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James Arthur
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John Larkin wrote:
Cheers,
James
Well, I guess you better just keep tickin' then.
Cheers,
James
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Don Klipstein
Guest
In article <gut1v5$grh$1@news.netins.net>, Andrew wrote:
increasing, ocean CO2 is increasing and recently carbon in the land
biomass is going up also, and that fossil fuel burning does a good job of
accounting for this.
http://lgmacweb.env.uea.ac.uk/lequere/co2/carbon_budget.htm
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
You did snip the link showing that atmospheric CO2 is significantly
increasing, ocean CO2 is increasing and recently carbon in the land
biomass is going up also, and that fossil fuel burning does a good job of
accounting for this.
http://lgmacweb.env.uea.ac.uk/lequere/co2/carbon_budget.htm
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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JosephKK
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On Sun, 17 May 2009 03:17:51 -0700, Fred Abse
<excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
<excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
And just what, per se, does that have to do with what i said?
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JosephKK
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:36:57 -0700, D from BC
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
Neither they nor i am all that ignorant, but i offer myself as a least
common denominator of this set, and i am not even Christian. And i do
know how to use the net. And i still have KJV to hand (my own, read
it cover to cover).
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
Why should my friends and i pander to your neuroses.
Neither they nor i am all that ignorant, but i offer myself as a least
common denominator of this set, and i am not even Christian. And i do
know how to use the net. And i still have KJV to hand (my own, read
it cover to cover).
Guest
On Mon, 18 May 2009 19:34:29 -0700, D from BC
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
the swam.
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
God being all powerful and all knowing moved them without effort. AKA
the swam.
J
JosephKK
Guest
On Sat, 16 May 2009 22:19:44 -0700, D from BC
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
exist. Same thing with Jews and other religions. I hope that you
would find discourse with Ptolemy likely to be fascinating as i do.
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
Just 'cause you never knowingly met one does not mean they do notOn Sat, 16 May 2009 18:48:57 -0700,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:
snip
Along the way i have met serious Christians who can clean your clock
in engineering. I strongly suspect that even i can beat you soundly.
These persons cleaned my clock repeatedly. They are a bit rare
though.
(Cut and pasted from 'Any Christian Electronics Designers Here')
Here's 5 ways to be a Christian electronics designer.
1) Ignorant of Christianity
'What? There's talking animals in the bible?'
2) Split personality.
Electronics mode (Dr Jekyll) and Christian mode (Mr Hyde).
3) Lying about being Christian
'I'm a fellow Christian. How about 20% off that oscilloscope?'
4) Fear of not being Christian
And miss out on those Christian women with big hooters?
And miss Christian BBQ's?
5) Crazy and Christian
'Please Jesus...make my transistor work.'
So yeah.. I believe there are Christians that are smarter than me.
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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exist. Same thing with Jews and other religions. I hope that you
would find discourse with Ptolemy likely to be fascinating as i do.
D
D from BC
Guest
On Mon, 18 May 2009 22:59:56 -0600, qrus19@mindspring.com wrote:
they got off Noah's arc
or.... the polar bears swam ~8000km from Turkey to the Artic?
You have evidence for this lunacy?
2)
Noah's arc doesn't exist because the world has no geologic evidence of
suddenly being covered by water.
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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So..you're saying God teleported the polar bears to the Arctic after
they got off Noah's arc
or.... the polar bears swam ~8000km from Turkey to the Artic?
You have evidence for this lunacy?
2)
Noah's arc doesn't exist because the world has no geologic evidence of
suddenly being covered by water.
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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MooseFET
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On May 18, 7:34 pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote:
Kangaroos are a better example. They can't swim very far at all.
Polar bears can swim large distances if needed.
Kangaroos are a better example. They can't swim very far at all.
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Jim Yanik
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"Andrew" <andyvbel@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:gut41e$hdc$1@news.netins.net:
race hadn't occurred.All those jobs never created.
space race. No miniturization,no tiny,practical,useful small electronics.
and those goods would NOT have been available,because there was no pressure
to develop them.
have happened,or happened many years later.
Look at roadways;how many people or companies built their own roads before
gov'ts began making them? Few if any.they just made paths and
trrails,rutted and impassable in bad weather,few people chose to travel
because of that.But when gov't puts in a road,development springs up around
it quickly.
the space race created?
More hyperbole and nonsense.
The same goes for everything the space and military races have brought
about.
Look at other societies,they become stagnant when they don't have the goad
of competition. Particularly the goad of defending your society.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:gut41e$hdc$1@news.netins.net:
there probalby would never have been either of those companies if the space
race hadn't occurred.All those jobs never created.
which had no incentive to develop them w/o the demands of the space race.
all the electronic products developed,that would not have come without the
space race. No miniturization,no tiny,practical,useful small electronics.
IOW,just an ASSumption of yours.an Unfounded ASSumption.
and those goods would NOT have been available,because there was no pressure
to develop them.
Agreed,but gov't DOES encourage investment/development where it may not
have happened,or happened many years later.
Look at roadways;how many people or companies built their own roads before
gov'ts began making them? Few if any.they just made paths and
trrails,rutted and impassable in bad weather,few people chose to travel
because of that.But when gov't puts in a road,development springs up around
it quickly.
Oh? Burning money would be better than all the millions of good paying jobs
the space race created?
More hyperbole and nonsense.
even people who don't directly use public roads benefit by them.
The same goes for everything the space and military races have brought
about.
Look at other societies,they become stagnant when they don't have the goad
of competition. Particularly the goad of defending your society.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
Guest
On Mon, 18 May 2009 22:48:13 -0700, D from BC
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
story line., but can you prove that the all powerful god of these
folks couldn't do this.
There is evidence of huge amounts of flooding in certain parts of the
world, the badlands of the Dakota, and in some minds the grand canyon
are such. presnt science also shows that there was avalley at the
northern end of the persian gulf that flooded about the time the bible
places Noah and his flood. plus somewhere around then they believe the
black sea and Agean broke through and created a flood. Personal take
on this is preists looking for more power But that does not mean it
didn't happen just that I don't actually believe it.
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
Not me then again I'm not a hard core believer in the Judeo Christian
story line., but can you prove that the all powerful god of these
folks couldn't do this.
There is evidence of huge amounts of flooding in certain parts of the
world, the badlands of the Dakota, and in some minds the grand canyon
are such. presnt science also shows that there was avalley at the
northern end of the persian gulf that flooded about the time the bible
places Noah and his flood. plus somewhere around then they believe the
black sea and Agean broke through and created a flood. Personal take
on this is preists looking for more power But that does not mean it
didn't happen just that I don't actually believe it.
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Jim Thompson
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On Mon, 18 May 2009 17:44:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
...Jim Thompson
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Stormy on the East Coast today... due to Bush's failed policies.
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Where did the OP of this thread (John Nagle) go to?
...Jim Thompson
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Stormy on the East Coast today... due to Bush's failed policies.
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Richard the Dreaded Liber
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 02:11:42 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:
Even if it _were_ true, So What?
Thanks,
Rich
The question everyone seems to be steadfastly avoiding is:
Even if it _were_ true, So What?
Thanks,
Rich
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Rich the Philosophizer
Guest
On Mon, 18 May 2009 19:34:29 -0700, D from BC wrote:
there couldn't possibly be any power greater than yourself.
The burden of proof is on you, bucko.
So show me scientific proof that there couldn't possibly be any power
greater than yourself, or shut your pie hole,
Show me that _Your_ dogma is right, and everybody else's dogma is
wrong.
Show me, coward.
Or are you claiming that your detractors have to show proof, while you
just demand that people follow your proclamations, on faith?
Man, if that ain't a religious cult, then I don't know what is.
Good Luck!
Rich
Go fuck yourself. You're the one who made the blanket statement that
there couldn't possibly be any power greater than yourself.
The burden of proof is on you, bucko.
So show me scientific proof that there couldn't possibly be any power
greater than yourself, or shut your pie hole,
Show me that _Your_ dogma is right, and everybody else's dogma is
wrong.
Show me, coward.
Or are you claiming that your detractors have to show proof, while you
just demand that people follow your proclamations, on faith?
Man, if that ain't a religious cult, then I don't know what is.
Good Luck!
Rich
D
D from BC
Guest
On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:30:56 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer
<philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:
3) Noah's arc doesn't exist cause all the animal species couldn't fit
in the arc.
The story of Noah is going down like a sinking ship.
If Noah's arc doesn't exist then that's supporting evidence that
asphyxiaphilicGod doesn't exist.
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design
<philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:
You're not helping Noah's case.
3) Noah's arc doesn't exist cause all the animal species couldn't fit
in the arc.
The story of Noah is going down like a sinking ship.
If Noah's arc doesn't exist then that's supporting evidence that
asphyxiaphilicGod doesn't exist.
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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Andrew
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"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freedom_guy@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2009.05.19.18.40.26.805825@example.net...
http://nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/gtr/gtr_nc241.pdf
....
Growing-stock volume on U.S. timberland increased from 616 to 856 billion
cubic feet (39 percent) between 1953 and 2002
....
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news
an.2009.05.19.18.40.26.805825@example.net...So We Need To Burn More Fuel to increase biomass and feed poor countries.
http://nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/gtr/gtr_nc241.pdf
....
Growing-stock volume on U.S. timberland increased from 616 to 856 billion
cubic feet (39 percent) between 1953 and 2002
....
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Don Klipstein
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In article <guvr19$otm$1@news.netins.net>, Andrew wrote:
of more favorable trees and harvesting them at times of their growth so as
to maximize yield. We also have increased plant agriculture yields in
general from gains in irrigation, fertilizers, pest control, and breeding
and genetic modification for more productive plants.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
In large part for reasons other than increase of CO2, such as planting"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freedom_guy@example.net> wrote in message
news
On Tue, 19 May 2009 02:11:42 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:
You did snip the link showing that atmospheric CO2 is significantly
increasing, ocean CO2 is increasing and recently carbon in the land
biomass is going up also, and that fossil fuel burning does a good job of
accounting for this.
http://lgmacweb.env.uea.ac.uk/lequere/co2/carbon_budget.htm
The question everyone seems to be steadfastly avoiding is:
Even if it _were_ true, So What?
So We Need To Burn More Fuel to increase biomass and feed poor countries.
http://nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/gtr/gtr_nc241.pdf
...
Growing-stock volume on U.S. timberland increased from 616 to 856 billion
cubic feet (39 percent) between 1953 and 2002
of more favorable trees and harvesting them at times of their growth so as
to maximize yield. We also have increased plant agriculture yields in
general from gains in irrigation, fertilizers, pest control, and breeding
and genetic modification for more productive plants.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
X
xray
Guest
On Tue, 19 May 2009 02:11:42 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
Klipstein) wrote:
informative links and patient, studied answers.
Even when baited, you never seem to lapse into hyperbole or
emotionality.
Kudos.
Klipstein) wrote:
Don, you keep responding to these endless CO2 or AGW posts with
informative links and patient, studied answers.
Even when baited, you never seem to lapse into hyperbole or
emotionality.
Kudos.
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JosephKK
Guest
On Mon, 18 May 2009 22:48:13 -0700, D from BC
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
pack (which is floating anyway). No need to move them at all in the
first place.
<myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:
Naw, nothing so dramatic. They just floated around on the arctic ice
pack (which is floating anyway). No need to move them at all in the
first place.
D
D from BC
Guest
On Wed, 20 May 2009 20:57:28 -0700,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:
If the world was flooded by rain, what was the weather in the Arctic?
Rain? Massive snow? Sunny sky?
If there were massive snow, the polar bears might get overwhelmed and
buried and killed by finalsolutionGod.
If that happened, scientists would discover many dead frozen polar
bears packed in snow all at the same depth and with the same
radiometric age.
iows..It's like notsoperfectGod took a sh*t and flushed the
toilet(earth).
Designers often do it right the first time.
You don't see bridges getting blown up a week after completion.
But notsoperfectGod has to start over again from scratch with *help*
from Noah..
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:
lol...
If the world was flooded by rain, what was the weather in the Arctic?
Rain? Massive snow? Sunny sky?
If there were massive snow, the polar bears might get overwhelmed and
buried and killed by finalsolutionGod.
If that happened, scientists would discover many dead frozen polar
bears packed in snow all at the same depth and with the same
radiometric age.
4) Noah's arc doesn't exist because notsoperfectGod goofed up.
iows..It's like notsoperfectGod took a sh*t and flushed the
toilet(earth).
Designers often do it right the first time.
You don't see bridges getting blown up a week after completion.
But notsoperfectGod has to start over again from scratch with *help*
from Noah..
D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design
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stermen
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