EAGLE Netlist conversion

Jim Thompson · Jan 9, 2014

On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 17:24:04 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:47:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

High Side Driver...

http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HighSideDriver.pdf

...Jim Thompson

0.5*L*I^2 = Qg*Vg (Qg = Total Gate Charge, from data sheet, at
gate voltage, Vg)

[neglecting losses in diode and resistor, I'll include that RSN,
otherwise someone will have another hissy fit :]

Not "L = R^2 * C"

"Close to it" (pretty close actually) would be...

0.5*L*I^2 = 0.5*C*V^2

It's all about energy transfer from magnetic storage to capacitive
storage... and boost converters rely on it.

...Jim Thompson

John Larkin · Jan 9, 2014

On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 17:24:04 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:47:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

High Side Driver...

http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HighSideDriver.pdf

...Jim Thompson

0.5*L*I^2 = Qg*Vg (Qg = Total Gate Charge, from data sheet, at
gate voltage, Vg)

Not "L = R^2 * C"

"Close to it" (pretty close actually) would be...

0.5*L*I^2 = 0.5*C*V^2

Good grief! Do the algebra!

--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Ralph Barone · Jan 9, 2014

Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

It's amazing...

How many times Larkin accuses others of not being able to calculate
results when, IN FACT, it's Larkin (President of Highland Technology
Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com)
who can't do the calculation. (Just check his posts and try to find a
"calculation" that actually works

Sad, really sad >:-}

...Jim Thompson

Can you just schedule the Thompson/Larkin cage match (two go in - only one
comes out) and then just give it a rest?

ehsjr · Jan 9, 2014

On 1/8/2014 9:17 AM, amdx wrote:

On 1/7/2014 6:46 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

amdx wrote:

On 1/7/2014 10:47 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
High Side Driver...

http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HighSideDriver.pdf

...Jim Thompson

I have a problem with Jim's pages, the lines are to thin to see,
I suspect my reader, and will try adobe. How do I pull up associations?
I've done it a dozen times but can't figure it out now.
The reader I use is Foxit (I think, I find no identifying info)

Right click on the file and choose: 'Open With', then select 'Choose
Program'. It will tell you what the default program is, and let you
change it.

Thanks, I had to save it before I could right click.
I looks much better using Adobe than it does Foxit Reader.
Anyone else have a problem seeing the lines...
hmm, now after saving the file and opening it with Foxit,
the schematic looks better with Foxit than Adobe.
Any time I want to view Jim's schematics, I'll save it first.
I think that was the solution.
Mikek

Thank You! I had the same problem. After reading your
post, I saved it then opened it. Bingo! Now it's
readable.

Ed

Helmut Wabnig · Jan 9, 2014

On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:05:41 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

It's amazing...

How many times Larkin accuses others of not being able to calculate
results when, IN FACT, it's Larkin (President of Highland Technology
Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com)
who can't do the calculation. (Just check his posts and try to find a
"calculation" that actually works

Sad, really sad >:-}

...Jim Thompson

If he (whoever) is the president of (something),
he has proven that he can do calculations, at least financial ones.

w.

Jim Thompson · Jan 10, 2014

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:08:15 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 07:41:07 +0100, Helmut Wabnig<hwabnig@.- ---
-.dotat> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:05:41 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

It's amazing...

How many times Larkin accuses others of not being able to calculate
results when, IN FACT, it's Larkin (President of Highland Technology
Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com)
who can't do the calculation. (Just check his posts and try to find a
"calculation" that actually works

Sad, really sad>:-}

...Jim Thompson
If he (whoever) is the president of (something),
he has proven that he can do calculations, at least financial ones.

w.

Analog Innovations, Inc, is my company (I own it) and it is
incorporated.

...Jim Thompson
It better be incorporated, "Inc" stands for "incorporated"; anything
else would be false advertizing and subject to State investigational
consequences (which is decidedly NOT-linear and NOT computational).

RosemontCrest · Jan 21, 2014

On 1/20/2014 12:46 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

RobertMacy wrote:

I know there's a woodworking group, but don't know its name

news:rec.crafts.woodworking

Also: rec.woodworking

Jim Thompson · Mar 24, 2014

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:23 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/22/2014 3:02 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

I see the price as $159. Model # RK9003, 37 in clamp

Is that the sale price?

For those that can wait, Amazon has it at $130, with free shipping.

Just to confuse things,
There is a Model # RK 9002 49in clamp $204
and a Model # RK 9000 $167 Incorporates a wheel
Model # RK 9109 Plywood Jaw Accessory Attachment Extends to 52 inches. $79
Mikek

amdx · Mar 24, 2014

On 3/23/2014 5:11 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:23 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/22/2014 3:02 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

I see the price as $159. Model # RK9003, 37 in clamp

Is that the sale price?

For those that can wait, Amazon has it at $130, with free shipping.

Just to confuse things,
There is a Model # RK 9002 49in clamp $204
and a Model # RK 9000 $167 Incorporates a wheel
Model # RK 9109 Plywood Jaw Accessory Attachment Extends to 52 inches. $79
Mikek

$79.50 at Lowe's...

http://tinyurl.com/n5t5zhr

Your "Just to confuse things" are the larger versions... some can
handle a sheet of plywood or drywall.

...Jim Thompson

Oh! the link keeps coming up $159, no sale price.
Such a deal, I'll check my local store for that price.
Thanks, Mikek

Jim Thompson · Mar 24, 2014

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:34:07 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2014 5:11 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:23 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/22/2014 3:02 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

I see the price as $159. Model # RK9003, 37 in clamp

Is that the sale price?

For those that can wait, Amazon has it at $130, with free shipping.

Just to confuse things,
There is a Model # RK 9002 49in clamp $204
and a Model # RK 9000 $167 Incorporates a wheel
Model # RK 9109 Plywood Jaw Accessory Attachment Extends to 52 inches. $79
Mikek

$79.50 at Lowe's...

http://tinyurl.com/n5t5zhr

Your "Just to confuse things" are the larger versions... some can
handle a sheet of plywood or drywall.

...Jim Thompson

Oh! the link keeps coming up $159, no sale price.
Such a deal, I'll check my local store for that price.
Thanks, Mikek

Dave M · Mar 24, 2014

RosemontCrest wrote:

On 3/23/2014 1:27 PM, Dave M wrote:
Here's a different brand;

Where exactly is "here?"

appears to be identical functionality, size and
specs for $79.99 + $5.00 shipping (today only).

Dave M

Dave, it appears that prefacing your reply with "--" puts your reply
in the signature section as seen on some newsreaders (I'm using
T-bird).

Oops!!
I had the link in the clipboard, but guess I hit Send before I remembered to
paste it into the message.

Here it is:

http://tools.woot.com/?ref=cnt_sb_tg_3

Dave M

Jim Thompson · Mar 24, 2014

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:16:01 -0500, "Dave M"
<dgminala4444@mediacombb.net> wrote:

RosemontCrest wrote:
On 3/23/2014 1:27 PM, Dave M wrote:
Here's a different brand;

Where exactly is "here?"

appears to be identical functionality, size and
specs for $79.99 + $5.00 shipping (today only).

Dave M

Dave, it appears that prefacing your reply with "--" puts your reply
in the signature section as seen on some newsreaders (I'm using
T-bird).

Oops!!
I had the link in the clipboard, but guess I hit Send before I remembered to
paste it into the message.

Here it is:

http://tools.woot.com/?ref=cnt_sb_tg_3

Dave M

amdx · Mar 24, 2014

On 3/23/2014 5:55 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:34:07 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2014 5:11 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:23 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/22/2014 3:02 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

I see the price as $159. Model # RK9003, 37 in clamp

Is that the sale price?

For those that can wait, Amazon has it at $130, with free shipping.

Just to confuse things,
There is a Model # RK 9002 49in clamp $204
and a Model # RK 9000 $167 Incorporates a wheel
Model # RK 9109 Plywood Jaw Accessory Attachment Extends to 52 inches. $79
Mikek

$79.50 at Lowe's...

http://tinyurl.com/n5t5zhr

Your "Just to confuse things" are the larger versions... some can
handle a sheet of plywood or drywall.

...Jim Thompson

Oh! the link keeps coming up $159, no sale price.
Such a deal, I'll check my local store for that price.
Thanks, Mikek

Maybe it's store-specific... my page does say, "Your store: Gilbert,
AZ"

...Jim Thompson

It may be, I went to my local store and they had a shelf marked
clearance $79.50, but no stock. They checked the computer and another
store about 8 miles away had four. So I drove out there, that store had
it marked $159, after a little, see the store manager, call the other
store verify $79.50, ok with store manager, tell cashier about special
price, I got one for $79.50.

Thanks, Jim.
My wife was so happy I saved $80, that she didn't notice I spent $80.

Mikek

Jim Thompson · Mar 24, 2014

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:38:52 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2014 5:55 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:34:07 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2014 5:11 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:23 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/22/2014 3:02 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

I see the price as $159. Model # RK9003, 37 in clamp

Is that the sale price?

For those that can wait, Amazon has it at $130, with free shipping.

Just to confuse things,
There is a Model # RK 9002 49in clamp $204
and a Model # RK 9000 $167 Incorporates a wheel
Model # RK 9109 Plywood Jaw Accessory Attachment Extends to 52 inches. $79
Mikek

$79.50 at Lowe's...

http://tinyurl.com/n5t5zhr

Your "Just to confuse things" are the larger versions... some can
handle a sheet of plywood or drywall.

...Jim Thompson

Oh! the link keeps coming up $159, no sale price.
Such a deal, I'll check my local store for that price.
Thanks, Mikek

Maybe it's store-specific... my page does say, "Your store: Gilbert,
AZ"

...Jim Thompson

It may be, I went to my local store and they had a shelf marked
clearance $79.50, but no stock. They checked the computer and another
store about 8 miles away had four. So I drove out there, that store had
it marked $159, after a little, see the store manager, call the other
store verify $79.50, ok with store manager, tell cashier about special
price, I got one for $79.50. Thanks, Jim.
My wife was so happy I saved $80, that she didn't notice I spent $80.

Mikek

So the question is, WHO got conned ?:-} Doesn't your wife buy like
that all the time ?

amdx · Mar 24, 2014

On 3/23/2014 8:50 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:38:52 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2014 5:55 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:34:07 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/23/2014 5:11 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:04:23 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/22/2014 3:02 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

I see the price as $159. Model # RK9003, 37 in clamp

Is that the sale price?

For those that can wait, Amazon has it at $130, with free shipping.

Just to confuse things,
There is a Model # RK 9002 49in clamp $204
and a Model # RK 9000 $167 Incorporates a wheel
Model # RK 9109 Plywood Jaw Accessory Attachment Extends to 52 inches. $79
Mikek

$79.50 at Lowe's...

http://tinyurl.com/n5t5zhr

Your "Just to confuse things" are the larger versions... some can
handle a sheet of plywood or drywall.

...Jim Thompson

Oh! the link keeps coming up $159, no sale price.
Such a deal, I'll check my local store for that price.
Thanks, Mikek

Maybe it's store-specific... my page does say, "Your store: Gilbert,
AZ"

...Jim Thompson

It may be, I went to my local store and they had a shelf marked
clearance $79.50, but no stock. They checked the computer and another
store about 8 miles away had four. So I drove out there, that store had
it marked $159, after a little, see the store manager, call the other
store verify $79.50, ok with store manager, tell cashier about special
price, I got one for $79.50. Thanks, Jim.
My wife was so happy I saved $80, that she didn't notice I spent $80.

Mikek

So the question is, WHO got conned ?:-} Doesn't your wife buy like
that all the time ?

How did you know? She is a sale/coupon hound. I'm glad we don't have
more room, she would buy more stuff on sale and fill it. We have a few
items I think were bought only because they were on sale, but over all,
I know she has saved 10s of thousands of dollars.

> You'll just love the jawhorse, it's so easy to use.

Ya, my usual cutting spot is sticking out the door of my shed, the floor
is 12" to 14" of the ground so it gives some clearance. But I'm looking
forward to the Jawhorse holding my piece firm and by up where I'm standing.
One of these days I'm going to replace my 30 year old skill saw, it
works fine but from day one it has had a vibration. I didn't realize it
until my dad used it and complained. Now I notice it every time I use it.
Mikek

Jeff Liebermann · Mar 24, 2014

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 22:09:58 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

One of these days I'm going to replace my 30 year old skill saw, it
works fine but from day one it has had a vibration. I didn't realize it
until my dad used it and complained. Now I notice it every time I use it.
Mikek

Skil Model 77 perhaps? Fix or rebuild it, don't replace it. I've
fixed about five of them. They're quite easy.

There should not be much vibration. On which axis does it vibrate?
Blade or motor? My guess(tm) is:
1. The motor armature shaft is slightly bent causing the vibration,
2. The armature wasn't properly balanced.
3. Defective bearing(s) at the motor end of the armature.
4. The threaded connection between the armature and the worm gear
might be loose and wobbling.

May as well also replace the electrical parts, which tend to wear or
break:
<http://store.eurtonelectric.com/skilwormdrivesawrebuildkit77-kit1994.aspx>
If you're going to be doing a rebuild, there are plenty of other parts
that can be commonly found and easily replaced.
<http://www.ereplacementparts.com/skil-hd77-type-worm-drive-saw-parts-parts-c-130_160_1005.html>
Be sure to identify the exact model as there are several variations.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jim Thompson · Mar 31, 2014

On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 20:42:54 +1000, "David Eather" <eather@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 06:02:10 +1000, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

Went into Lowe's today to get a work light and spotted this...

http://tinyurl.com/kuefcwy

Half price... I paid full price ~3 years ago :-(

One of the most useful devices I've ever bought.

...Jim Thompson

On the bright side, for half the cost of that unit, you've already had 3
years of service.

I don't regret the purchase. Like I said, one of the most useful
devices I ever purchased. Second would be T-Jak...

<http://tinyurl.com/mn84pdt>

And, I didn't realize it had been so long, but Amazon reports that I
bought the T-Jak on July 5, 2005!

...Jim Thompson
--
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John Larkin · Apr 1, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:08:47 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 06:53:41 -0700, RobertMacy
robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:12:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

...snip...

Nope. You missed it. As usual >:-}

...Jim Thompson

Just curious. How often has simulation revealed something, you didn't
already know, or suspect?

Not very often. Occasionally it reveals a latch-up/lock-up I didn't
anticipate. And virtually _all_ CMOS OpAmps require simulation to get
the loopgain compensation correct... the Level=3 school boy equations
(the only ones hand-tractable) don't even do a good job at gain
prediction.

Reason for my question, when I first started Engineering, my mentor looked
over my shoulder at my several pages of equations and laughed
uproariously. He said, you'll get lost in all those equations. Instead use
these simple models, then when you know what you have, verify with those
lengthy equations. He was right. Thus today, rarely, if ever, does the
simulation do anything but verify.

Yep. That's what I've attempted to convey... design with your head,
then verify via simulation.

The neon bulb modeling exercise was just to prove to myself that I
could create a model for a very abrupt slope change while maintaining
finite derivatives. Otherwise I have no use for a neon bulb...
haven't used one in a circuit for probably 50 years.

Pretty good weaseling, a B+ at least.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Phil Hobbs · Apr 2, 2014

On 04/01/2014 10:01 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 06:53:41 -0700, RobertMacy <robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:12:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

...snip...

Nope. You missed it. As usual >:-}

...Jim Thompson

Just curious. How often has simulation revealed something, you didn't
already know, or suspect?

In his case? Every project. He designs bugs in and simulates them out. Most
programmers work that way, too.

Reason for my question, when I first started Engineering, my mentor looked
over my shoulder at my several pages of equations and laughed
uproariously. He said, you'll get lost in all those equations. Instead use
these simple models, then when you know what you have, verify with those
lengthy equations. He was right. Thus today, rarely, if ever, does the
simulation do anything but verify.

Good point. Jim says he has a 20,000 transistor analog CMOS circuit. It has to
be low standby power, so he's trying to figure out how to use Spice to find
floating nodes.

Why didn't he design it to not have floating nodes? Does he not understand his
own design?

Or someone else designed it, in which case he still doesn't understand it.

Analysis, either mathematical or using a simulator, is a poor replacement for
design and understanding.

I'm a big fan of belt-and-suspenders, though, especially if it doesn't
take any extra effort. Using gmin and split supplies, plus some simple
script to parse the .op or .raw file, could be quite a good use of time.

Nobody's going to place and wire 20000 transistors by hand, so there has
to be some combination of manual and automatic generation. Even using
the greatest care, you could have some bug in your design software,
misnamed nodes or something, and an automated way of finding that with
zero effort would be pretty useful.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

Jim Thompson · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:32:55 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

[snip]

I'm a big fan of belt-and-suspenders, though, especially if it doesn't
take any extra effort. Using gmin and split supplies, plus some simple
script to parse the .op or .raw file, could be quite a good use of time.

Nobody's going to place and wire 20000 transistors by hand,

Place, yes, wire, no... wiring is usually automated (that's part of
what LVS is all about... the netlist describes the connection), then
the layout engineer rubber-bands and re-routes to suit.

Besides the whole 20,000 aren't done at once. I/C layout is by
convention (and ease) done cell-by-cell. These days it is also common
to have at least three metal (wiring) layers, or more.

so there has
to be some combination of manual and automatic generation. Even using
the greatest care, you could have some bug in your design software,
misnamed nodes or something, and an automated way of finding that with
zero effort would be pretty useful.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Misnamed nodes isn't an issue (unless forced, node naming is
automatic). Identifying those that can go wandering off is.

Hopefully I'll find a way to do this without splitting the supplies
(necessary if you use the gmin approach). Splitting the supplies make
me nervous because I keep running into modeling types that want to
call the substrate node 0 (zero), when it should be...

?SUB|[@SUB]|~SUB|0|

which assigns substrate connection to node 0, _only_ if the substrate
node isn't specifically declared.

Searching thru my symbol library to make sure I got that script
correct I noticed that, in PSpice, I have 846 personalized symbols :-[

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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