Driver to drive?

Sell:
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In order to develop the oversea market, we are current seeking new partners around the world to create a bright future together. ZhaoWei is a right choice and excellent partnership with sincere services.

Company: Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co., Ltd
URL: http://www.zwgearbox.com/
Contact: Anny Liu
Tel:+86-755-27322652
Fax:+86-755-27323949
E-mail:sales@zwgearbox.com
Add: Blk. 18, Longwangmiao Industry Park, Fuyong Tn., Bao’an Dist., Shenzhen 518103, Guangdong, China
 
Sell:
China Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co. Ltd engages in designing, manufacturing and marketing all kinds of electric motors. They are mainly suitable for the following applications: smart home application used in smart kitchen and laundry, medical instrument for personal care, smart E-transmission applied in automobile, industry automation applied in telecommunication and a great variety of plastic/metal planetary gearbox in different sizes.
In order to develop the oversea market, we are current seeking new partners around the world to create a bright future together. ZhaoWei is a right choice and excellent partnership with sincere services.

Company: Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co., Ltd
URL: http://www.zwgearbox.com/
Contact: Anny Liu
Tel:+86-755-27322652
Fax:+86-755-27323949
E-mail:sales@zwgearbox.com
Add: Blk. 18, Longwangmiao Industry Park, Fuyong Tn., Bao’an Dist., Shenzhen 518103, Guangdong, China
 
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 13:14:18 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

Since the window is west facing, the awning has to descend throughout
the afternoon, and is only retracted once the sun sets. At that point
the sensor above the window ceases to be in sunlight, which triggers the
complete retraction of the awning.

assuming you have good discrimination against cloud.
 
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:25:07 AM UTC-8, DaveC wrote:
I need to replace a cable (16-conductor, 28-ish awg, stranded, shielded) on
an industrial machine.

I can't find any rubber-insulated cables (a la SJ or SO cables). How
resistant will PVC-jacket be to oil?

As a material, PVC is certainly oil resistant. A cable jacket, though, can
be PVC-based and still have fillers or plasticizers that are oil-intolerant.
You need to find a manufacturer's data sheet to be sure.
 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:25:01 -0800, DaveC <not@home.cow> Gave us:

I can’t find any rubber-insulated cables (a la SJ or SO cables). How
resistant will PVC-jacket be to oil?

Thanks.

THHN or Teflon
 
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Company: Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co., Ltd
URL: http://www.zwgearbox.com/
Contact: Anny Liu
Tel:+86-755-27322652
Fax:+86-755-27323949
E-mail:sales@zwgearbox.com
Add: Blk. 18, Longwangmiao Industry Park, Fuyong Tn., Bao’an Dist., Shenzhen 518103, Guangdong, China
 
ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics, Your Trustworthy Supplier!
Founded in 1997, Shenzhen ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics Company, with a history of 20 years from R & D to production, owns more than 200 high precision processing equipment including Sumitomo injection molding machines, Swiss Agie wire cutting machines, Agie electric spark machines, Makino, FANUC, RODERS etc. and 40 automatic assembly lines. After 20 years of technical precipitation, Created the first brand of intelligent driving industry.
Zhao Wei develops and manufactures a series of planetary gearbox including 6mm planetary gear box, 10mm planetary gear box, 12mm planetary gear box, 16mm planetary gear box, 20mm planetary gear box, 22mm powder metallurgical planet gear box, 24mm planetary gear box, 28mm planetary gear box, car headlights adjusting gear box and auto throttle controller gear box,etc.
The gear is a mechanical device that transmits motion and power in the planetary gear box. It has a long history. It has many advantages, such as high speed ratio range, high transmission power, high reliability, long life and so on.
Planetary gear box is widely used in mechanical transmission of important parts, after years of hard work and continuous exploration, ZhaoWei planetary gear box have been widely used in auto parts, intelligent kitchen, household appliances, medical equipment, communications equipment, industrial equipment, instrument and meter, model aircraft, robot, a human care, security camera, digital electronics and other industries.
With 20 years professional design, development and production, provide you with one-stop service from design simulation to the production. ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics, you are worthy of trust!

Company: Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co., Ltd
URL: http://www.zwgearbox.com/
Contact: Anny Liu
Tel:+86-755-27322652
Fax:+86-755-27323949
E-mail:sales@zwgearbox.com
Add: Blk. 18, Longwangmiao Industry Park, Fuyong Tn., Bao’an Dist., Shenzhen 518103, Guangdong, China
 
On Friday, March 12, 1999 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, BOB URZ wrote:
This is an off beat idea, but I want to see if it would work. I am
trying to power high power 12 volt
audio amps off of a electric gold cart. They have 6 volt battery stack
for 36 volt total.
These amps draw up to 20 amps peak. I would like to feed them more
voltage than the
12.6 they are getting.

Many telephone systems use nominal 48V power, so there are commercial
DC/DC converters that will handle 36-to-60V input and give you 12V,
or 15V, or whatever.
This one is 12V, 350W:
<http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/AVE360-48S12-4/454-1587-ND/4474410>
 
On Friday, 13 November 2015 21:35:43 UTC, whit3rd wrote:
On Friday, March 12, 1999 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, BOB URZ wrote:

This is an off beat idea, but I want to see if it would work. I am
trying to power high power 12 volt
audio amps off of a electric gold cart. They have 6 volt battery stack
for 36 volt total.
These amps draw up to 20 amps peak. I would like to feed them more
voltage than the
12.6 they are getting.

Many telephone systems use nominal 48V power, so there are commercial
DC/DC converters that will handle 36-to-60V input and give you 12V,
or 15V, or whatever.
This one is 12V, 350W:
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/AVE360-48S12-4/454-1587-ND/4474410

I'm sure he much appreciates the feedback 16 years later :)

I noticed no-one in what remains of the thread picked up on the 'diodes drop 0.6v' error. They do at one very low current, above that Vf goes up plenty.


NT
 
In article <c594efbc-fdde-4568-8e37-43cc13936136@googlegroups.com>,
whit3rd@gmail.com says...
On Friday, March 12, 1999 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, BOB URZ wrote:
This is an off beat idea, but I want to see if it would work. I am
trying to power high power 12 volt
audio amps off of a electric gold cart. They have 6 volt battery stack
for 36 volt total.
These amps draw up to 20 amps peak. I would like to feed them more
voltage than the
12.6 they are getting.

Many telephone systems use nominal 48V power, so there are commercial
DC/DC converters that will handle 36-to-60V input and give you 12V,
or 15V, or whatever.
This one is 12V, 350W:
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/AVE360-48S12-4/454-1587-ND/4474410

But when they ring, its around 100V AC.

Jamie
 
I found this at rec.audio.pro
Thought it may be of interest here

On 11/12/2015 9:26 PM, Jason wrote:
There is a GNU project to support development of software-defined
radios. Part of it comprises a graphical interface that allows
creating the DSP code that's at the heart of SDR. What has this to
do with this newsgroup's focus? Simply that the development tool
is really a way to construct just about any ol' DSP application
you want, including those for audio use. One does this by
connecting together functional blocks that represent code and data.
The interface includes a LOT of pre-defined algorithms for such
things as FFT analysis, filter construction etc. I found it worth
a glance:

http://hackaday.com/2015/11/11/getting-started-with-gnu-radio/
 
ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics, Your Trustworthy Supplier!
Founded in 1997, Shenzhen ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics Company, with a history of 20 years from R & D to production, owns more than 200 high precision processing equipment including Sumitomo injection molding machines, Swiss Agie wire cutting machines, Agie electric spark machines, Makino, FANUC, RODERS etc. and 40 automatic assembly lines. After 20 years of technical precipitation, Created the first brand of intelligent driving industry.
Zhao Wei develops and manufactures a series of planetary gearbox including 6mm planetary gear box, 10mm planetary gear box, 12mm planetary gear box, 16mm planetary gear box, 20mm planetary gear box, 22mm powder metallurgical planet gear box, 24mm planetary gear box, 28mm planetary gear box, car headlights adjusting gear box and auto throttle controller gear box,etc.
The gear is a mechanical device that transmits motion and power in the planetary gear box. It has a long history. It has many advantages, such as high speed ratio range, high transmission power, high reliability, long life and so on.
Planetary gear box is widely used in mechanical transmission of important parts, after years of hard work and continuous exploration, ZhaoWei planetary gear box have been widely used in auto parts, intelligent kitchen, household appliances, medical equipment, communications equipment, industrial equipment, instrument and meter, model aircraft, robot, a human care, security camera, digital electronics and other industries.
With 20 years professional design, development and production, provide you with one-stop service from design simulation to the production. ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics, you are worthy of trust!

Company: Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co., Ltd
URL: http://www.zwgearbox.com/
Contact: Anny Liu
Tel:+86-755-27322652
Fax:+86-755-27323949
E-mail:sales@zwgearbox.com
Add: Blk. 18, Longwangmiao Industry Park, Fuyong Tn., Bao’an Dist., Shenzhen 518103, Guangdong, China
 
ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics, Your Trustworthy Supplier!
Founded in 1997, Shenzhen ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics Company, with a history of 20 years from R & D to production, owns more than 200 high precision processing equipment including Sumitomo injection molding machines, Swiss Agie wire cutting machines, Agie electric spark machines, Makino, FANUC, RODERS etc. and 40 automatic assembly lines. After 20 years of technical precipitation, Created the first brand of intelligent driving industry.
Zhao Wei develops and manufactures a series of planetary gearbox including 6mm planetary gear box, 10mm planetary gear box, 12mm planetary gear box, 16mm planetary gear box, 20mm planetary gear box, 22mm powder metallurgical planet gear box, 24mm planetary gear box, 28mm planetary gear box, car headlights adjusting gear box and auto throttle controller gear box,etc.
The gear is a mechanical device that transmits motion and power in the planetary gear box. It has a long history. It has many advantages, such as high speed ratio range, high transmission power, high reliability, long life and so on.
Planetary gear box is widely used in mechanical transmission of important parts, after years of hard work and continuous exploration, ZhaoWei planetary gear box have been widely used in auto parts, intelligent kitchen, household appliances, medical equipment, communications equipment, industrial equipment, instrument and meter, model aircraft, robot, a human care, security camera, digital electronics and other industries.
With 20 years professional design, development and production, provide you with one-stop service from design simulation to the production. ZhaoWei Machinery & Electronics, you are worthy of trust!

Company: Shenzhen ZHAOWEI Machinery & Electronics Co., Ltd
URL: http://www.zwgearbox.com/
Contact: Anny Liu
Tel:+86-755-27322652
Fax:+86-755-27323949
E-mail:sales@zwgearbox.com
Add: Blk. 18, Longwangmiao Industry Park, Fuyong Tn., Bao’an Dist., Shenzhen 518103, Guangdong, China
 
On 19/11/15 14:45, Bill Bowden wrote:
> Are these batteries good? Seems cheap for an 8 amp-hour Li-Ion battery

They lie. The very best 26650 Li-Ion are the Panasonic NCR cells, which
are about 5000mAH. The Ultrafire cells would be typically 1/3 of that,
or 1600mAH. Likewise all the other *fire Chinese brands (TrustFire,
SureFire, CatchOnFire, etc).

Furthermore, there's a whole industry repackaging dead cells scavenged
from old equipment.

Clifford Heath.

.. You
get two for $7.77 plus $2 shipping, or maybe $5 apiece..


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-26650-8000mAh-3-7v-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Battery-Cell-For-Electric-Tools-/111819891266?hash=item1a08fc2242:g:AfoAAOSw14xWKZ1t


DESCRIPTION:
Quantity:2
Standard voltage is 3.7V,
the voltage of full charge & empty condition is 4.2v & 2.5v respectively
Particularly suitable for flashlight, electric tools, electric bicycles,
electric vehicles
Capacity: 8000mAh
Voltage: 3.7V
Material: Li-ion
Max Charge voltage: 4.20 Ąŕ 0.05V
Dimension: 67 mm (H)x 26 mm (Dia)
Color:Green

Package included:
2x UltraFire Green 26650 8000mAh Batteries








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On 19/11/2015 1:45 PM, Bill Bowden wrote:
Are these batteries good? Seems cheap for an 8 amp-hour Li-Ion battery. You
get two for $7.77 plus $2 shipping, or maybe $5 apiece..


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-26650-8000mAh-3-7v-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Battery-Cell-For-Electric-Tools-/111819891266?hash=item1a08fc2242:g:AfoAAOSw14xWKZ1t


DESCRIPTION:
Quantity:2
Standard voltage is 3.7V,
the voltage of full charge & empty condition is 4.2v & 2.5v respectively
Particularly suitable for flashlight, electric tools, electric bicycles,
electric vehicles
Capacity: 8000mAh
Voltage: 3.7V
Material: Li-ion
Max Charge voltage: 4.20 Ąŕ 0.05V
Dimension: 67 mm (H)x 26 mm (Dia)
Color:Green

Package included:
2x UltraFire Green 26650 8000mAh Batteries








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Chinese mAH are about as well defined as the currency.

It seems that even the better ones quote figures which should be mWH,
not mAH. At 3.7 volts, it makes a difference of a factor 3.7, which
seems about right.
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:45:06 -0800, the renowned "Bill Bowden"
<bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:

Run away. The capacity is certainly way overstated.

Also, typically this type of supplier will cheaply airmail their
shoddy lithium cells by lying about the package contents.

It's only a matter of time before an aircraft is taken down by this
kind of B.S.


--sp


Are these batteries good? Seems cheap for an 8 amp-hour Li-Ion battery. You
get two for $7.77 plus $2 shipping, or maybe $5 apiece..


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-26650-8000mAh-3-7v-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Battery-Cell-For-Electric-Tools-/111819891266?hash=item1a08fc2242:g:AfoAAOSw14xWKZ1t


DESCRIPTION:
Quantity:2
Standard voltage is 3.7V,
the voltage of full charge & empty condition is 4.2v & 2.5v respectively
Particularly suitable for flashlight, electric tools, electric bicycles,
electric vehicles
Capacity: 8000mAh
Voltage: 3.7V
Material: Li-ion
Max Charge voltage: 4.20 Ąŕ 0.05V
Dimension: 67 mm (H)x 26 mm (Dia)
Color:Green

Package included:
2x UltraFire Green 26650 8000mAh Batteries








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Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition: http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8
Microchip link for 2015 Masters in Phoenix: http://tinyurl.com/l7g2k48
 
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:04:46 +1000, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
wrote:

On 19/11/15 14:45, Bill Bowden wrote:
Are these batteries good? Seems cheap for an 8 amp-hour Li-Ion battery

They lie. The very best 26650 Li-Ion are the Panasonic NCR cells, which
are about 5000mAH. The Ultrafire cells would be typically 1/3 of that,
or 1600mAH. Likewise all the other *fire Chinese brands (TrustFire,
SureFire, CatchOnFire, etc).

Furthermore, there's a whole industry repackaging dead cells scavenged
from old equipment.

Clifford Heath.

No I think you exaggerate. I have never seen a *fire cell deliver 1/3 of
the printed capacity - I think it is normally even less!

Seriously to the OP, avoid *fire brands like the plague, apart from the
dodge capacity labels most of them don't last long either. They will
probably be the most expensive batteries you evet buy in terms of total
power delivered and it will let you down when you need it most.


. You
get two for $7.77 plus $2 shipping, or maybe $5 apiece..


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-26650-8000mAh-3-7v-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Battery-Cell-For-Electric-Tools-/111819891266?hash=item1a08fc2242:g:AfoAAOSw14xWKZ1t


DESCRIPTION:
Quantity:2
Standard voltage is 3.7V,
the voltage of full charge & empty condition is 4.2v & 2.5v respectively
Particularly suitable for flashlight, electric tools, electric bicycles,
electric vehicles
Capacity: 8000mAh
Voltage: 3.7V
Material: Li-ion
Max Charge voltage: 4.20 Ąŕ 0.05V
Dimension: 67 mm (H)x 26 mm (Dia)
Color:Green

Package included:
2x UltraFire Green 26650 8000mAh Batteries








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Someone who claims to be into technology should be able to quote more
than one level. Most of this stuff is a repeat of its prior post.

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On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Nov 2015 01:46:11 -0800) it happened mike
ham789 netzero.net> wrote in <n2k5m5$udv$1 dont-email.me>:

I have two identical flashlights.
One has a *fire battery, the other has a cell retrieved from a
very old and very dead
laptop battery pack. The *fire light is dimmer from the outset.
I only use the *fire light when I can't find the other one
and it still gets charged about twice as often.

I bought two brand new, still in the shrink wrap, 4000maH Ultrafires
and a charger for 25-cents at a garage sale.
After using them, I want my quarter back.
And the charger charges two in parallel. If you insert cells with very
different state of charge, sparks ensue. I never left it in that condition,
so I don't know how warm things would get.

Well I really do not know,
2 years ago I posted this here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sci.electronics.design/Re$3A$209V$20Battery$20or$202$20x$20AAA$20with$209V$20Converter|sort:relevance/sci.electronics.design/DbgPnYXfGcY/KndUBmUUj7AJ
(scroll down, it says:):
"
here one of my flashlights, with battery out:
http://panteltje.com/pub/Cree_rechargable_flashlight_IMG_4478.JPG
Li-ion, rechargeable, 3.7V 3.2Ah, LED, has several brightness stages,
flashing mode too, came with charger.
I have several smaller Cree ones, those all have Eneloop AAA those,
and will still work a year after charging.
All ebay stuff.
The big Cree has as defect that it melted the plastic around the LED
when I left it on to test how long the battery lasted.
Now the beam looks a bit different...
"
So it delivered a real amount of power for a long time, the flashlight melted,
the batteries are still OK.
Fixed the flashlight, it was not properly assembled....
So far I have no complaints.
Since I took out the spare utra-fire battery just now,
I am recharging it in all by itself in that 2 x charger you mention
and that is still on.
No smoke from that area yet..
It was at 3.85 V, but OK..

Yes, sure I read those stories in the news of people getting burned to death or something using Li-ion or whatever...
There is one in every laptop?
Batteries is a consumable, I have plenty more problems with lead acid, be it sealed or
just normal car batteries, than with these Li-ions or lipos.

It is important that the flashlight works for a reasonable amount of time if you have not used it.

Since I DO use it more often .. I dunno, but this spare battery I am charging now
was still near almost? full, and that was a bad one.

I have eneloops in a smaller LED flashlight, those work OK too,
and are used several times a day, for example for inspection of stuff.

If yer life depends on it, then you need to keep several flashlights maybe with several battery technologies,
a fire maker, drinking water, gun to shoot deer, and of course your cellphone
to call for help.. ;-)

I do not normally buy at flee markets....
ebay is much better.

And that is my experience.

Maybe somebody should measure discharge times....
Maybe somebody has.

Still it may be different for different batches / sources.
 
"Bill Bowden" <bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:

> Are these batteries good?

You need to exercise extreme discretion. Think "brand-name" and
"reputable seller". That is a no-brainer when buying such items from
Fleabay. Even so when buying from Amazon, Amazon allows counterfeit
sellers left and right.
 
On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:35:09 +1000) it happened "David Eather"
<eather@tpg.com.au> wrote in <op.x8b94vrlwei6gd@phenom-pc>:

No I think you exaggerate. I have never seen a *fire cell deliver 1/3 of
the printed capacity - I think it is normally even less!
Seriously to the OP, avoid *fire brands like the plague, apart from the
dodge capacity labels most of them don't last long either. They will
probably be the most expensive batteries you evet buy in terms of total
power delivered and it will let you down when you need it most.

Well, do you actually have one?

Here is mine, now in use for almost 2 years:
http://panteltje.com/pub/ultra_fire_batteries_and_flashlight_IMG_5158.JPG

And watch how well protected these are:
http://panteltje.com/pub/utra_fire_protected_against_almost_everything_IMG_5162.JPG

The flashlight melted at some point, but the batteries are still going strong.

I have not checked the capacity, but it sure did not go out prematurely,
One of these batteries that came with that flashlight has a bit more self-discharge, so I kept the good one in the flashlight,
and the bad one as spare, check the charge every now and then, came with charger too that actually works.

And I have no fear keeping this in my pocket.

And I'm sure it came by plane, how long does a steam boat from China take?


You aussies suffer from hanging upside down, Spero para-noia

ANYTHING can go wrong at any time, your chances of pilot error are bigger than from fire batteries.

;-)

My spell-sker insists aussies is spelled as pussies
 

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