------

I'm not a blowhard braggart.

-Steve
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[R. Steve Walz]

Tom MacIntyre wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:00:04 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com
wrote:

The ratio of foxes to sheep is quite small. Soma = TV
------------------------------------
Actually, everyone above the lowest-paid 50% is abusing the people
beneath them. They need to be frightened out of it by Majority Terror.


Aren't you in that category? I probably am at present, and income is
not nearly as skewed in Canada as it is in the US..

Tom
----------------------

I do indeed make more than the average, which means I'm militating
for my own wage to be corrected downward.

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[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:23:35 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:03:21 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

That's not what's stopping them. What is stopping them is that they
wouldn't be able to get the oil for many years.

Notwithstanding the evil of mass murder on such an incomprehensible
scale.

The oil is away from population centers, no problem.


And I must admit, it's not inconceivable that the people waging
the "war" are trying to minimize collateral damage.

Are they evil, or just participating in somebody's karma?

;^j
Rich
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Those two things are the same. We have languished in every war that
we did not finally become grimly mercilous in prosecuting. Dresden,
Hiroshima/Nagasaki, those were turning points, we stoppped apologizing
for collateral damage and INTENDED to kill civilians, which is where
a nation's power resides.

This is extremely sick.

At least in those instances, the US didn't _start_ the bloody thing.

May God have mercy on your soul.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:50:40 +1300, Terry Given wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:

Terry Given wrote:

Clarence wrote:


"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in
message news:10os8oum8f1mh0a@corp.supernews.com...


"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:rvnjd.4708$op3.178679@news.xtra.co.nz...


R. Steve Walz wrote:

[snip]



Having read your posts on this thread, I am inclined to agree with

your


own character assessment - you are dangerously unstable.

Welcome to the club.



I didn't reply because it got too personal.
There was the arrogance of my stepfather
facing me with the same line, "I have the right"

Understandable. RSW seems to fly right off the handle at the slightest
provocation.

----------------------
Really. So you imagine you know all from my carefully crafted textual
responses, eh? How ignorant.

guess ya missed the words "seems to"



? Didja see his assertion that one slap from his father would

have turned him into a homicidal maniac? ROTFLMAO!

-------------------------------
It is my belief. We are determined by our experiences.


and genes, and environment (diet, chemical exposure etc. especially
in-utero)

And don't forget us second-hand smokers! We kill a billiogajillion
people an hour!

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:50:40 +1300, Terry Given wrote:

And I imagine the time I stopped at a gas station and ended up repairing
a girls alternator (an hour in the dark and pissing rain) because she
had broken down would likewise offend you.

Ah, heck, that's nothin'! I once stopped at a stalled car on the freeway
and pushed it out of the traffic lane with my bare hands, un-jamming
hundreds, maybe thousands of cars!

It felt good! :-D

(southern California, LA area - I-10 near the I-5 interchange)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:38:14 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:27:39 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

No, it's your child's. That teacher should have been beaten to death
by the children. And if you did the same you should have been killed
as well.

Well, you sure do prescribe a lot of death for someone who espouses
non-violence.
-------------------
Me, non-violent? No, I merely aim it at appropriate targets only,
namely EvilDoers!


If two kids on the high-school playgroung get into a fistfight and
one of them turned 18 yesterday, do you have him executed?

Thanks,
Rich
-----------------------
Whoever started it gets imprisoned at labor indefinitely.

Kids are apprised of this, and that they should only fight
BACK to escape the harshness of the law!

What if that's exactly what the 18-year old was doing? The

17-11/12-year-old has 3 inches and 60 pounds on him, and
started the fight with a sucker punch.

Now, what's the sentence?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:00:49 GMT, the renowned "R. Steve Walz"
<rstevew@armory.com> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:05:34 -0800, the renowned Tim Wescott
tim@wescottnospamdesign.com> wrote:


Corporal punishment, applied in a consistent and loving manner, is not
IMO physical abuse. _Any_ discipline that's applied in a way that a
child can't predict, that's too severe, or that doesn't give the kid
room to grow, will screw the kid up -- possibly for life (but I'm not so
ready to believe that it'll pop out as psychosis).

So unless the spanking that you're referring to leaves permanent flat
spots on their behinds its just discipline, not abuse.

Cultures where spanking is rare produce kids that are no less screwed
up, IMHO.
Spehro Pefhany
----------------
And so your "humble opinion" makes your "guess" true??

No, just observation and interpretation. I have not made a formal
study of it, like most parents, I'm an amateur.

That's nonsense, the societies that don't hit have MUCH lower
rates of crime and violence!

-Steve

Do you know the things they whisper into kids ears in Asian cultures
to discipline them?


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[R. Steve Walz]

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:38:14 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich The Philosophizer wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:27:39 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

No, it's your child's. That teacher should have been beaten to death
by the children. And if you did the same you should have been killed
as well.

Well, you sure do prescribe a lot of death for someone who espouses
non-violence.
-------------------
Me, non-violent? No, I merely aim it at appropriate targets only,
namely EvilDoers!


If two kids on the high-school playgroung get into a fistfight and
one of them turned 18 yesterday, do you have him executed?

Thanks,
Rich
-----------------------
Whoever started it gets imprisoned at labor indefinitely.

Kids are apprised of this, and that they should only fight
BACK to escape the harshness of the law!

What if that's exactly what the 18-year old was doing? The
17-11/12-year-old has 3 inches and 60 pounds on him, and
started the fight with a sucker punch.

Now, what's the sentence?

Thanks,
Rich
--------------

Even if he;s 12, first one who hits goes to prison at labor.
We don't need these loose nuts around unchained.

Put him to work, let him have some fun in his off time,
but chained, with a keeper. Or cripple him and give
him sit-down work.

-Steve
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