Driver to drive?

JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]

Please place current source on sourceforge.
[...]

http://www.exscientia.org/content/akula_tools.html has nps-125.zip
available for download. The source code is inside that archive,
named nps-125-src.zip

The source code is ready to compile with Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0
with SP6.

You can find other download urls by Googling for "nps-125.zip"

 

[JosephKK]

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:00:26 -0500, default <default@defaulter.net>
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:58:40 -0800, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:49:56 -0500, default <default@defaulter.net
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:45:16 -0800, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:26:42 -0400, default <default@defaulter.net
wrote:

Does anyone have a schematic for a simple four pin HEI ignition module
from 1970's+ ignition systems. They appear to contain an SCR and a
pair of diodes and resistors.

Pickup Coil connects to two terminals and battery and induction coil
primary the other two, mounting screw provides a ground connection.

Original type mounted to the distributor plate on GM cars and others
and was ~1/4 round shape - I want to adapt it to a motorcycle that has
pickup coils mounted remote from the modules.

Whatever you do, it will be specific to that make, model and year. Do
you know that most 4-cylinder MC have two ignition coils (and no
distributor)? (Some have 4, and many V-twins have two.) Many 1970s
and later MC have some variation of CDI already, do you know what it
currently has? What kind of sensor coils does it use (some still used
points)? Does it have speed variable timing, some do, and some don't.

Of course I know all that.

Make model and year - just a simple switch with no timing advance.

Duh? Like I haven't counted the coils by now? Two coils, two pickup
coils, four cylinders.

CDI is stretching a point - they call it CDI but the module is less
than a cubic inch - no room for a cap. Only one three terminal device
with no inductors, one tiny ceramic cap, and a few diodes - values
unknown. In the 80's CDI meant DC/DC converter and a box of ~10 cubic
inches charging up a 1 uf to 350V to discharge through an ignition
coil. This gizmo doesn't have that many parts - more like a
transistor switch goosed by a pickup coil as a magnet passes by,

No points - pickup coils.

No variable timing - that's done mechanically. Magnets are on a
centrifugal advanced plate, pickup coils are stationary.

It appears as if they just use a transistor switch. The coils have 12
volts to one side of the primary as long as the ignition is on.

When the motor is turning, the other side of the primary goes to
ground briefly. Two identical coils, two identical modules, each
alternately fires on each revolution of the crank - one wasted spark
per two cylinders.

I have an ignition module from a 1984 bike -same plug/receptacle but
the circuitry suggests there is an electronic advance using an RC
network - larger module, more parts, but it still works in the 1980
bike. Suggests to me that there is a primative advance circuit in the
module. But the 84 module still contains mostly passive components
with three small capacitors and more diodes and resistors.

Unlike outboard motors - the bike doesn't have a high voltage winding
on the charging circuit - everything works from 12 VDC.

Good, please humor me and measure primary current versus time on a
running engine. Let me know if you get any surprises.

Not in the near future. It goes to ground and presumably draws some
current. There is a spike of ~300 volts on the primary side from
inductive kick.

Primary current and time would be nice to see. Lacking a current
probe for my scope . . . not that the scope is bright enough to see
outdoors.

Bike is laid up until I get a valve tool. Two of the 16 valves have
below spec clearances, and two more are borderline. I'd do damage to
continue running it in this state. Minimum is .003 and one is below
.0015.

Yes, adjust those valves first.

Current probe for what you want is easy to make, just get a nicely
oversized toroid and put say 50 turns of #20 hookup wire around it and
a 5 ohm metal film burden resistor. Run 25 feet of 50 ohm coax to the
scope (which will be nicely in the shade) with the input set to 50
ohms. Start on a high scale and work down until you can read it.

 

[JosephKK]

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:35:36 +0000 (UTC), "Bill" wrote:

JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]
Please place current source on sourceforge.
[...]

http://www.exscientia.org/content/akula_tools.html has nps-125.zip
available for download. The source code is inside that archive,
named nps-125-src.zip

The source code is ready to compile with Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0
with SP6.

You can find other download urls by Googling for "nps-125.zip"

Got it, thanks. I will need to modify it for my particular situation.
When i do, where do i send the marked up source?

 

[Robert Baer]

Robert Baer wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.
Hello?

When can i buy even a prototype?

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:39 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:

Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.
Hello?
When can i buy even a prototype?

Be patient ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

Now that the value of our money is all queer they've decided to
inscribe the portrait of Barney Frank onto the One Dollar Bill.

 

[Richard The Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:25:54 -0800, Bret Cahill wrote:

What will be the "solution" to the financial "situation?"

The obvious answer is privatize, and let the people that bought mortgages
that they _knew_ they couldn't afford, planning on riding the
bubble and making a killing, go broke. You certainly wouldn't bail out
some idiot who loses his life savings at the craps table!

But, that doesn't look like it's in the crystal balls - it looks like
we're about to follow the former Soviet Union into collapse.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Jim Granville]

Ulf Samuelsson wrote:

FYI: Todays press announcement

San Jose, CA, October 29, 2008.AtmelŽ Corporation (Nasdaq: ATML), today
announced that, after careful consideration, its Board of Directors has
unanimously determined that the October 1, 2008, unsolicited proposal from
Microchip Technology Inc. (NASDAQ: MCHP) and ON Semiconductor Corporation
(NASDAQ: ONNN) is inadequate in multiple respects, including value,
conditionality and complexity, and is not in the best interests of Atmel's
stockholders.

....and a few weeks later, seems it is still all on !?

[Nov 12: SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Despite receiving a rejection slip,
Microchip Technology Inc. and On Semiconductor Corp. remain committed in
their proposed and unsolicited acquisition of Atmel Corp.

And there is a major surprise in the latest announcement: Microchip now
claims it owns approximately 4.1 percent of Atmel's outstanding common
stock. ]

-jg

 

[Robert Baer]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:39 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Robert Baer wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:


Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.

Hello?
When can i buy even a prototype?


Be patient ;-)

...Jim Thompson
OK.

Be advised that the majority of SPAMcalls "id" as "UUU UNKNOWN
CALLER" or as "PPP PRIVATE CALLER" and the so-called trace (*57) does
not work.
So a "blacklist" of unwanted numbers is not all that useful.
Not that i object to such an idea, but the black box should reject /
shunt all calls not on the whitelist.
And a simple message to unwanted callers is not sufficent.
A selection of pre-programmed responses that the user can "piece
together" would seem to be ideal, and definitely should include those 3
magic tones.
"Instant pickup and response" is perfect, especially for those
unidentified callers - using the 3 tones.

BTW, what if the caller siezes the line? (happens sometimes)
Is there any way to ZAP them and recover use of the line?

 

[TheM]

"Jim Granville" <no.spam@designtools.maps.co.nz> wrote in message news:491ceb77$1@clear.net.nz...

Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
FYI: Todays press announcement

San Jose, CA, October 29, 2008.AtmelŽ Corporation (Nasdaq: ATML), today announced that, after careful consideration, its Board of
Directors has unanimously determined that the October 1, 2008, unsolicited proposal from Microchip Technology Inc. (NASDAQ: MCHP)
and ON Semiconductor Corporation (NASDAQ: ONNN) is inadequate in multiple respects, including value, conditionality and
complexity, and is not in the best interests of Atmel's stockholders.

...and a few weeks later, seems it is still all on !?

[Nov 12: SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Despite receiving a rejection slip, Microchip Technology Inc. and On Semiconductor Corp. remain
committed in their proposed and unsolicited acquisition of Atmel Corp.

And there is a major surprise in the latest announcement: Microchip now claims it owns approximately 4.1 percent of Atmel's
outstanding common stock. ]

-jg

Time to get atmel stocks?

M

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:58:51 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:39 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Robert Baer wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:


Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.

Hello?
When can i buy even a prototype?


Be patient ;-)

...Jim Thompson
OK.
Be advised that the majority of SPAMcalls "id" as "UUU UNKNOWN
CALLER" or as "PPP PRIVATE CALLER" and the so-called trace (*57) does
not work.

My present land-line phone subscription can be set to block
anonymous/unknown callers. I have to turn it off when my doctor
calls.

So a "blacklist" of unwanted numbers is not all that useful.

A good start is to simply block every "800-number".

Not that i object to such an idea, but the black box should reject /
shunt all calls not on the whitelist.
And a simple message to unwanted callers is not sufficent.
A selection of pre-programmed responses that the user can "piece
together" would seem to be ideal, and definitely should include those 3
magic tones.
"Instant pickup and response" is perfect, especially for those
unidentified callers - using the 3 tones.

BTW, what if the caller siezes the line? (happens sometimes)
Is there any way to ZAP them and recover use of the line?

Reverse potential drops the line.

I've also considered a "pass-key" approach not unlike those "enter
these four letters" web site controls. Have our machine "answer" the
phone and request a 4-number sequence to cause the line to ring.
Solicitors won't take the time.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food

 

[legg]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:48:40 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:13:27 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:02:27 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

When power dissipation gets beyond the trivial, a TO-247, with its
more centered hole and a big footprint, is a far better deal than the
toy TO-220. Better yet is the version without the hole, whatever that
is, clip mounted with no insulator. You can spend a little more on
silicon and save a lot on heatsinks.

Decent thermal design is difficult, worse for transients. I prefer to
build a mockup (cardboard and duct tape, with real heatsinks and fans,
whatever) and either measure true Tj, or - more fun - test the parts
to destruction and see how much margin we have.

I wish I could afford (and stand the learning curve of) some decent 3d
thermal sim software.

The hole-free TO247/SC65/SOT429 is TO274. The TO264/SOT430 also has a
hole-free version, but I've yet to run across a designator for it.
TO220 and TO126 also had a number of hole-free versions in Europe and
Asia (2-10T1A and SOT82/SOT194).

Semiconductor packages that have seriously addressed thermal interface
issues generally either have the mounting 'screw' integrated into the
body (ie stud), use multiple mounting holes that apply pressure to the
mounting surface at equidistant points, or engage a clamping structure
- again usually with more than one clamp support position. These are
more common in industrial RF or traction/inversion power devices.

You see the same principles applied in Japanese commercial plastic
power parts like the M38, MT200 and HPAK/2-34H1A. All of these were
ignored by 'western' industry, and continue to languish in limbo.

On the side of the ridiculous, multiple hermetic versions of the TO220
were developed for MIL and aerospace in the TO257 and TO265, which
just shows how stupidity can be duplicated, in the process of quick
and dirty design 'militarization' - though there already was a
two-screw version in the TO254. Similar hijinks occurred with TO218
package sizes.

Recently stumbled across a TO273AA package shape ( IR 'Super 220'),
which is an overcast uninsulated TO220 without a mounting hole.
Applied to mosfets and IGBTs, it claims 300W capability @Tc<25C and
Rthjc of between 0.25 and 0.5, depending on the part. Rth case to
heatsink should beat any conventional TO220, at 0.5 - if published
data is to be believed.

http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irfba1404p.pdf

I thought IR had sold it's conventional mosfet line......Data requests
being forwarded through to Vishay over the last year or so......these
are new IR parts sourced from mainland China.

The new catalog has few parts over 250V.

RL

 

[Jim Yanik]

ratman <endlr@execpc.com> wrote in
news:js7sh4tuc8l7ennillluf09fobemdehc6b@4ax.com:

On Tue, 08 May 2007 14:56:50 GMT, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

I know this subject of "cheap" and "calibrate" used in the same
sentence may well be anathema to some of you but I need to verify that
either my IR temp gun is accurate or my DMM/thermocouple is, or
neither. Accuracy to 2 or 3 degrees F is fine.

I'm looking for suggestions for a simple way to provide some kind of
common temperature "standard" (I use the term loosely, here) I can
compare these against.

Thanks,


I would put money on the therocouple thermometer, for what
it's worth.

How do you know the basic DMM is accurate?
gotta use the RIGHT thermocouple,too.


Ice water bath in styrofoam cup and boiling water in pot. 32F and 212F.
Can't get any simpler.
(unless you are at some unusual altitude,like Denver)

But you could find corrections online,I'm sure,DAGS.


take a heavy gauge aluminum strip,paint exposed part flat black,and stick
in cup/pot,for IR thermometer reading.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

[JosephKK]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:58:51 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:39 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Robert Baer wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:


Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.

Hello?
When can i buy even a prototype?


Be patient ;-)

...Jim Thompson
OK.
Be advised that the majority of SPAMcalls "id" as "UUU UNKNOWN
CALLER" or as "PPP PRIVATE CALLER" and the so-called trace (*57) does
not work.
So a "blacklist" of unwanted numbers is not all that useful.
Not that i object to such an idea, but the black box should reject /
shunt all calls not on the whitelist.
And a simple message to unwanted callers is not sufficent.
A selection of pre-programmed responses that the user can "piece
together" would seem to be ideal, and definitely should include those 3
magic tones.
"Instant pickup and response" is perfect, especially for those
unidentified callers - using the 3 tones.

BTW, what if the caller siezes the line? (happens sometimes)
Is there any way to ZAP them and recover use of the line?

POTS lines are loop start and no-loop stop. If i am hearing a
longwinded ad that interferes with what i wish to do, i just pop the
jack out of the wall for a few seconds. The call has been ended.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2008-11-15, JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

POTS lines are loop start and no-loop stop. If i am hearing a
longwinded ad that interferes with what i wish to do, i just pop the
jack out of the wall for a few seconds. The call has been ended.

I've seen some that would only terminate the call if the caller hangs up.
this feature would allow the called party to hang up one handset and then
pick up in a different part of the house.

 

[lynchaj]

On Nov 15, 9:51 am, lynchaj <lync...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi All!
Twylo posted a really nice photo spread of the N8VEM SBC and ECB
backplane.  I thought you might be interested in seeing it up close.

http://flickr.com/photos/twylo/sets/72157608408069347/

http://flickr.com/photos/twylo/sets/72157605637029141/

The N8VEM project is the build-it-yourself home brew Z80 CP/M
computer.  Kudos to Twylo for the great presentation on Flickr.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Andrew Lynch

Bump for alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt and sci.electronics.design in
case anyone is interested

Thanks! Have a nice day!

Andrew Lynch

 

JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:35:36 +0000 (UTC), "Bill" wrote:

JosephKK <quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

[...]
Please place current source on sourceforge.
[...]

http://www.exscientia.org/content/akula_tools.html has nps-125.zip
available for download. The source code is inside that archive,
named nps-125-src.zip

The source code is ready to compile with Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0
with SP6.

You can find other download urls by Googling for "nps-125.zip"

Got it, thanks. I will need to modify it for my particular situation.
When i do, where do i send the marked up source?

Please use the newsgroup

alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.modified

It's a low traffic newsgroup.

If it's a small amount of code changes, you can just
put the filename, line number and change in your reply.

 

[Mark-T]

On Nov 15, "Rob" <robbie.buckleyaoptusnet.com.au> wrote:

Another neat one - with 2 dice, the most likely total is 7. Find someone who
knows this, and offer even money that you can throw an eight and a six
before your opponent throws two sevens. Easy money.

Cute.

And: if you spread a blanket over an empty
bed, will it warm up? In my experience, about
half answer affirmative. No way to make a buck,
but still fun.

Offer this prop to your friends and neighbors:
  You pick a number from 1 to 6, then throw 3 dice.
If your number comes up, you win; else I win.
Even money.

The first point is that most people will agree it's 50-50.
No surprise there, the required reasoning exceeds the
capabilities of Joe Sixpack.  He may or may not play,
depending on whether he's a gambler.

Then, offer him a new prop: You pick a number from
1 to 6,  Throw one die, if your number hits, you win.
If not, try a second time, and 3rd time, if necessary.
Even money.

The funny part is the common reaction.  In the second
case,  he is likely to respond "ha, you can't fool me,
that's a sucker bet!  Because if I miss the first one,
it's only 1/6 chance on each one after."

There are a number of these, to test the proles'
knowledge of math and science.

Mark

 

[Eeyore]

Jim Yanik wrote:

How do you know the basic DMM is accurate?

They are surprisingly decent IME. Even the cheapies.

gotta use the RIGHT thermocouple,too.

K-type is generally the most useful for general work and inexpensive.

Graham

 

[Robert Baer]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:58:51 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:39 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:



Robert Baer wrote:


Robert Baer wrote:



Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.

Hello?
When can i buy even a prototype?


Be patient ;-)

...Jim Thompson

OK.
Be advised that the majority of SPAMcalls "id" as "UUU UNKNOWN
CALLER" or as "PPP PRIVATE CALLER" and the so-called trace (*57) does
not work.


My present land-line phone subscription can be set to block
anonymous/unknown callers. I have to turn it off when my doctor
calls.


So a "blacklist" of unwanted numbers is not all that useful.


A good start is to simply block every "800-number".


Not that i object to such an idea, but the black box should reject /
shunt all calls not on the whitelist.
And a simple message to unwanted callers is not sufficent.
A selection of pre-programmed responses that the user can "piece
together" would seem to be ideal, and definitely should include those 3
magic tones.
"Instant pickup and response" is perfect, especially for those
unidentified callers - using the 3 tones.

BTW, what if the caller siezes the line? (happens sometimes)
Is there any way to ZAP them and recover use of the line?


Reverse potential drops the line.

I've also considered a "pass-key" approach not unlike those "enter
these four letters" web site controls. Have our machine "answer" the
phone and request a 4-number sequence to cause the line to ring.
Solicitors won't take the time.

...Jim Thompson
The "block anonymous/unknown callers" does not work; somehow they got

thru anyway, so i dropped the costly and ineffective service.
"block every 800-number" is not an option provided by Quest, and i am
sure it would be as ineffective.
The "Caller Privacy" option was also useless.

Reversing the line potential to drop the line would be a nice option;
either automatic after the "end" of a "conersation" or with a (red)
pushbutton.

I do not think a "passkey" system is needed or ultimately useful,
because it cannot "zap" a marketeer in such a way as to permenantly
discourage them.
Something more "offensive" like the 3 tones followed by a choosable
message if there is a viable phone number, as well as an *immediate*
pickup on no number with 3 tones and same choices (immediate hangup,
Bronx cheer, etc etc).

 

[Robert Baer]

JosephKK wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:58:51 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:16:39 -0800, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:



Robert Baer wrote:


Robert Baer wrote:



Prelim specs:
1) Plugs into phone line, phone plugs into the black box.
2) Black box records all possible info concerning incoming calls for
later viewing and evidence gathering.
3) If incoming call is not in (programmable) list, then the caller
hears the 3 magic tones as loud as possible followed by a message
delivered s.l.o.w.l.y. "The number you have dialed is not active" and
(options) immediately hang up, OR forward call WITH CID info to a
provided number (say police non-emergency or FBI).
4) If call is in list, then the connected phone rings (call
"forwarded" to it).
5) Memory allows storage of at least 100 incoming SpamCalls per day,
say minimum of 500 total.
Is there anything like this on the market?
If such a device was designed, what would be the estimated sales price?

The sooner i can get one of these, the better.
Marketeers are driving me nuts.

Hello?
When can i buy even a prototype?


Be patient ;-)

...Jim Thompson

OK.
Be advised that the majority of SPAMcalls "id" as "UUU UNKNOWN
CALLER" or as "PPP PRIVATE CALLER" and the so-called trace (*57) does
not work.
So a "blacklist" of unwanted numbers is not all that useful.
Not that i object to such an idea, but the black box should reject /
shunt all calls not on the whitelist.
And a simple message to unwanted callers is not sufficent.
A selection of pre-programmed responses that the user can "piece
together" would seem to be ideal, and definitely should include those 3
magic tones.
"Instant pickup and response" is perfect, especially for those
unidentified callers - using the 3 tones.

BTW, what if the caller siezes the line? (happens sometimes)
Is there any way to ZAP them and recover use of the line?


POTS lines are loop start and no-loop stop. If i am hearing a
longwinded ad that interferes with what i wish to do, i just pop the
jack out of the wall for a few seconds. The call has been ended.

Nope! Not if they sieze the line.