Driver to drive?

[Keith Williams]

In article <c10av0lks7u3i0ln4ajetab29c3aqorqap@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:39:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

I love DST, since it gives another hour of sun
in the evening in summer and gives it back in the morning in the winter.
It's enough of a PITA to have sunlight at 4:00AM, we don't need it at
3:00AM. Likewise it's rather nice to at least go to work this time of
year in the light. It's dark by the time I leave. I'd vote for double
DST. Perhaps another half-hour on both ends.

---
How about Daylight Sliding Time?

That would be where clocks would automatically adjust themselves so
the sun would rise and set at the same time every day.

Railroads wouldn't like that.

--
Keith

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:21:54 -0500, the renowned Keith Williams
<krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <c10av0lks7u3i0ln4ajetab29c3aqorqap@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:39:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

I love DST, since it gives another hour of sun
in the evening in summer and gives it back in the morning in the winter.
It's enough of a PITA to have sunlight at 4:00AM, we don't need it at
3:00AM. Likewise it's rather nice to at least go to work this time of
year in the light. It's dark by the time I leave. I'd vote for double
DST. Perhaps another half-hour on both ends.

---
How about Daylight Sliding Time?

That would be where clocks would automatically adjust themselves so
the sun would rise and set at the same time every day.

Railroads wouldn't like that.

Maybe the earth's orbit could be re-aligned to make things more
consistent. By the time the environmental assessment is approved, the
technology will probably exist.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:00:30 -0500, the renowned Mark Jones
<abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote:

google_groups_usa@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www3.boxke.net << click link for the good news



YAY!

"Error! The account www3 has been suspended!
Use your browser's back button if you wish to try again."

Good news indeed.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[ParaXerxes]

Mark Fergerson wrote:

A "fact"? The US Constitution in particular asserts that certain
rights are God-given (because it was written by men who believed that),
but presents no proof. Do you have any? If not, I see no reason to
bother trying to refute an unsupported assertion.

Atheists fall into the same trap that they accuse religionists of falling
prey to. You have offered no proof of your assertions. Claims a many you
and your cohorts make, but no real proof is offered. So-called scientific
proof is no proof at all, it's but an argument based on human concepts,
human interpretations, human speculation, human preconceptions and human
nonsense in accepting the authority of science as the supreme determinator
and authority. Should we bow down to science as the God of the Universe?
Atheism in such a context is based purely on speculation and assumption.
Dogma reigns in atheism as it reigns in religion and science.

I see no reassonable cause for me to waste my precious time in refuting your
irrational preconceptions.

Incidentally, I am not a religionist.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlog
DOTyou.knowwhat> wrote (in <899av0hc1ukr286i3re3dqfplth8okhb3m@4ax.com&gt
about 'What Is God?', on Mon, 24 Jan 2005:

Maybe the earth's orbit could be re-aligned to make things more
consistent. By the time the environmental assessment is approved, the
technology will probably exist.

Yes, we would just have to eliminate the 23.5 degree tilt of the axis.
No more seasons: sunrise at 6 AM every day, everywhere, sunset at 6 PM
ditto. No visible sun at either Pole, ever.

Might be difficult to move the Moon, though. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:43:48 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com>
wrote:

Nice attempt at a dodge, except for that falling all over yourself bit.

---
How could I help myself? It's not all that often some loud,
pretentious, bitch sets herself up for such a deserving kick in the
ass. It still makes me chuckle, Heh, Heh!

--
John Fields

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:04:27 +0100, "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net>
wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote in message news:0l48v0153b4v6m7o8dhhau5qlhgeg43bva@4ax.com...

But not if you stay at a Mariott or a Club Med; the only locals you
see are the servants.

John

Yep, and many do nowadays, here and there in the US. Such a pity.
Mingling with the locals is much more rewarding.

I just remembered, the Norvegians are much more diverse than you'd think,
they're very open and tolerant to immigrants and indeed you can see all kinds
of people there, black, indian...

S

So, then, what do you think France is going to do about Turkey?

John

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPland
THIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote (in <1gfav0pd6rmo95c8foci57eu0crbhst0cf@
4ax.com&gt about 'Sad Days for America and the World- Four More Years of
Hell', on Mon, 24 Jan 2005:

So, then, what do you think France is going to do about Turkey?

Fricassee de dindon aux asperges, marrons et coeurs de palmier?

--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:08:14 +0000, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

"Mark Jones" <abuse@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:RP6dnXBwBLsDhmjcRVn-oQ@buckeye-express.com...

YAY!

"Error! The account www3 has been suspended!
Use your browser's back button if you wish to try again."

Obviously the site died so the sins of other sites could be forgiven.

(Unlike a lot of atheists, I don't believe that people invent metaphors for
no reason at all. I think they are trying to represent something, but I can
never figure out what they are trying to represent with that one. Maybe
it's connected to some forgotten philosophical concept.)

It's simply rationalization of the incomprehensible. To _make_ it
comprehensible, you have to actually change your mind, which is anathema
to most zealots.

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:15:43 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill <hill_a@t_rowland-
dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote (in <ct1ap801lrc@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Peterson's Death Sentence', on Sun, 23 Jan 2005:
John Woodgate wrote...

I don't think you CAN mistreat an electron. You would need to present
some damaged or worn-out ones to convince me. (;-)

In a college experiment I used to annihilate them with positrons;
that should qualify.


You have been reported to the United Nations Authority for the
Protection of Fundamental Particles. Positrons are an endangered species
and find it difficult to survive in the modern environment.

Is a proton equivalent to a neutron plus a positron, or is a neutron
equivalent to a proton plus an electron?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:47:42 +0000, the renowned John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPland
THIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote (in <1gfav0pd6rmo95c8foci57eu0crbhst0cf@
4ax.com&gt about 'Sad Days for America and the World- Four More Years of
Hell', on Mon, 24 Jan 2005:

So, then, what do you think France is going to do about Turkey?

Fricassee de dindon aux asperges, marrons et coeurs de palmier?

Sounds delicious, or at least better than a serving of "annuaire
téléphonique frit".

With a right-wing government like Chirac's in power, it might be a
hard sell. Maybe the US could set a good example and grant every Iraqi
citizen the right to live and work in the US? That wouldn't be
controversial, would it? ;-) And not something like Thatcher's
worthless BNO passports to nowhere.

 

[SioL]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in message news:1gfav0pd6rmo95c8foci57eu0crbhst0cf@4ax.com...

I just remembered, the Norvegians are much more diverse than you'd think,
they're very open and tolerant to immigrants and indeed you can see all kinds
of people there, black, indian...

S


So, then, what do you think France is going to do about Turkey?

John

I think Germany is their biggest problem right now.

They're swamped with them already and aren't eager to see
more move in.

S

 

[Brian]

"Chris Graham" <chrisgr@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:FKGHd.128245$Xk.65070@pd7tw3no...

I'm designing a product that includes a number of interchangable boards
that give various capabilities, each with its own small microcontroller
and sensors/actuators. Any modules in a system would be connected to a
more powerful main board (basically the reference design of a PDA). It
must be easy for the user to open the box and plug in new modules, or plug
them into sites on the outside, and also for third parties to provide
modules that also plug in.

I was designing my own interconnect standard that included power and
bidirectional data lines (ideally at least1mbps), maybe based on RS485,
and a way for devices to announce their type and capabilities. As I
worked on the design I started to realize I was reinventing USB. I've
been looking at the details of USB, and it certainly does all I need and
more.

Also, fortunately, the central processor board is based on a PDA that has
a USB host capability (and HID driver, which my modules could use), and I
could use small USB enabled processors in the modules. I guess I'd also
have to provide a hub based on one of the available hub chips.

I was hoping this group could give me a sanity check before I proceed to
design a system based on USB.

- Is anyone aware of other products using USB in this way?
- Any other approaches to plug-and-play or mix-and-match smart modules in
a system?
- To keep the costs down I would not want to use standard USB connectors
internally - just headers (but still shielded cable). It this likely to
cause EMI problems? I would have to use the 12mbps version of USB to keep
latency low.

Thanks for reading all the way to the end

- Chris Graham

Besides debates on the merits of USB for this purpose, are there other,
maybe more fitting, serial interconnect standard? Seems to be enough of
them. Like CANBUS

 

[boer]

WayneL wrote:

Hi Boer,
Thanks for responding.
Have you got an explanation for the difference in frequencies for the two
metals? e.g. why are they different if the electrode are of the same size?
Also the paper mentions that other metal were tested and they also showed to
have different frequencies. Have you got this data to hand?

Wayne

Hi Wayne,

I am still studying the paper you referenced. Our lab pursued these
templated wires a decade ago for field emission and photocathode
applications. We found engineering challenges in pore spacing and
thinning the barrier at the pore metal interface. The explanation for
your question I believe is in the thinning of the barrier alumina at the
pore/substrate interface. Most investigations in frequency dependence
and repeatable e-plating focused on this barrier thinning at the
interface. Pore widening and and barrier thinning methods were
thoroughly investigated by a number of labs at the time.

boer

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:02:44 +0100, "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net>
wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in message news:1gfav0pd6rmo95c8foci57eu0crbhst0cf@4ax.com...

I just remembered, the Norvegians are much more diverse than you'd think,
they're very open and tolerant to immigrants and indeed you can see all kinds
of people there, black, indian...

S


So, then, what do you think France is going to do about Turkey?

John

I think Germany is their biggest problem right now.

They're swamped with them already and aren't eager to see
more move in.

Germans? Are they moving to France? Why?

John

 

[SioL]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in message

I think Germany is their biggest problem right now.

They're swamped with them already and aren't eager to see
more move in.


Germans? Are they moving to France? Why?

John

Sorry, should have rephrased. Germans are Turkey's problem on their way to EU.

S

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:59:07 -0800, Jamie wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:15:43 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill <hill_a@t_rowland-
John Woodgate wrote...

I don't think you CAN mistreat an electron. You would need to present
some damaged or worn-out ones to convince me. (;-)

In a college experiment I used to annihilate them with positrons;
that should qualify.

You have been reported to the United Nations Authority for the
Protection of Fundamental Particles. Positrons are an endangered species
and find it difficult to survive in the modern environment.

Is a proton equivalent to a neutron plus a positron, or is a neutron
equivalent to a proton plus an electron?

no, no you have it all wrong!
Quarks ride around in their hadrons chariots just looking
for some electrons trying to attach any upG quarks! if found
then pulls out a couple of photons and accelerates them
towards the electrons there by causing the electronics to jump to its
inner orbit forcing energy up on the neutrons and protons.
End results ? who knows. do i know what the flack i am talking about ?
shit!)

How many surrealists does it take to replace a lightbulb?

A: Fish.

 

[Winfield Hill]

John Fields wrote...

How could I help myself? It's not all that often some loud,
pretentious, bitch sets herself up for such a deserving kick
in the ass. It still makes me chuckle, Heh, Heh!

Still, and all, you may both be on the same side. :&gt


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Clarence_A]

"Rich The Philosophizer" <rtp@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2005.01.24.18.52.49.232399@example.net...

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:15:05 +0000, Clarence_A wrote:


"Pig Bladder" made his usual gracious insults known:
Clarence_A wrote:
"Anthony Fremont" wrote
"Clarence_A" wrote

More bigoted religious garbage!

As opposed to that tolerant, compassionate and magnanimous
statement? Thanks for the heads up, I'm glad you're here
to vigilantly protecting us from the deplorable task of
judging for ourselves.

That's right! I am every bit as tolerant as those who have
threatened to burn my house with me in it, because my
religion
is
not approved by them! Stating a fact is not expressing any
constraint to anyone so inclined. Rot your mind as much as
you
want.

Clarence, It has nothing to do with religion.

Well, that IS what THEY said it was. THEY were Catholic! The
Priest apologized, after I filed a complaint with he police.
He
insisted that it was not the official position of his parish,
only
the actions of a few members. As IF it made a difference!
Since
I had photos of the six most involved there was only a little
nervous time until things settled down. They have since moved
away or were arrested for other crimes. (One is in for 25 to
life.)

Seems you can not practice 'your' religion openly if the
religious
'police' are out and about!

The only reason I don't "practice" my "religion" (more
accurately,
un-religion) "publically" (i.e. NG) any more is because nobody's
interested in a larger paradigm that acknowledges the higher
dimensionality that can give a perspective that answers all of
the
questions there have ever been.

Apparently, it's safer to stay inside the box, and die. Eternal
life is
scary, because you have to experience the tortures of hell
without losing
consciousness.

snip

It was probably retaliation for your irrational bigotry. What
had you done
to them that pissed them off so badly?

Testified to the city council in favor of a movie theater in town.
The religious crowd said it was the playground of Satan!
I replied that at least he wasn't a wet blanket,
But in my belief there was no Satan.
Then all hell broke loose!

 

[Mark Fergerson]

ParaXerxes wrote:

The mediocrity of human knowledge and understanding is unbelievable.

It's perfectly believable when you realize that it isn't very old.

The
arrogance of humans is even more unbelievable in light of its ignorance.

Yeah, and?

the fool thinks themselves wise.

I've noticed that. How wise do you think you are? Have you noticed
how arrogant you are?

When a question is asked with sincerity I will answer.

I don't care how you define sincerity. I do want to know what your
basis of rejection of science is if you consider yourself human. It is
demonstrably the best tool we've found _so far_ to decrease ignorance
about things within its scope.

Make all the assumptions about me that you like, nothing, not even the human
pretence to knowledge, can change truth. Truth is not subservient to human
concepts.

Oh, "Truth" again. What do you think "Truth" is? How do you know
human minds can't encompass "Truth"? Why do you believe your "knowledge"
of that is better than the scientific kind of knowledge?

Magna est veritas et prevalebit.

Don't try to impress me with Latin "Truths".

More have been turned away from
science because of science's and its adherents attitudes than you'll ever
realise. It really is a shame.

I don't care how many people can't handle the Scientific Method
because it conflicts with their ideas about "Truth".

Read this carefully; the Scientific Method IS NOT ABOUT "Truth".

And stop limiting followups to groups I don't frequent (I'm posting
from sci.electronics.design).

Mark L. Fergerson