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Close, it demands all of the world be its slaves. A real EllsworthOn Jan 12, 9:21 am, "J.A. Legris" <jaleg...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:08:47 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jef...@email.com
wrote:
HEBAbrothers wrote:
Saved their lives even one word
Why silence. ?
Did you see the neo-Nazis?
nuny@ bid.nes wrote:
There are two kinds of people in the world. One kind believes your
implicit condemnation of Jews as the new Nazis.
The other kind realizes that you do not see children as independent
beings who might have hopes and dreams of their own, who might
grow up to experience more of the world than the cramped,
choking view of it that your hate-filled vision prescribes;
that instead you see children as weapon delivery systems.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://www.palestine[...]
Mark left out an important point:
The warhead-tipped rockets that are being launched into Israel
are coming from residential areas
in hopes that this will limit retaliation
Or in hopes to create yet more martyrs? I suspect the creation of
civilian casualties is deliberate on the part of Hamas.
In a society that believes in polygamy, martyrdom and the rights of
loonie imams to make up law, life is cheap.
And a society that insists everyone pray 5 times a day, and has their
best and brightest study the Koran and not Feynman, might be expected
to fall behind the rest of the world, and resent it.
John
Then again, there's something about old traditional societies that
keeps them going through the worst of times.
No, they _cause_ the worst of times. Such societies are arranged for
the benefit of whoever's in charge only.
Individual rights and
freedoms are fine for individuals but ultimately it's the good of the
society that counts and it's still unclear whether the former reliably
leads to the latter.
Not if the society in question treats non-rulers as disposable
assets, which all traditional societies do.
Traditional societies seem to be one form of
stable equilibrium.
Complete "Noble Savage" nonsense.
Are there other solutions? In view of industrial
democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available natural resources it
That is a flat lie.
may eventually prove to be a short-term aberration in a pattern of
long-term survival depending on "backwardness", low productivity and
oligarchy. Enjoy the party while it lasts, but prepare for one nasty
hangover.
Oh, I see, you _want_ to be a slave.
Mark L. Fergerson
If they get caught not praying they get horse whipped or worse; theykrw <krw@att.zzzzzzzzz> wrote in
news:MPG.23d55ce633a484d09897fb@news.individual.net:
In article <d9896f2b-d8d8-4465-be58-0e58a7b8cf39
@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, jalegris@sympatico.ca says...
On Jan 12, 1:05 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:21 am, "J.A. Legris" <jaleg...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:08:47 -0800 (PST), JeffM
jef...@email.com> wrote:
HEBAbrothers wrote:
Saved their lives even one word
Why silence. ?
Did you see the neo-Nazis?
nuny@ bid.nes wrote:
There are two kinds of people in the world. One kind believes
you
r
implicit condemnation of Jews as the new Nazis.
The other kind realizes that you do not see children as
independe
nt
beings who might have hopes and dreams of their own, who
might grow up to experience more of the world than the
cramped, choking view of it that your hate-filled vision
prescribes; that instead you see children as weapon delivery
systems.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://www.palestine[...]
Mark left out an important point:
The warhead-tipped rockets that are being launched into Israel
are coming from residential areas
in hopes that this will limit retaliation
Or in hopes to create yet more martyrs? I suspect the creation
of civilian casualties is deliberate on the part of Hamas.
In a society that believes in polygamy, martyrdom and the
rights of loonie imams to make up law, life is cheap.
And a society that insists everyone pray 5 times a day, and has
the
ir
best and brightest
more accurately,the most gullible.
Islam's "best and brightest" are probably their merchants.
Bull shit, liberal weenies and (right wing) religious weenies do. Andstudy the Koran and not Feynman, might be
expect
ed
to fall behind the rest of the world, and resent it.
John
Then again, there's something about old traditional societies
that keeps them going through the worst of times.
No, they _cause_ the worst of times. Such societies are arranged
fo
r
the benefit of whoever's in charge only.
Individual rights and
freedoms are fine for individuals but ultimately it's the good of
the society that counts and it's still unclear whether the former
reliabl
y
leads to the latter.
Not if the society in question treats non-rulers as disposable
assets, which all traditional societies do.
Traditional societies seem to be one form of
stable equilibrium.
Complete "Noble Savage" nonsense.
Are there other solutions? In view of industrial
democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available natural
resources i
t
That is a flat lie.
may eventually prove to be a short-term aberration in a pattern
of long-term survival depending on "backwardness", low
productivity and oligarchy. Enjoy the party while it lasts, but
prepare for one nasty hangover.
Oh, I see, you _want_ to be a slave.
Mark L. Fergerson
Nobody wants to be a slave,
They can, but can you find many that have (NAFTA for one). I expectbut as they say, the price of freedom is
eternal vigilance. It's a price that gets harder and harder to pay as
we use up our working capital.
Even harder when so many are willing to surrender their 2nd Amendment
rights to keep -and bear- arms.
Eventually New Hampshire may have to
change its motto to "Live Frugal or Die".
In a few hundred millennia, perhaps.
Perhaps much sooner,if liberal US Judges keep dismantling the
Constitution,and liberal Presidents and Congress surrender the US to UN
treaties and control.
Note that treaties override the Constitution.
Dodos, passenger pigeons, some other species. The total capacity toOn Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:21:07 -0800 (PST), "J.A. Legris"
jalegris@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:08:47 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jef...@email.com
wrote:
HEBAbrothers wrote:
Saved their lives even one word
Why silence. ?
Did you see the neo-Nazis?
nuny@ bid.nes wrote:
There are two kinds of people in the world. One kind believes your
implicit condemnation of Jews as the new Nazis.
The other kind realizes that you do not see children as independent
beings who might have hopes and dreams of their own, who might
grow up to experience more of the world than the cramped,
choking view of it that your hate-filled vision prescribes;
that instead you see children as weapon delivery systems.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://www.palestine[...]
Mark left out an important point:
The warhead-tipped rockets that are being launched into Israel
are coming from residential areas
in hopes that this will limit retaliation
Or in hopes to create yet more martyrs? I suspect the creation of
civilian casualties is deliberate on the part of Hamas.
In a society that believes in polygamy, martyrdom and the rights of
loonie imams to make up law, life is cheap.
And a society that insists everyone pray 5 times a day, and has their
best and brightest study the Koran and not Feynman, might be expected
to fall behind the rest of the world, and resent it.
John
Then again, there's something about old traditional societies that
keeps them going through the worst of times. Individual rights and
freedoms are fine for individuals but ultimately it's the good of the
society that counts and it's still unclear whether the former reliably
leads to the latter. Traditional societies seem to be one form of
stable equilibrium. Are there other solutions? In view of industrial
democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available natural resources it
may eventually prove to be a short-term aberration in a pattern of
long-term survival depending on "backwardness", low productivity and
oligarchy. Enjoy the party while it lasts, but prepare for one nasty
hangover.
An inflexible traditional society will be increasingly stressed... by
satellite TV, by the internet, by travel and education, by demand for
rights of all sorts, especially womens' rights. That's what's
happening in a lot of the Muslim world.
As far as exhausting resources go, I don't see that. If things get
scarce, prices go up and substitutes are found. This doesn't happen
"quickly." Can you name a resource that industrial democracy has
exhausted?
The only way "backwards" societies can survive without technology
would be by massive depopulation. Volunteers?
John
Dodos and pigeons are resources?On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:45:48 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:21:07 -0800 (PST), "J.A. Legris"
jalegris@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:08:47 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jef...@email.com
wrote:
HEBAbrothers wrote:
Saved their lives even one word
Why silence. ?
Did you see the neo-Nazis?
nuny@ bid.nes wrote:
There are two kinds of people in the world. One kind believes your
implicit condemnation of Jews as the new Nazis.
The other kind realizes that you do not see children as independent
beings who might have hopes and dreams of their own, who might
grow up to experience more of the world than the cramped,
choking view of it that your hate-filled vision prescribes;
that instead you see children as weapon delivery systems.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://www.palestine[...]
Mark left out an important point:
The warhead-tipped rockets that are being launched into Israel
are coming from residential areas
in hopes that this will limit retaliation
Or in hopes to create yet more martyrs? I suspect the creation of
civilian casualties is deliberate on the part of Hamas.
In a society that believes in polygamy, martyrdom and the rights of
loonie imams to make up law, life is cheap.
And a society that insists everyone pray 5 times a day, and has their
best and brightest study the Koran and not Feynman, might be expected
to fall behind the rest of the world, and resent it.
John
Then again, there's something about old traditional societies that
keeps them going through the worst of times. Individual rights and
freedoms are fine for individuals but ultimately it's the good of the
society that counts and it's still unclear whether the former reliably
leads to the latter. Traditional societies seem to be one form of
stable equilibrium. Are there other solutions? In view of industrial
democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available natural resources it
may eventually prove to be a short-term aberration in a pattern of
long-term survival depending on "backwardness", low productivity and
oligarchy. Enjoy the party while it lasts, but prepare for one nasty
hangover.
An inflexible traditional society will be increasingly stressed... by
satellite TV, by the internet, by travel and education, by demand for
rights of all sorts, especially womens' rights. That's what's
happening in a lot of the Muslim world.
As far as exhausting resources go, I don't see that. If things get
scarce, prices go up and substitutes are found. This doesn't happen
"quickly." Can you name a resource that industrial democracy has
exhausted?
Dodos, passenger pigeons, some other species. The total capacity to
support life is a cofunction of the diversity of life.
Advice you should take yourself perhaps.On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:24:11 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jeffm_@email.com
wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
In a society that believes in polygamy, martyrdom
and the rights of loonie imams to make up law, life is cheap.
JeffM wrote:
...and as Hamas is the democratically-elected gov't there,
the weapons are being launched in the name of that populace,
making them viable targets.
John Larkin wrote:
Targeting civilians is always stupid and immoral.
Since the industrialized warfare of the 1940s,
the definition of who is a civilian has contracted.
Anyone who supplies weapons, communications, transport, food,
or otherwise gives aid and comfort to the combatants is part of the
problem.
I'm not convinced it's ever been different.
Then study some history.
John
Because everyone knew they were building a landfill there, so pricesOn Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:30:42 -0600, krw <krw@att.zzzzzzzzz> wrote:
In article <agdnm4dml1n31mtq0te56horgr6spojjug@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com says...
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:16:04 -0800 (PST), "J.A. Legris"
jalegris@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Jan 12, 1:36 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:16:09 -0800 (PST), "J.A. Legris"
jaleg...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
industrial
democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available natural resources
"...industrial democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available
natural resources..."
What is it that's exhausted?
Tendency to quickly exhaust is just that, a tendency, but the
potential outcome looms large.
Many species of fish are headed toward or have experienced population
collapse.
And are coming back, now that quota controls are in place.
Fresh water supplies are widely threatened.
Where? My #2 daughter is heavily involved with water. The worst
water you can drink is in bottles.
Old-growth
forests are nearly gone.
Replaced with new-growth. Doh!
Urbanization continues to destroy animal
habitats.
Horse feathers! There was just a National Geographics show about
hawks in downtown NYC. And, around here in southern Phoenix, you may
lose your dog to an owl ;-)
New landfills are nearly impossible to establish.
Only if they're not managed properly.... again only back in
weenie-land.
*ONLY* because of NIMBY weenies. ...particularly those who moved
next to where a landfill has been planned for decades.
Why do you think they moved there?
Squab is pretty taisty, anyway.On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:22:08 -0800, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:45:48 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:21:07 -0800 (PST), "J.A. Legris"
jalegris@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Jan 12, 11:28 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:08:47 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jef...@email.com
wrote:
HEBAbrothers wrote:
Saved their lives even one word
Why silence. ?
Did you see the neo-Nazis?
nuny@ bid.nes wrote:
There are two kinds of people in the world. One kind believes your
implicit condemnation of Jews as the new Nazis.
The other kind realizes that you do not see children as independent
beings who might have hopes and dreams of their own, who might
grow up to experience more of the world than the cramped,
choking view of it that your hate-filled vision prescribes;
that instead you see children as weapon delivery systems.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://www.palestine[...]
Mark left out an important point:
The warhead-tipped rockets that are being launched into Israel
are coming from residential areas
in hopes that this will limit retaliation
Or in hopes to create yet more martyrs? I suspect the creation of
civilian casualties is deliberate on the part of Hamas.
In a society that believes in polygamy, martyrdom and the rights of
loonie imams to make up law, life is cheap.
And a society that insists everyone pray 5 times a day, and has their
best and brightest study the Koran and not Feynman, might be expected
to fall behind the rest of the world, and resent it.
John
Then again, there's something about old traditional societies that
keeps them going through the worst of times. Individual rights and
freedoms are fine for individuals but ultimately it's the good of the
society that counts and it's still unclear whether the former reliably
leads to the latter. Traditional societies seem to be one form of
stable equilibrium. Are there other solutions? In view of industrial
democracy's tendency to quickly exhaust available natural resources it
may eventually prove to be a short-term aberration in a pattern of
long-term survival depending on "backwardness", low productivity and
oligarchy. Enjoy the party while it lasts, but prepare for one nasty
hangover.
An inflexible traditional society will be increasingly stressed... by
satellite TV, by the internet, by travel and education, by demand for
rights of all sorts, especially womens' rights. That's what's
happening in a lot of the Muslim world.
As far as exhausting resources go, I don't see that. If things get
scarce, prices go up and substitutes are found. This doesn't happen
"quickly." Can you name a resource that industrial democracy has
exhausted?
Dodos, passenger pigeons, some other species. The total capacity to
support life is a cofunction of the diversity of life.
Dodos and pigeons are resources?
When the opponent is openly genocidal, that may well be the onlyOn Jan 12, 4:08 pm, JeffM <jef...@email.com> wrote:
HEBAbrothers wrote:
Saved their lives even one word
Why silence. ?
Did you see the neo-Nazis?
nuny@ bid.nes wrote:
There are two kinds of people in the world. One kind believes your
implicit condemnation of Jews as the new Nazis.
The other kind realizes that you do not see children as independent
beings who might have hopes and dreams of their own, who might
grow up to experience more of the world than the cramped,
choking view of it that your hate-filled vision prescribes;
that instead you see children as weapon delivery systems.
Mark L. Fergerson
http://www.palestine[...]
Mark left out an important point:
The warhead-tipped rockets that are being launched into Israel
are coming from residential areas
in hopes that this will limit retaliation
IMO, the Israelis are showing remarkable restraint.
If weapons were being launched at me and mine,
I'd want the areas where those launchers are to be leveled.http://www.google.com/images?q=Daisy-Cutter
Idiot - what difference would that make? By the time you find the
place they would move on to a new one.
You would have to level teh whole of Gaza - wait, is that the idea?
Genocide?
If you were competent enough to get the contract it is up to you toHi,
We wanna build a multi-channel communication system with either
Frequency Hopping or Spread Spectrum to eliminate the effect of
Jamming on the system. We want to have it for long range typically
10Km and could be expanded to longer distances if the prototype
works.
The system will be used with SWAT team for sending Live Video
streaming to the Command and control center. The Cameras that will be
used would be over a helmet like the ones which are used with the
Racing cars.
Could anyone suggest to me ideas on existing products or help me in
building one.
regards
WHY? A short jumper solves the problem better in almost allI posted this question earlier to sci.electronics.components but yet got any
answers. I try if there somebody could know
something about my issue.
I have tried to find RJ-45 panel mount plug, but couldn't so far find
those anywhere. I have heard that these kind of plugs really exists and are
mainly made for testing/tester use. It would be also a nice extra to have
plug without locking clip. Panel mount sockets can be found everywhere
but plugs i haven't seen yet.
Br.
Pekko
If you actually want to get technical it is a EIA-568 connector. AndPekko wrote:
I posted this question earlier to sci.electronics.components but yet got any
answers. I try if there somebody could know
something about my issue.
I have tried to find RJ-45 panel mount plug, but couldn't so far find
those anywhere. I have heard that these kind of plugs really exists and are
mainly made for testing/tester use. It would be also a nice extra to have
plug without locking clip. Panel mount sockets can be found everywhere
but plugs I haven't seen yet.
RJ-45 is only one application of the connectors. The original name
was 8P8C modular connector.
Several ways of doing it. In mine I required a high DC input impedance inaEeyore wrote:
Clifford Heath wrote:
Paul wrote:
Anyhow, what kind of circuit are they using in this AM-240? It
appears as if it *resists* change!
It's almost certainly a bootstrapped input amplifier, with the
bootstrap gain slightly over unity.
Damn you reminded me.
Hah ! Bootstrapping ! You have to be careful in critical apps but I did
one 24 yrs ago with 100M input Z. Very few app notes mention it. In fact
I reckon I worked this one out for myself.
It was invented in World War II to get rid of the cable capacitance in
hydrophones--the original name was 'ghost repeater'. It's a great help
with frequency response but generally doesn't do much for the SNR. Of
course in a scope that usually isn't such a worry.
was able to get it with a glitch-free download.On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:16:54 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
JeffM wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
Remember i am on dial-up so a long file (>2megs) takes a long time
and the longer the time, the more likely it can be trashed or lost.
http://www.mdgx.com/files/NV8269.EXE which is about 14Megs
[...]always terminates somewhere in the middle[...]
I tried GetIt Right, and it instantly dies with a 403.
Assuming you mean GetRight (the download manager),
a 403 means that the referring page isn't what those guys require.
(aka: We're anal and you have to do it OUR way--no leaching or
linking.)
A download manager doesn't give a referring page, so you're stuck.
Find a neighbor/friend with a fast connection and a CD burner.
Someone was *VERY* kind and sent me the file broken into 500K UUE
files.
After stripping off the (variable length) e-mail headers and the 4
blank lines at the end, and *then* combining to a large (21,364150
bytes) file, i was able to decode to a decent EXE (untried so far).
That seems rather large.
Don't run it unless you trust the person who sent it to you. It could
easily be a trojan horse.
Sylvia.
It may seem to be large, but this is ASCII characters which makes it
larger; the decoded EXE is 14,903 Kbytes in size.
You and i have worked reasonably well together before. My respect for
you and how you act in this ng gives you a substantial friend score.
So my offer is like this: You want a file, email me and physically
send media; RW or extendable strongly preferred, and i send it back
with the requested files on it. I have rewriters all the way to dual
layer DVD (9GB). Part of the idea is to reuse the media, may be
foolish versus postage though.
Thanks very much for the offer, but in this case of the NV8269.EXE, i
In article <mnktm4p4t7elotf41jja3gjd9qpi1gsqec@4ax.com>,
quiettechblue@yahoo.com says...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:16:05 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
I don't like big, sloppy, ugly, mushy, heavy cars, or slow, buggy,
annoying software. Does that make me un-American?
I wouldn't have thought so.
I did own a Ford Fiesta once, but it was made in Germany.
That's an ultra-compact for the USA. What did you think of it ?
The US makes the best aircraft, the best semiconductors, the best
computers, the best electronic instruments... lots of good things. But
the big3 auto makers have been paralyzed for decades by the unions and
their own bad management.
Are Boeing airliners really better than Airbuses ? Singapore Airlines LOVE their
A380s. They're performing beyond expectation.
What do you drive?
Saab. The choice of engineers and professionals generally.
Graham
No. Their heyday is quite passed. They were good until about 10 to
15 years ago.
About the time GM absorbed them is when the quality went to shit.
Try an Internet search on "grounding separately derived systems"Hi Phil,
So you are saying I should carry the ground from the input line cord to the
chassis and to the output receptacle ground as well? But, leave both the
secondary outputs hot and neutral unbonded?
Wouldn't it be better if I just used a 2 conductor receptacle with no
ground? I mean is it really a real ground since neither the hot nor neutral
coming off the secondary can deliver any current to it?
Thanks
Alan
But do they float when landed on the Hudson River ? BTW, the A320 actually has a specialT wrote:
quiettechblue@yahoo.com says...
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
The US makes the best aircraft,
There never was a problem with the product. One went on to cover a MILLION miles (in thethe best semiconductors, the best
computers, the best electronic instruments... lots of good things. But
the big3 auto makers have been paralyzed for decades by the unions and
their own bad management.
Are Boeing airliners really better than Airbuses ? Singapore Airlines LOVE their
A380s. They're performing beyond expectation.
What do you drive?
Saab. The choice of engineers and professionals generally.
Graham
No. Their heyday is quite passed. They were good until about 10 to
15 years ago.
About the time GM absorbed them is when the quality went to shit.
If they were still making a good product, they wouldn't have had to
sell out.
I think that this can lead you to it:On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:22:39 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:17:07 -0800 (PST), makolber@yahoo.com wrote:
For real microwave apps, there's Sonnet Lite and Puff, both free, ................snip
what is "puff"?
Mark
What is "google"?
John
I have a copy of "Puff" around here somewhere ;-)
Though I may have tossed it... IIRC it was on a 5-1/4" floppy :-(
Is it available for "modern" operating systems?
...Jim Thompson
I did not write any of the quoted material except:"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
T wrote:
quiettechblue@yahoo.com says...
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
The US makes the best aircraft,
But do they float when landed on the Hudson River ? BTW, the A320 actually has a special
switch for 'ditching mode'.
http://sturly.com/ra1
What does the DITCHING pb do? PHB 10.5.4
The DITCHING pb on the pressurization panel, when selected ON, allows the pilot
to close all exterior openings below the flotation line. This will enhance
flotation of the aircraft in case of ditching.
System sends a close signal to:
Outflow valve (if not in manual control)
Emergency ram air inlet
Avionics ventilation inlet and extraction valves
Pack flow control valves
Forward cargo isolation outlet valve (if installed)
the best semiconductors, the best
computers, the best electronic instruments... lots of good things. But
the big3 auto makers have been paralyzed for decades by the unions and
their own bad management.
Are Boeing airliners really better than Airbuses ? Singapore Airlines LOVE their
A380s. They're performing beyond expectation.
What do you drive?
Saab. The choice of engineers and professionals generally.
Graham
No. Their heyday is quite passed. They were good until about 10 to
15 years ago.
About the time GM absorbed them is when the quality went to shit.
If they were still making a good product, they wouldn't have had to
sell out.
There never was a problem with the product. One went on to cover a MILLION miles (in the
USA as it happens)..
However the parent company wanted to get out of cars for some reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab
Saab AB[1] is an aerospace and defense company based in Sweden.
Its roots were always in aircraft. Hence the logo on the cars.
Graham
If they were still making a good product, they wouldn't have had to
sell out.
<snip>Eeyore wrote:
Well, you've just described Donkeyland medicine.If they were still making a good product, they wouldn't have had to
sell out.
Aircraft are not cars, so the reference is irrelevant, no matter how
many times you have posted it. Butchers and Doctors both use use sharp
tools to cut meat. Would you go to the local butcher shop for heart
bypass surgery?
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:41:48 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
snip
If they were still making a good product, they wouldn't have had to
sell out.
Aircraft are not cars, so the reference is irrelevant, no matter how
many times you have posted it. Butchers and Doctors both use use sharp
tools to cut meat. Would you go to the local butcher shop for heart
bypass surgery?
Well, you've just described Donkeyland medicine.