Driver to drive?

[ingvald44]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 17 May 2009 10:41:54 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:04:52 -0500, flipper <flipper@fish.net> wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 09:32:01 GMT, James Arthur
bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

flipper wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 19:50:14 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 09 May 2009 21:06:41 -0500, flipper <flipper@fish.net> wrote:


I'll do you even better. Data shows the world has been in a warming
trend since it exited the LIA.

I suppose that's why it's no longer the LIA. You know, cold... ice
age.... warmer... not ice age.
Geez, quit getting technical. I hate it when people get technical.

John

Hehe. Yeah, I've been accused of that before

At the risk of even further technical confusion, AGW proponents often
claim a desire to "save the planet."

Well, if that's what they want then they're working in the wrong
direction because we are currently on the cold, cold, depleted CO2,
side of the planetary life range.

If you look over the past 500 million years, only 1 or 2C lower, and
150 or so ppm less CO2, is associated with large scale gaciation and
mass extinctions with 10C to 12C warmer, and 1600ppm more CO2, being
the periods of flourishing life and maximum bio diversity.

Or, to put it bluntly, we're only 1C to 2C of cooling, and a smidgen
less CO2, away from a planetary catastrophe exceeding even biblical
proportions but we're quite a ways down from being hot enough for the
historical 'life giving' bio diversity planet lovers so often speak
of.

This program suggests--and finds geologic evidence to support--
that a comet hit plunged the earth into a deep freeze, causing
the last great extinction.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/clovis/

"NARRATOR: Thirteen-thousand years ago, the Earth's climate was not
unlike ours today. But then, suddenly, it changed radically. It was
mysteriously thrown back into the Ice Age, and some of the greatest
animals that have ever lived vanished:[...]"
Well, that's a bummer, isn't it?

Hard to believe that one will get much traction, though, because it
can't be blamed on man.

You know we killed them off. You just know it.

Bastards.

Maybe we should start a strategic CO2 reserve, just in case...

Cheers,
James Arthur
I'd kill myself out of sheer guilt if I could be sure my carbon would
be properly sequestered.

Hey, that could be an interesting business, carbon-neutral cremation.

John


Oh darn, it's been done:

http://www.funerals.coop/

http://www.australianwomenonline.com/carbon-neutral-cremations/

John

Better to kill Al Gore, he adds much more carbon than the average Joe.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:36:27 -0700 (PDT), z <gzuckier@snail-mail.net>
wrote:

On May 10, 11:08 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2009 20:59:47 -0500, flipper <flip...@fish.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 19:50:14 -0700, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 09 May 2009 21:06:41 -0500, flipper <flip...@fish.net> wrote:

I'll do you even better. Data shows the world has been in a warming
trend since it exited the LIA.

I suppose that's why it's no longer the LIA. You know, cold... ice
age.... warmer... not ice age.

Geez, quit getting technical. I hate it when people get technical.

John

Hehe. Yeah, I've been accused of that before

At the risk of even further technical confusion, AGW proponents often
claim a desire to "save the planet."

Well, if that's what they want then they're working in the wrong
direction because we are currently on the cold, cold, depleted CO2,
side of the planetary life range.

If you look over the past 500 million years, only 1 or 2C lower, and
150 or so ppm less CO2, is associated with large scale gaciation and
mass extinctions with 10C to 12C warmer, and 1600ppm more CO2, being
the periods of flourishing life and maximum bio diversity.

Or, to put it bluntly, we're only 1C to 2C of cooling, and a smidgen
less CO2, away from a planetary catastrophe exceeding even biblical
proportions but we're quite a ways down from being hot enough for the
historical 'life giving' bio diversity planet lovers so often speak
of.

I have noted here before that the planet is running out of CO2. In
another 50 million years or so, most plant life as we know it will be
unable to survive. We were put here to dig up all that sequestered
carbon and get it back into circulation.

John- Hide quoted text -

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well, that's what I've been saying for years. all these folks who say
that the earth has negative feedback processes that keep the climate
from getting too far out of whack for too long. since the stupid
plants sucked all the CO2 out of the air in the carboniferous era and
the temperature temporarily dropped 10 degrees; so the mechanism to
return the CO2 concentration and the temp to where it was for the
previous several billion years is us. after which we will be retired
as obsolete.

Yeah. Plants are cute, but they're not very bright.

John

 

[z]

On May 10, 11:08 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 May 2009 20:59:47 -0500, flipper <flip...@fish.net> wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 19:50:14 -0700, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 09 May 2009 21:06:41 -0500, flipper <flip...@fish.net> wrote:

I'll do you even better. Data shows the world has been in a warming
trend since it exited the LIA.

I suppose that's why it's no longer the LIA. You know, cold... ice
age.... warmer... not ice age.

Geez, quit getting technical. I hate it when people get technical.

John

Hehe. Yeah, I've been accused of that before

At the risk of even further technical confusion, AGW proponents often
claim a desire to "save the planet."

Well, if that's what they want then they're working in the wrong
direction because we are currently on the cold, cold, depleted CO2,
side of the planetary life range.

If you look over the past 500 million years, only 1 or 2C lower, and
150 or so ppm less CO2, is associated with large scale gaciation and
mass extinctions with 10C to 12C warmer, and 1600ppm more CO2, being
the periods of flourishing life and maximum bio diversity.

Or, to put it bluntly, we're only 1C to 2C of cooling, and a smidgen
less CO2, away from a planetary catastrophe exceeding even biblical
proportions but we're quite a ways down from being hot enough for the
historical 'life giving' bio diversity planet lovers so often speak
of.

I have noted here before that the planet is running out of CO2. In
another 50 million years or so, most plant life as we know it will be
unable to survive. We were put here to dig up all that sequestered
carbon and get it back into circulation.

John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well, that's what I've been saying for years. all these folks who say
that the earth has negative feedback processes that keep the climate
from getting too far out of whack for too long. since the stupid
plants sucked all the CO2 out of the air in the carboniferous era and
the temperature temporarily dropped 10 degrees; so the mechanism to
return the CO2 concentration and the temp to where it was for the
previous several billion years is us. after which we will be retired
as obsolete.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2009-05-12, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:59:49 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2009-05-09, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 18:39:42 +0100, Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Fri, 08 May 2009 18:50:23 -0700, Joel Koltner wrote:

Clearly manuals are the way to go if you want performance or really enjoy the
driving experience itself. For the basic need of getting people from point A
to point B comfortably with as little hassle as possible, it should be no
surprise that automatics are preferred.

Only in America (although automatic transmission seems to be gaining in
popularity in East Asia).

In the UK (and most of Europe), automatic transmission is still quite rare.

Automatics make a lot of sense in hilly landscapes. Hills are hell on
clutches.

automatics transmissions have clutches, dunno how long they last.

hills needn't be bad on the clutch in a manual transmission if you
match match the engine speed before engaging the clutch.

Match the engine speed with what? Zero RPM?

You've got to know your vehicle. Where the clutch engages and what
minimum throttle is required to provide adequate torque (without
scorching the clutch).


I don't think Jason has ever driven a car with a clutch.

You'd be wrong there, I mostly drive manual transmission vehicles.

I've not driven in city traffic on steep hills much so I'd forgotten about all
the hill starts that may be required.

 

[Bill Palmer]

On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:59:06 -0700 Abbey Somebody
<abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> wrote in Message id:
<340s055oqus91bocl81he5luv25me65eog@4ax.com>:

The girls I sleep with end up saying "Don't... stop... Don't....
stop..."

Oh Pu-leeze...

The only piece of ass you ever had was when your finger slipped through
the toilet paper.

 

[Bill Palmer]

On Fri, 15 May 2009 17:33:59 -0700 FatBytestard
<FatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> wrote in Message id:
<ab2s059100fo152kctd44nj2u04r463oqt@4ax.com>:

The name is Kervorkian, dipshit.

Kervorkian? That would be Kevorkian you utter fucking imbecile. He's got
you penned in for Tuesday at 8:30AM. Don't be late, dum-dum.

 

[Bill Palmer]

On Thu, 14 May 2009 16:19:58 -0700 Corbomite Carrie
<Corbomite@maneuver.org> wrote in Message id:
<lm9p05d73ojk05h2i6nnjafjpl4nnmqjb5@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 14 May 2009 08:38:12 -0400, Bill Palmer <Biiil@none.not> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:07 -0700 Corbomite Carrie
Corbomite@maneuver.org> wrote in Message id:
lf1n05tkro2uk0e1qfpn3bupaf8hj7l6i5@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:47:19 -0400, Bill Palmer <Biiil@none.not> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 13:31:58 +0100 Baron
baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in Message id:
gueebl$u3q$1@news.motzarella.org>:

Archimedes' Lever Drooled thus:

[...]

You're an idiot if you think that equates with "some M$ apps
actively
modify and sometimes reject other apps...."

In fact, you are an idiot for that stupid remark... period.

PLONK

What took you so long?


Almost as retarded as announcing one's filter file edit session, is
when another total retard responds to it. You are that retard.

It's too bad the hospital didn't let your mom have a complete abortion,
instead of the obviously less successful partial you're still showing the
effects of. I'll bet the afterbirth had more social skills, at least until
she ate it.


Your pathetic felonious mother should be imprisoned for the heinous
crime of not flushing the piece of shit that you are, the moment she shat
you out of the ass of the piece of shit that she is.

That anyone should dare disagree with you invariably sets your fingers
into motion. One can almost see the sweat forming at your sloped uni-brow
as you concentrate on a (not-so) clever scatological expression, or yet
another lame, tedious variation on how retarded someone is. Fuck you're
one boring git.

There ARE some in this forum who display genuine humor and talent. You
are not one of them, and never will be. Cliche'd scatological utterances
incompetently co-opted from the average junior high cut-down session
aren't a substitute for creativity. The muse of wit was CLEARLY on a piss
break during whatever slobbering, drunken date rape that resulted in your
misshapen creation.

I'll bet if someone was to hunt you down in real life and begin a campaign
of harassment and nastiness, just about everyone that has come across you
(no pun intended - haha!!) on Usenet would *celebrate* every detail of the
crusade. Every report would be framed, matted, given a price tag, and sold
to the highest bidder.

Yep. And wouldn't THAT be sweet.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 18 May 2009 06:09:46 -0400, Bill Palmer <Biiil@none.not> wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:59:06 -0700 Abbey Somebody
abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> wrote in Message id:
340s055oqus91bocl81he5luv25me65eog@4ax.com>:

The girls I sleep with end up saying "Don't... stop... Don't....
stop..."

Oh Pu-leeze...

The only piece of ass you ever had was when your finger slipped through
the toilet paper.

Sounds like a problem only retarded twits like you have.

 

On Sat, 16 May 2009 18:47:39 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

JosephKK wrote:

On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:20:24 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Nobody wrote:

On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:41:10 -0700, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

Actually, how are you supposed to pull away on the flat? I know that, in
practice, most people just use the footbrake. But if you do that on the UK
driving test, you'll fail; you're not supposed to release the handbrake
until the clutch bites (i.e. no freewheeling at any point).

[Note to Rich: heel-and-toe will also cause you to fail. Pedals aren't
supposed to be operated with the heel.]

You take the test with an automatic transmission.

If you do that in the UK, you get a driving licence only allows you to
drive vehicles with automatic transmission. This would be a significant
drawback when 90% of cars (and nearly all vans) have manual transmission,
so very few people do so.

Interesting. I didn't know they made such distinctions on licenses over
there.

Here in the USA, although we do have a 'commercial drivers license'
class for people who drive large trucks commercially, one can drive the
same sized vehicle for personal use (even licensed as a 'passenger car')
with no special license endorsements. Stick shifts, vehicle size,
trailers, nothing dealing with vehicle characteristics requires a
special license. Except motorcycles.

Not quite. It requires a higher level drivers' license to drive a
roadway vehicle with air brakes, or more than one trailer.

Tell that to the guy down the road with the Bluebird motor home
(essentially a Greyhound bus). No special driver's license needed. And
the bus is licensed as a passenger car.

It's got hydrolic assist braking, wheighs in at just under 10000 lbs
and is not permitted to carry more than 14 people so by the DOT regs
it is a private vehicle. Don't like em but thems the rules of the
government nannies.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 10:41:54 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:04:52 -0500, flipper <flipper@fish.net> wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 09:32:01 GMT, James Arthur

This program suggests--and finds geologic evidence to support--
that a comet hit plunged the earth into a deep freeze, causing
the last great extinction.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/clovis/

"NARRATOR: Thirteen-thousand years ago, the Earth's climate was not
unlike ours today. But then, suddenly, it changed radically. It was
mysteriously thrown back into the Ice Age, and some of the greatest
animals that have ever lived vanished:[...]"

Well, that's a bummer, isn't it?

Hard to believe that one will get much traction, though, because it
can't be blamed on man.

You know we killed them off. You just know it.

Bastards.

Maybe we should start a strategic CO2 reserve, just in case...

I'd kill myself out of sheer guilt if I could be sure my carbon would
be properly sequestered.

Hey, that could be an interesting business, carbon-neutral cremation.

Nah:
http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/e-sermons/butcher.html >:->

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:06:30 -0500, Andrew wrote:

How much are YOU willing to spend on space programs? Send a check to NASA.

Excellent idea, if it weren't for the income tax, socialist security, and
medicare stripping the loin's share off the top of our paychecks.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:29:50 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

"Andrew" <andyvbel@yahoo.com> wrote in
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov
....
and it creates good paying,productive jobs.

BS. To create this jobs money was taken from creating other good
paying, productive jobs.

For example?
(IMO,it would have gone to social programs;welfare,etc,with a corresponding
decline in the society,and a huge increase in gov't paper-pushing jobs.)

I remember the first Moon landing. I remember a lot of bleeding-hearts

saying, "Why don't we spend all that money right here on Earth?"

Well, we've been doing just that for about four decades now, and look
where it's got us!

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich the Philosophizer]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:23:38 -0700, D from BC wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:24 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer

Well, put your money where your mouth is! Start coming up with some
scientific proofs of your own!

Otherwise, shut your pie hole, dipstick.

And Noah has once again made someone resort to pie hole dipstick name
calling..

Religion is division.

Noah sucks..and there's no evidence.

And still not even a _hint_ of any scientific evidence to back up your
hysterical ranting.

Why does this not surprise me?

'Bye.
Rich

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Bill Palmer wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:59:06 -0700 Abbey Somebody
abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> wrote in Message id:
340s055oqus91bocl81he5luv25me65eog@4ax.com>:

The girls I sleep with end up saying "Don't... stop... Don't....
stop..."

Oh Pu-leeze...

The only piece of ass you ever had was when your finger slipped through
the toilet paper.

Dimbulb can't afford toilet paper, and he likes it that way. 'The
personal touch!'


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:10:20 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 16 May 2009 08:43:14 -0700, Fred Abse
excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 12 May 2009 15:24:51 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Now at device level (no behavioral)....

http://analog-innovations.com/SED/HammerDriver(J.Nagle)2.pdf

There's a problem with this, Jim. Your circuit works fine with a
continuous pulse train, but teletype isn't like that, it can have long
periods of no activity (constant Mark signal), then a few characters, then
more inactivity. The selector magnet must respond to the first drop to
Space (beginning of start bit) of the first character.

[snip]

So add a weenie supply to keep the capacitor "alive", as shown in...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HammerDriver_RevD.pdf

Since the current requirements are essentially leakage, I'd be tempted
to use a capacitor type feed directly from the AC line. I do that
often in appliance control chips.

...Jim Thompson
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Stormy on the East Coast today... due to Bush's failed policies.

 

[Andrew]

"Don Klipstein"

Maybe we should start a strategic CO2 reserve, just in case...

Total human industrial CO2 production,
about 8 Gt C per year (7,56,57).
...
the atmosphere contains 780 Gt C; the surface ocean contains 1,000 Gt C;
vegetation, soils, and detritus contain 2,000 Gt C; and the intermediate
and deep oceans contain 38,000 Gt C, as CO2 or CO2 hydration
products.

Each year, the surface ocean and atmosphere exchange an
estimated 90 Gt C; vegetation and the atmosphere, 100 Gt C; marine
biota and the surface ocean, 50 Gt C; and the surface ocean and the
intermediate and deep oceans, 40 Gt C (56,57).

Though there are annual exchanges, most of your figures sound like
they are for annual exchanges that occur somewhat equally in both
directions within each year.

Of course.
Point is that man-made CO2 generation is negligible. We ought to generate
more CO2.
I should buy SUV as a next car. You do too.

--
Andrew

 

[Andrew]

Getting the young to stay in school an extra year or two to learn
useful stuff also is a good way to spend money. It keeps people out
of the labor pool today and results in a better educated work force in
the future.

Go ahead, spend YOUR money on somebody else's education, but do not spend
MINE.

I can decide what to do with MY money without your or anybody else help.

--
Andrew

 

[Andrew]

Ever since the end of WW II the best our government can come up with
is 1) build military stuff and 2) build space stuff.

the space race was a great spur for electronics and medical.

For example?

where do you think miniaturized electronics came from?

Let me guess. TI and Fairchild?

Medical was all sorts of monitoring/diagnostic gear.

Which could be omplemented at 1/10th the cost in private companies.

consumer products benefitted greatly from space.

Really. What exaclty?

and it creates good paying,productive jobs.

BS. To create this jobs money was taken from creating other good
paying, productive jobs.

For example?

We do not know. Knobody knows because it did not happen. Taxes would be
smaller, people can spend (or save) more of their money on whatever goods
they they prefer.

Goverment does not make wealth. It can only redistribute it loosing portion
of it in the process of redistribution.

(IMO,it would have gone to social programs;welfare,etc,with a
corresponding decline in the society,and a huge increase in gov't
paper-pushing jobs.)

Exactly. If you want to say that space is better than social program, I
agree. Burning collected taxes would be even better...

How much are YOU willing to spend on space programs? Send a check to
NASA.

I do when I pay my taxes.

You see. As soon as we are talking about YOUR money, you do not want to
spend them. Pity.

--
Andrew

 

[Abbey Somebody]

On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:08:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Bill Palmer wrote:

On Fri, 15 May 2009 16:59:06 -0700 Abbey Somebody
abnormal@castlefrankenstein.org> wrote in Message id:
340s055oqus91bocl81he5luv25me65eog@4ax.com>:

The girls I sleep with end up saying "Don't... stop... Don't....
stop..."

Oh Pu-leeze...

The only piece of ass you ever had was when your finger slipped through
the toilet paper.


Dimbulb can't afford toilet paper, and he likes it that way. 'The
personal touch!'

You're the one with the personal skills of a penniless Arab.

 

[D from BC]

On Mon, 18 May 2009 22:02:36 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer
<philosobphizer@example.net> wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:23:38 -0700, D from BC wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:24 GMT, Rich the Philosophizer

Well, put your money where your mouth is! Start coming up with some
scientific proofs of your own!

Otherwise, shut your pie hole, dipstick.

And Noah has once again made someone resort to pie hole dipstick name
calling..

Religion is division.

Noah sucks..and there's no evidence.

And still not even a _hint_ of any scientific evidence to back up your
hysterical ranting.

Why does this not surprise me?

'Bye.
Rich

For every proof posted for the existence of Noah's arc, I will provide
one proof against the existence of Noah's arc.

I'll begin:

Noah's arc doesn't exist because polar bears can't walk to the Arctic
from Noah's landing spot...on the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey!

Your turn..


D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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