Driver to drive?

Douglas O'Neal · Jan 21, 2005

Aunty Kreist wrote:

Since Christianity is actually a minority, compared to other world
religions, the buy-bull can't be considered any sort of authority; it does
not apply to the majority of the humans in this world.

So can you name any "authority" that is recognized by over 50% of the
world's population or are you proposing that there does not exist any
authority?

Also, does one need to acknowledge an authority before that authority
actually exists? In other words, if I refuse to recognize the IRS (in
the US) just like you refuse to recognize the Bible, does that take away
the authority of the IRS?

John Fields · Jan 21, 2005

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:36:03 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 02:34:49 +0000, Don Klipstein wrote:

In <9gJHd.7514$vC1.3542@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Ahmmm. Someone who unjustifiable takes a life should have his life
taken, imo.

I oppose - who has heard the saying (give or take a bit
word-for-word) "Why should we kill people who kill people in order to say
that killing people is wrong?"

Better still - how about a fate worse than death!

Better still; can you name a better solution for recitivism?

---
I didn't think that repeated recitation was a problem.

--
John Fields

John Woodgate · Jan 21, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that Douglas O'Neal
<oneal@dbi.udel.edu> wrote (in <csrlo9$lc7$1@scrotar.nss.udel.edu&gt

about 'What Is God?', on Fri, 21 Jan 2005:

In other words, if I refuse to recognize the IRS (in
the US) just like you refuse to recognize the Bible, does that take away
the authority of the IRS?

It's a circular question. If you refuse to recognize it, you ipso facto
deny its authority over you. It doesn't take away any authority the IRS
may have over others that do recognize it.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Rene Tschaggelar · Jan 21, 2005

Mark Jones wrote:

So what will the AmeriKan dollar be worth in 4 more years? Anyone?
And to think, some call that "progress." Yeah!

My guess : 40-60% of what it is now.
Well, at least it pays their debt nicely.
Or as the americans put it : it makes them again
credit worthy. Don't think twice - get that money
immediately.

Rene

Rolavine · Jan 21, 2005

Kevin Aylward wrote:

And is perfectly explained by evolution.

Yes, but then again who said that God couldn't be a match maker?

I think God is for people of little faith, I have no limits I worship the
divine accident.

I think I've just seen devil worshippers on the TV though, they were yelling 4
more years.

Rocky

Aunty Kreist · Jan 21, 2005

"Douglas O'Neal" <oneal@dbi.udel.edu> wrote in message
news:csrlo9$lc7$1@scrotar.nss.udel.edu...

Aunty Kreist wrote:

Since Christianity is actually a minority, compared to other world
religions, the buy-bull can't be considered any sort of authority; it
does
not apply to the majority of the humans in this world.

So can you name any "authority" that is recognized by over 50% of the
world's population or are you proposing that there does not exist any
authority?

I don't think there's any authority recognized by that percentage of the
population. Even, as an example, say- Catholics. The modern Catholic church
seems to widely either somewhat ignore, or disregard the opinions and
requests of it's authority- the Vatican. If I had to pick one area that
would earn respect from the world over, I'd have to say it would be science.

Also, does one need to acknowledge an authority before that authority
actually exists? In other words, if I refuse to recognize the IRS (in
the US) just like you refuse to recognize the Bible, does that take away
the authority of the IRS?

I think the difference lays in what is a belief, and what is law. You ignore
the IRS, they'll come and take you down. If you refuse to acknowledge the
Bible, nothing can be done ( yet, although I'm sure it's on Shrub's agenda).

JeffM · Jan 21, 2005

Bush is an uber-moron. All but the likeminded can see this.
Mark Jones

When Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich
say that Dubya is barking up the wrong tree,
something is definitely afoot.
I just can't believe that John McCain bent over for GWB.

Alan Morgan · Jan 21, 2005

In article <slrncv0qi8.oon.don@manx.misty.com>,
Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote:

In <9gJHd.7514$vC1.3542@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Kevin Aylward wrote:

Ahmmm. Someone who unjustifiable takes a life should have his life
taken, imo.

I oppose - who has heard the saying (give or take a bit
word-for-word) "Why should we kill people who kill people in order to say
that killing people is wrong?"

Better still - how about a fate worse than death!

Listening to Anne Coulter for more than 15 minutes?

Alan
--
Defendit numerus

Andrew Holme · Jan 21, 2005

Tom Kupp wrote:

A few years ago, I posted a message asking for ideas for a like the
ones used by the automatic door manufacturer's. I got a great reply
describing one that the poster had disassembled, but no circuit
diagram. I have been able to get back to working on the project, and,
since I am not a degreed engineer, I would like to verify that I
interpreted his description correctly. Unfortunately, the email
address I have for him is no longer valid. If some kind soul could
read the description below, and click the link to check my schematic,
I would be eternally grateful.

The + and - inputs are drawn the wrong way around on the three amplifer
stages.

The final comparator stage is a bit suspect. At the very least, the voltage
divider R6/R7 should not be the same as R1/R2; the default output polarity
will be unpredictable and there could be false triggering. From the
wording, it sounds like centre of R6/R7 should be 1.1V above or below the
bias set by R1/R2 i..e 0.4 or 2.6V.

The low frequency gain of that circuit must be quite high. 12 to 18 inches
ey? I'm curious enough to reach for a breadboard ...

Description:
Here is the explanation of the pet proximity detector where the pet
wears a magnet embedded in a plastic medallion on its collar. I
tested the sensing range to be from 12 to 18 inches. I thought the
use of the relay as a source for an inexpensive coil was clever.
Obviously, the contacts are not used. The front end amplifier
consists of three sections of a LM324 op amp. Each section pretty
much the same. All + inputs are connected to the bias generated from
two resistors that divide the 3V power supply in half. The sense
coil, having a 0.1 uF across it, connects from the bias supply to the
- in of the first amp. The op amps are coupled through 10uF
caps--they each have 3.3Mohm feedback resistors with 0.1uF across
them. The fourth amp is used as the level detector set to detect
approx. 1.1 volt signal. Note: the output DC level is at bias supply
level. You can do what ever you want from there.

Schematic: http://home.twcny.rr.com/kupp/
Thanks!
Tom

David · Jan 21, 2005

arniefufkin wrote:

I'm gonna regret this but...."God" does not exist. "God" is a
theoretical model of the perfect human (notice I didn't say man - women
would have a field day with that one)

Really, "God" (aka perfect human) is a model as a basis for justice.
That which supports the attributes of a perfect human, is the basis for
the protection of law. That which is not the attribute of the perfect
human is punishable by law. Ergo, "God" is only a dividing line (per
se) to determine what is perfect and what is not. What is not perfect
wrong, incorrect, erroneous, ambiguous, illogical, punishable....etc...

Whatever else one chooses to believe is just as theoretical yet does
not exist because it has not manifested itself in law. Ergo, if it does
not exist (because it has not been written down as law) is conjecture.
The bible is not law because it has never been accepted as evidence
since none of it can be proved in the domain of physical existance. At
best, the bible is "spiritual law" not physical law, and therefore none
of it can be proved.

Howzat?

hehehehehehe. I am so wicked!

CB

Time to get out those flame proof pants

John Fields · Jan 21, 2005

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:31:09 -0500, "Aunty Kreist"
<Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:qcb2v0l6urr655l37n3amah3jh6tmpmgo6@4ax.com...
On 20 Jan 2005 21:10:34 -0800, "arniefufkin" <cpmbfilms@yahoo.com
wrote:

I'm gonna regret this but...."God" does not exist. "God" is a
theoretical model of the perfect human (notice I didn't say man - women
would have a field day with that one)

Really, "God" (aka perfect human) is a model as a basis for justice.
That which supports the attributes of a perfect human, is the basis for
the protection of law. That which is not the attribute of the perfect
human is punishable by law. Ergo, "God" is only a dividing line (per
se) to determine what is perfect and what is not. What is not perfect
wrong, incorrect, erroneous, ambiguous, illogical, punishable....etc...

Whatever else one chooses to believe is just as theoretical yet does
not exist because it has not manifested itself in law. Ergo, if it does
not exist (because it has not been written down as law) is conjecture.
The bible is not law because it has never been accepted as evidence
since none of it can be proved in the domain of physical existance. At
best, the bible is "spiritual law" not physical law, and therefore none
of it can be proved.

Howzat?

---
Whether or not any of it can be proved, the bible seems to be a
survival manual which, over the years has been used as the basis for
the creation of man's laws, right or wrong.

--
John Fields

Since Christianity is actually a minority, compared to other world
religions, the buy-bull can't be considered any sort of authority; it does
not apply to the majority of the humans in this world.
---

???

From http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Christianity: 2 billion

Islam: 1.3 billion

Hinduism: 900 million

Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 850 million

Buddhism: 360 million

Chinese traditional religion: 225 million

primal-indigenous: 150 million

African Traditional & Diasporic: 95 million

Sikhism: 23 million

Juche: 19 million

Spiritism: 14 million

Judaism: 14 million

Baha'i: 6 million

Jainism: 4 million

Shinto: 4 million

Cao Dai: 3 million

Tenrikyo: 2.4 million

Neo-Paganism: 1 million

Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand

Rastafarianism: 700 thousand

Scientology: 600 thousand

Zoroastrianism: 150 thousand

--
John Fields

Kryten · Jan 19, 2005

"Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:44:40 GMT, "Kryten"
kryten_droid_obfusticator@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Try your own experiment: gently mist your nostrils with Perrier

How does that help?

and go out there and Sniff.

I think sniffing young ladies is going to get unwelcome results.
A well slapped face at best, a court summons at worst.
Or fatal beatings by their guys.

Why else is it called 'chemistry'?

Because without chemicals like hormones and alcohol we would not bother.

Jim Thompson · Jan 21, 2005

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:20 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

[snip]

From http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

[snip]

Judaism: 14 million

[snip]

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Jan 21, 2005

In <1106343743.567899.251800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, on 01/21/05
at 01:42 PM, "DW" <DrWoodardOnDS@hotmail.com> said:

The term "liberal" gets thrown a lot.
I saw something a while back that I like to cite w
when someone slames liberals.

1. Thank a liberal when you go to the grocery store
and find that it is illegal for them to sell that
peice of meat that went rancid a month ago.
2. Thank a liberal when you go to the emergency room
and they treat your heartt attack right away. There was a time when an
ermergency room could decline treatment if you
couldn't afford it and they would throw you out in the street. So what if
you died.
3. If you're a woman thank a liberal that your
husband can't beat you. Believe it or not there was
a time when it was legal for a husband to beat his
wife in the US.

How do you figure that liberals get the credit for all that?

When 15.5% of your income is forcibly taken from you to fund a retirement
plan that will not be there when you retire, thank a liberal

When you realize that we are in debt for nearly seven trillion dollars,
and our children will never recover from that, thank a liberal.

When someone breaks into you home, steals everything you own, beats you
up, rapes your wife and daughter, and you don't have a gun to defend your
loved ones, thank a liberal.

When you read the paper and it is filled with whining about lost
elections, and disenfranchised voters, thank a liberal.

When you notice a complete lack of civility in a newsgroup, thank a
liberal.

When you 15 year old daughter gets pregnant because the school gave her
boyfriend a defective condom, and she has an abortion without your
consent, thank a liberal.

When you get chastised for calling someone an Indian, rather than a Native
America, even tho there is NO SUCH THING as a native american, thank a
liberal.

When your son's school district graduates him into the world, and he
cannot read or do math, thank a liberal.

When you want to send you child to a school where he can learn and grow,
but you cannot afford it because your money is stolen and given to the
public school system, thank a liberal.

When you want to enjoy the Christmas season, but find that its against the
law to speak about it, thank a liberal.

When you retire, and cannot afford to keep your home because even tho you
own it, you have to pay taxes for the privilege of keeping it, thank a
liberal.

When you see money taken from your pocket, and given someone else, thank
a liberal.

When you are sitting with your young son or daughter watching a sporting
event, and you hear the "f" work, and see punks grabbing their balls and
whipping out their tits, thank a liberal.

When your President is too busy getting a blow job to talk to a world
leader in the phone, thank a liberal.

When you see millions of Mexicans pouring across the border and defiling
our country, thank a liberal.

When your President is more interested in sex than defending your country
from terrorists, thank a liberal.

When you find out that you cannot get a decent job because they are all
outsourced to another country, thank a liberal.

When you spent the last years of your life handing out shopping carts at
Wal Mart, thank a liberal.

When terrorist again attack our country and kill thousands because they
consider us all bunch of pussies, thank a liberal.

Oh, and BTW, If you are lucky enough to be out and about, and you run into
a liberal, don't forget to back up, and run the bastard over again.

Conservatives believe in God.

Liberals think they are God

ParaXerxes · Jan 21, 2005

John Fields wrote:

And you are... not human???

It is others who assume I am...

John Larkin · Jan 21, 2005

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:39:33 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Yes, I understand the credit card debt may be as high as $20K for some
folk.

That's a lot to buy in one month!

Me, I have a mortgage,

Mortgage? What's that?

John

John Fields · Jan 21, 2005

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:45:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Got any "real" numbers?

Hell, I think I count 14 million Jews amongst my friends.

Seriously, between Florida and New York State, there's probably 14
million.

---
Here's a link: http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_judaism.html
--
John Fields

Jim Thompson · Jan 22, 2005

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:46:21 -0700, uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

In <1r63v05a8qqbhlve8ou4m58pkodstddjdb@4ax.com>, on 01/21/05
at 06:20 PM, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> said:
Judaism: 14 million

[snip]

John, Do you ever do order-of-magnitude-rationale checks before you
post?

---
Reality checks? Sometimes I do, but not this time.

Yeah, it looked a little high to me too!^)

Got any "real" numbers?

The "God" of the internet, or at least "he who knows all," that being
Google, says that the Jewish population of the earth is estimated at 13 to
14 million.

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Noah Roberts · Jan 22, 2005

Aunty Kreist wrote:

"Noah Roberts" <nroberts@dontemailme.com> wrote in message
news:10v0nllrtle3j26@corp.supernews.com...

Aunty Kreist wrote:

just doing you the service of showing you all what a nutjob Fields is.

And we are indebted to you for your forsight and providing us with such
educational material indeed.

Hee hee! I aim to please.

Riddle me this: What sound does a turd make when it falls out of your
ass and into the toilet?

Answer: *plonk*

Reg Edwards · Jan 22, 2005

asked Mr. Bush why no one had been
held responsible for wrong information about weapons of mass destruction
in Iraq or mistakes made after the US-led war.

=======================

Well, he could hardly say he had been told deliberate lies by the CIA (to
support oft-stated USA intentions in Iraq) because he was not supposed to
know that.

The same tactics are being employed against Iran and N.Korea.

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