Driver to drive?

[Mike]

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:45:23 -0400, Mike Monett wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:

Phil Hobbs wrote:

[...]


Limiters can be bipolar, unipolar, or offset--neither of these things has
anything to do with the shape of the histogram, just the location of the
peaks. And it's the histogram that determines whether a noise source is
Gaussian.

Negative. There are no peaks in the output of a limiter. Look at the output of
a FM IF in full limiting on Gaussian noise. It switches between two levels at
random intervals. The output is a square wave with random period and random
duty cycle. The average value is halfway between the two levels.

He was talking about a histogram on the output of a limiter, which
_does_ have peaks -- exactly two, centered on the upper and lower
limits. And that ain't Gaussian.

No, the output of a limiter is a binomial distribution as I point out below. But he is
not talking about a limiter. If you look at the waveform he posted earlier, he showed two
peaks with a flat spot in between. That is not a limiter. It looks more like a zero cross
detector in a MFM or RLL read channel.

You're not talking about the same thing, Mike. The distribution function of
a binary limiter output has two values, as Phil says. You're looking at
sequences of values in the binary limiter output - a much different thing.

Neither of which is a Gaussian distribution on amplitude.

The logic output is a binomial distribution, of course. And if you add a low-pass filter
to the output, you will get a Gaussian amplitude distribution with the wings truncated.

Now you're solving yet another problem. Directly above, you specify that
the output of a limiter has a fixed amplitude with a random time between
transitions. That's much different that the problem you present here, in
which you have now implicitly (if not explicitly) sampled the limiter
output.

This is too simple to be arguing about

It's far more complex than you think.

-- Mike --

 

[ChrisGibboGibson]

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I* translated it through Babblefish, it is still unintelligible. Not about
Electronics either.

Thanks for the second giggle of the evening.

Gibbo

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Clarence wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:02:42 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:11 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:


"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote in
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Which can all be flushed trough the toilet, right? Drop
dead, dipshit. Thanks, Frank.

Another insightful commentary form Frank(ly) Bemelman to
contribute to the betterment of the world!

Yeah, Frank's composition style has really developed of late.
Who do you think he's been getting lessons from? John

You are asking Clarence? Pathetic- what a mercenary whore of
self-aggrandizement you are!

It's a newsgroup, Fred. It's a game, it ain't Life. John


He still doesn't get it. It's all ego for him. He has his bubble
burst and hasn't seen it yet.

How would know?- You are too chickenshit to take your head of the sand

and see your opposition. I do agree there's no bursting your bubble- but
bubble is a good description of you and your hollow interior. Your
entire presence here is just a shrill staccato of specious Karl Rove
campaign slogans- every single one of which has been proven false by
those nasty things called *facts* and *reality*. You are quite the
pathetic little loser and cheat.

 

[Clarence]

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:32:31 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

Go fuck yourself and
perform a pre-emptive strick on your own person.

Very elegantly put. You really have a way with words, Frank.
John
Wow, and he even miss-spelled "strike", he's really coming unhinged!

Noticed that myself too. I have this wireless keyboard made by Microsoft.
Sometimes it picks up interference from my USB memory card reader.

My sincere apologies for making the spelling error. You gain 10 points
for spotting the spelling error. 100 points and you will get a free
bag of 100 BC556 transistors.

A prize as useless as your opine? Wow!

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:40:26 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

Except that the people the US is killing mostly deserve it.

This is the attitude of a murderer. It's just that simple.

They actually go looking for it.

Well, they went as far as their front lawn, where the invaders
are.

Those Iraqis with RPGs are not your average Iraqi citizen.

Well, actually, they are. They're ordinary people, fighting
for their survival against a ruthless, heartless, killing
machine.

Don't forget who invaded where here.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Clarence]

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Gibbo
I* translated it through Babblefish, it is still unintelligible. Not
about Electronics either.

The text is presented as 5 jpg graphic pictures. How did you translate
that?

Copy paste. Only the first two paragraphs.

 

[ChrisGibboGibson]

"peterken" wrote:

"Theta1 would be the angle between Vr and Vc and this would be 90o"

ONLY 90o at resonance frequency remember....

What ?

Could you clarify that statement. In the hope that in doing so you will realise
how stupid it is and save someone else the bother of telling you.

Gibbo

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:10:02 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:55:10 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:59:45 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



John Larkin wrote:



I'd like to see him choose to educate himself,


By sitting at the knee of older and wiser people, like Barbara
Streisand for example?

John



You could learn a thing or two from her.



Like arrogance? [1]

John

[1] free and obvious shot graciously supplied.


Arrogance would be a common reaction of any normal person upon meeting
the likes of you.



The thing I like so much about you, Fred, is your absolute
predictability.

John


It's called unwavering and consistent, a strong character trait.

More of the same! Admirable.

John

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:08:00 +0200, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> schreef in
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 02:22:59 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

Now, some simple questions:

Do you believe Iraq is a better place now, compared to the situation
before the invasion?


No. But it might be, some years from now.

I understand that doctors sometimes or even often need to hurt a
patient for their own good. But that really doesn't apply here.
This is all guess work. Iraq was already on it's way to a better
place, Saddam getting older, UN having a foot between the
door, etcetara.

And I suppose that, when you explain to the people you're purging,
"Oh, you have to be killed for the good of the country," they're
supposed to understand and lay down for you? Or, maybe in your
excuse for a mind, go joyfully to the slaughter?

Fuck that right now, thank you very much.
Rich

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> schreef in bericht
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You're talking about being better off with the US military removed,
right?

It would not be a good idea to remove the military, not now, with
the mess created.

I don't know how the situation could be improved. I have ideas
about it, but I am not convinced. Part of the idea is remove all
arms, get the guys to wear new clothes in a different color, and
paint all vehicles white. Distribution of free food and medical
supplies as a priority task. Faster repairs of infrastructure.
And slowly retreat as progress is made. But I am not an expert.

--
Thanks, Frank.
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[John Larkin]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:49:02 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

The UN is a debating society. IT DOES NOT DECIDE ANYTHING. IT HAS NO AUTHORITY!

It's a debating society no longer. It's a profit center.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/13/opinion/13safi.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fWilliam%20Safire


John

 

[Clarence]

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:49:02 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

The UN is a debating society. IT DOES NOT DECIDE ANYTHING. IT HAS NO
AUTHORITY!

It's a debating society no longer. It's a profit center.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/13/opinion/13safi.html?n=Top%2fOpinion%2fEditorials%20and%20Op%2dEd%2fOp%2dEd%2fColumnists%2fWilliam%20Safire

John

Some see it as an opportunity to personal gain.

 

[Frank Bemelman]

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MORE SPAM and a possible Virus. Don't fall for it.
normal website written in a foreign language so me,
being a peasant, can't read it.
Gibbo
I* translated it through Babblefish, it is still unintelligible. Not
about Electronics either.

The text is presented as 5 jpg graphic pictures. How did you translate
that?


Copy paste. Only the first two paragraphs.

How do you copy and paste text from a graphic image? Can you copy
and paste the text here?

--
Thanks, Frank.
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[Frank Bemelman]

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> schreef in bericht
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:10:18 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> schreef
in
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:48:12 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:


"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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snip

You are so incredibly stupid that you can't understand that one
can
be
against Saddam and also against an invasion. There is no black or
white.

Drop dead, you anonymous turd of shit in your country of freedom.
--
Thanks, Frank.
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More insightful color blind commentary from the illustrious
Bemelman.

He artistry in insults has no peer, nor does any intelligent person
seek
to
equal his wit!



Yes, there's definitely an evolution going on here. Interesting.

Only interesting? No fun?


Resorting to poopoo insults: how would that be fun?

Don't ask me. You seemed to be the expert

The expert on fun, that is.


--
Thanks, Frank.
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[Clarence]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:57 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:03:01 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

No, but if he was murdering innocent people and I told him to stop and he
continued, I might empty my S&W into him!
---
And you're fit to be judge, jury, and executioner???
Guess again.
---
Since you are too dense to understand. Why do you continue to draw
attention
to yourself?
---
John Fields

BTDT, No charges filed. If you are defending the innocent, your not
committing
a crime. Not a Guess....
---
Damn, but you're a dumb shit. Stupid too...

You can't think or use the written language properly, and yet you
presume to have the capacity for unilaterally determining innocence
and guilt and meting out appropriate 'punishment' for what you
consider to be transgressions against your sensibilities?

Better you should turn that S&W on yourself...

So if you came upon a couple pulled from their car and being beaten by three
thugs you would drive by and ignore them?
I didn't think of that!
I wouldn't think of that!

You have no legitimate comeback, so like Fred Bloggs you resort to foul
language? You are no doubt a registered Democrat and have other bad habits.

You lack much in the way of manners and civility.
Since you are SO judgmental, you lack standing to criticize.
The police kept my S&W. I have a GLOCK now. (My insurance replaced it)
So you do not understand law, morals, or common decency. What else are is
beyond your keen? other than polite conversation and civility. We covered
those earlier.

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:06:22 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:55:25 -0500, John Fields wrote:

A 'pre-emptive strike' to excise a cancer which has been allowed to
grow, unchecked, for decades is a bad thing?

Yes, John Fields. A pre-emptive strike is a bad thing, regardless
what excuse you give, because it is nothing but murder.

Rationalize it all you want - you're the one that's going to have
to face your own judgement one day.

May God have mercy on your soul.

---
Save your mealy-mouthed passive-aggressive bullshit for someone who
gives a shit, Rich.

As far as I'm concerned, if I see a mad dog heading my way and I've
got a gun in my hand, guess what? I'm going to blow that son of a
bitch away before he even gets a _chance_ to bite me. And you? I
guess you'd just sit there hoping that he wouldn't notice you, and
then, when he had his jaw clamped firmly on your throat, start
thinking about ways to make him quit? Good luck, dog meat!

--
John Fields

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:04:05 +0000, Clarence wrote:

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:40:26 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

Except that the people the US is killing mostly deserve it.

This is the attitude of a murderer. It's just that simple.

They actually go looking for it.

Well, they went as far as their front lawn, where the invaders
are.

Those Iraqis with RPGs are not your average Iraqi citizen.

Well, actually, they are. They're ordinary people, fighting
for their survival against a ruthless, heartless, killing
machine.

Don't forget who invaded where here.

Thanks,
Rich


Yea, I got ants in my kitchen too. Same-o-same-o

I'm sorry, but the US marines wreak a lot more death and destruction
in Iraq's kitchen than your ants do in yours.

The marines are the invaders.

By supporting the neonazi warmongers in the republican party, you are
accessory to murder.

Thank you,
Rich

 

[Jonathan Kirwan]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:56:58 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

snip
I've wondered whether Iraq is the breeding ground, or the flypaper of
Islam militants.

Whatever else it may also be, it appears that it is also becoming a training
ground for those interested in learning about US tactics and developing methods
to deal with them. Early on, this will almost certainly mean a winnowing away
of many who really have no competence against the US. But over time, I fear,
this will change and those who remain alive and fighting will become very much
better and we will have helped act as their "continuing education" teachers
about our own tactics and tools. Eventually, a new equilibrium will be reached
and time will work even less in our favor than it already does.

In short, time isn't on our side.

Jon

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:18:20 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

I liked the P38.
Saw a lot of them at the training base.
Flew half a mile to one side of my house when landing.

The P38 was a double-action Walther 9mm semi-automatic pistol commonly
issued to German troops during WW2. They don't fly - unless you throw
them.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 11:36:52 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

My favorite plane was the Spitfire. I have a book full of specs and
mechanical drawings that I found in a ratty little bookstore in
Oxford.

Oh don't start me off! The raspy gurgle of that 27 litre Merlin engine
in the skies over sunny southern England still brings a tear to my eye
and a lump to my throat. <gulp!>
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.