dvd ripping

On Aug 8, 10:31 pm, "mark krawczuk" <krawc...@adam.com.au> wrote:
border security is crap , i worked with them for 7 months , and the AMOUNT
of stuff customs took home that werent " allowed " into australia, and the
amount of illegal stuff customs officers themselves got thru that no one
else couldnt , you got no idea at all. yeah , they show on tv , " look we
are burning all the illegalstuff" yeah , right , one load out of 100 , and
that sif that load was prohibited customs , and not just refuse.

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On Jul 27, 4:55 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
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Which dvd ripping software does anyone use, and how good is it?

**DVD Fab is excellent.

Caution: Do not use this software for ripping copyright DVDs, as this
would be illegal. It works very well with non-copyright disks. I have
no
idea if it works with copyright disks, as to do so would be illegal.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

So load DVD 43, and that takes care of the encryption, then it's a
simply matter of using "Shrink" or "Nero"

**I don't know DVD 43. I do know Shrink. DVD Fab can copy disks that fail
to
copy with DVD Shrink.

As for being illegal to copy a DVD, Why then do they allow blanks to
be
sold, openly. And recorders, copiers are also readily available, Which
indecently have been cleared by Customs, at the point of importation.

**Those blanks and recorders are for copying non-copyright material. You
will quickly realise this fact, if you try to copy most copyright
material
with such machines. The disks can used in a multitude of machines. The
manufacturers are not responsible for their (mis)use.

Simplified, what your attempting to say is, it's perfectly legal to buy
a
new Bluray recorder, and a supply of blank disc's, but your infringing
the copyright laws if you use the bloody thing.

**No. You're infingining copyright laws, if you copy copyright material.
You
can copy non-copyright material all day long quite legally.

And that's the difference between the normal user and the coping
factory
with a couple of hundred disc writers, and a screen printer,
churning
out thousands of copies of whatever movie you want and sold at a big
discount, down the local pub, or on a market.

I ordered some DVD's the other week via Australian E-bay, the
sellers
address was somewhere in the UK, and the DVD's arrived via Minske,
Belarus. They arrived here quite legally with a Customs clearance,
[green
sticker] and where quite obversely boot-leg copies. But no one
seems
to care, So why should anyone worry about people making there own
copies.

**Sometime, someone will care. You may end up in big trouble. Or not. It
depends on the customs people. I've been dragged down to airport customs.
They wanted me to pay duty. Naturally, the material I was importing
attracted no duty (and they knew damned well that was the case). They
were
simply trying to gather extra revenue. I waited while one consulted his
books and off I toddled, without paying a cent. Nevertheless, it was
inconvenient. One day, it will happen to you too. Only it may not end
happily for you. Copyright infringements are viewed seriously.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

It's definitely illegal to copy copyrighted DVD's, CD's, vinyl
Records, films, photos, Tapes, VHS, books, sheet music etc without
permission from the copyright owner, and regardless of your experience
so far with importing bootleg DVD's, you should be aware of this fact.
As Trevor says, you might get away with these imports most of the
time, but don't count on it, and if you start bringing in commercial
quantities, or regular imports you run a higher risk of attracting
attention. Maybe you need to watch "border security" to see what
people get up to in customs and how they get caught. (of course, we
don't know how many slip through)

You would find that in the real world (probably including customs
staff !) most people do it for their own use, to give to friends, make
a back-up copy etc. I don't think many people in the real world have a
problem with that, considering for a decade illegal downloads of just
about any movie/music/software you can think of seem to be readily
available, and still thriving in spite of all the efforts by the music
industry to stop them. With the economic climate as it is heading, I
would expect illegal copying/sharing to only increase, and for mr. and
mrs. average, not worthwhile to sue for damages, as getting money
from most people who are in debt to their eyeballs already will more
and more become like extracting blood from a stone if push came to
shove.

Eastern Europe (where you got these discs from) isn't particularly
worried about these sort of things, they have other issues to deal
with. When last in Moscow, they openly sold copies of almost
everything you can think of for a few $$. Some were excellent quality
however, and while most on obviously burnt discs, more and more were
starting to appear on genuine looking silver discs.

Burning and selling quantities of the discs at markets or on Ebay /
internet is another matter entirely, would be extremely risky and I
don't think you would evade the law for long. The way this ridiculous
legal system is going, you would probably get a stiffer sentence for a
matter like that than a real crime like bashing someone, or (a real)
robbery.

To get back to the real question asked originally, I dont know what
you would use to copy movie DVD's as so far I haven't had to. I do
recall hearing of people using DVD shrink and AVS video converter for
the purpose however.
that doesnt surprise me at all, the systemic corruption in
governments - while rarely mentioned by the media, is rife across the
entire system. Those who speak out or complain about it are silenced
rather harshly.
 
"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 10:31 pm, "mark krawczuk" <krawc...@adam.com.au> wrote:
border security is crap , i worked with them for 7 months , and the
AMOUNT
of stuff customs took home that werent " allowed " into australia, and
the
amount of illegal stuff customs officers themselves got thru that no
one
else couldnt , you got no idea at all. yeah , they show on tv , " look
we
are burning all the illegalstuff" yeah , right , one load out of 100 ,
and
that sif that load was prohibited customs , and not just refuse.

"kreed" <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:d95b9881-90c3-488e-a6b4-c1e1ec4ecdaa@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 27, 4:55 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
"bassett" <bass...@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message

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"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote in
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www.rageaudio.com.au
"dmm" <dmmilne_REMO...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Which dvd ripping software does anyone use, and how good is it?

**DVD Fab is excellent.

Caution: Do not use this software for ripping copyright DVDs, as
this
would be illegal. It works very well with non-copyright disks. I
have
no
idea if it works with copyright disks, as to do so would be
illegal.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

So load DVD 43, and that takes care of the encryption, then it's a
simply matter of using "Shrink" or "Nero"

**I don't know DVD 43. I do know Shrink. DVD Fab can copy disks that
fail
to
copy with DVD Shrink.

As for being illegal to copy a DVD, Why then do they allow blanks
to
be
sold, openly. And recorders, copiers are also readily available,
Which
indecently have been cleared by Customs, at the point of
importation.

**Those blanks and recorders are for copying non-copyright material.
You
will quickly realise this fact, if you try to copy most copyright
material
with such machines. The disks can used in a multitude of machines. The
manufacturers are not responsible for their (mis)use.

Simplified, what your attempting to say is, it's perfectly legal to
buy
a
new Bluray recorder, and a supply of blank disc's, but your
infringing
the copyright laws if you use the bloody thing.

**No. You're infingining copyright laws, if you copy copyright
material.
You
can copy non-copyright material all day long quite legally.

And that's the difference between the normal user and the coping
factory
with a couple of hundred disc writers, and a screen printer,
churning
out thousands of copies of whatever movie you want and sold at a big
discount, down the local pub, or on a market.

I ordered some DVD's the other week via Australian E-bay, the
sellers
address was somewhere in the UK, and the DVD's arrived via
Minske,
Belarus. They arrived here quite legally with a Customs clearance,
[green
sticker] and where quite obversely boot-leg copies. But no one
seems
to care, So why should anyone worry about people making there own
copies.

**Sometime, someone will care. You may end up in big trouble. Or not.
It
depends on the customs people. I've been dragged down to airport
customs.
They wanted me to pay duty. Naturally, the material I was importing
attracted no duty (and they knew damned well that was the case). They
were
simply trying to gather extra revenue. I waited while one consulted
his
books and off I toddled, without paying a cent. Nevertheless, it was
inconvenient. One day, it will happen to you too. Only it may not end
happily for you. Copyright infringements are viewed seriously.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

It's definitely illegal to copy copyrighted DVD's, CD's, vinyl
Records, films, photos, Tapes, VHS, books, sheet music etc without
permission from the copyright owner, and regardless of your experience
so far with importing bootleg DVD's, you should be aware of this fact.
As Trevor says, you might get away with these imports most of the
time, but don't count on it, and if you start bringing in commercial
quantities, or regular imports you run a higher risk of attracting
attention. Maybe you need to watch "border security" to see what
people get up to in customs and how they get caught. (of course, we
don't know how many slip through)

You would find that in the real world (probably including customs
staff !) most people do it for their own use, to give to friends, make
a back-up copy etc. I don't think many people in the real world have a
problem with that, considering for a decade illegal downloads of just
about any movie/music/software you can think of seem to be readily
available, and still thriving in spite of all the efforts by the music
industry to stop them. With the economic climate as it is heading, I
would expect illegal copying/sharing to only increase, and for mr. and
mrs. average, not worthwhile to sue for damages, as getting money
from most people who are in debt to their eyeballs already will more
and more become like extracting blood from a stone if push came to
shove.

Eastern Europe (where you got these discs from) isn't particularly
worried about these sort of things, they have other issues to deal
with. When last in Moscow, they openly sold copies of almost
everything you can think of for a few $$. Some were excellent quality
however, and while most on obviously burnt discs, more and more were
starting to appear on genuine looking silver discs.

Burning and selling quantities of the discs at markets or on Ebay /
internet is another matter entirely, would be extremely risky and I
don't think you would evade the law for long. The way this ridiculous
legal system is going, you would probably get a stiffer sentence for a
matter like that than a real crime like bashing someone, or (a real)
robbery.

To get back to the real question asked originally, I dont know what
you would use to copy movie DVD's as so far I haven't had to. I do
recall hearing of people using DVD shrink and AVS video converter for
the purpose however.

that doesnt surprise me at all, the systemic corruption in
governments - while rarely mentioned by the media, is rife across the
entire system. Those who speak out or complain about it are silenced
rather harshly.
By the very thieves that want it all to continue.
Obviously they have never had their hard work (intellectual property) stolen
by thieves, so they wouldn't appreciate the loss.
 
yeah , so,,,, your point being ????????????


did he say copy righted dvd`s ??errrr, ummm
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-=Spudley=- wrote:
"dmm" <dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Which dvd ripping software does anyone use, and how good is it?


It would be unlawful to rip DVD's.

Bullshit.

geoff

Bullshit to your Bullshit geoff.
It's quite obvious he wants it for ripping copyright DVD's
 
hi, use dvd shrink, dvd decrypter. and region free.


"dmm" <dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Which dvd ripping software does anyone use, and how good is it?
 
hey retard , copying a dvd and driving intoxicated are two differant
things....

your comparing oranges to apples,
spaz

"Jasen Betts" <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote in message news:g6k3om$p3e$3@gonzo...
On 2008-07-27, bassett <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote:

As for being illegal to copy a DVD, Why then do they allow blanks to be
sold, openly. And recorders, copiers are also readily available, Which
indecently have been cleared by Customs, at the point of importation.

if driving whilst intoxicated is illegal then why do they allow
importation and manufacture of the requisites?

the thing is dvd copiers and blanks are dual-use products, they do
have legitimate uses.

Ammonium nitrate is also a dual-use product, buth those in power are
suffificently scared by it'd sencondary use to control its distribution.

Bye.
Jasen
 
you can copy copyrighted stuff,

do you know for a fact that you cant ? or do you HAVE legal
understanding. ?


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"geoff" <geoff@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote in message
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-=Spudley=- wrote:
As should be the practice of assisting someone in a potentially
illegal activity of copying copyrighted material by supplying them
answers that could allow them to easily do so.

I'm sure that most companies that manufacture copyrighted software
will supply a replacement for damaged DVD's of their product at a
nominal/minimal charge.

Hope you never sell an axe to spomebody then.


Why would I?


Those companies that would allow you to backup a DVD would not
protect the DVD in such a manner as to prevent it from being copied,
thus making DVD copying programs that are designed to circumvent copy
protection un-necessary and not within the scope of the OP's request.


Not the point. And it's not the 'companies' who decide a country's 'fair
use' copyright laws.

So why are the applications allowed to exist, be marketed, and sold ?


So are you saying that because these applications exist, are marketed and
sold, that it condones the copying of copyrighted material and it condones
the advertising of same and the requesting of information pertaining to
same on Forums such as this?

My point from the beginning is, that it is unlawful to copy copyrighted
material.
You said "bullshit", well you are wrong, because it is unlawful to copy
copyrighted material without the permission of the copyright holder.


geoff
 

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