Driver to drive?

[Zurab57]

On Oct 24, 8:32 pm, E Z Peaces <c...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

RichD wrote:
Here's one that keeps me awake at
night: why do they put mirrors on elevator
ceilings?

--
Rich

Security.

I don'tunderstend your language well. It's my 3-rd language. I only
want to solve puzzles sometimes.

 

[john]

On Oct 23, 9:49 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:

john wrote:
On Oct 23, 8:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 4:55 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax  <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
  John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well.  Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.
Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.
john
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc
All of Adamski's info from them
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.
Adamski's case is typical of contactees and the BS they are fed.
There has not been a single instance of scientific, technological,
mathematical or philosophical insight from the "craft" or "aliens".
Where they have made pronouncements on the "unknown" they are invariably
shown to be wrong.
Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.
There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.
Then its a pretty scrappy future populated by second rate SciFi characters.
--
Dirk
More of the same, you mean?

The point being, Humans in their present form won't be around in 100
years. Those "aliens" must be cosmic retards.

--
Dirk

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I know, and all that crap about
Cosmic consciousness and
love and such.
And the way they don't make sounds!!
They use telepathy. Retarded!!

And let's not forget the anal probes and forced breeding programs.

Why, then, everyone would know the truth!
How stupid is that!

The truth being that they have more in common with poltergeists than
"aliens". And that they adapt to our (or Billybob's) expectations.

And the idea of using gravity screening to fall from one
place to another! Just dumb!

Yes, it is.
For reasons you would not understand.

--
But you do understand gravity??

Wonderful.
Please explain it to us, Dirk.

john

 

[Rich Webb]

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:13:53 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
<dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:

john wrote:

I know, and all that crap about
Cosmic consciousness and
love and such.
And the way they don't make sounds!!
They use telepathy. Retarded!!
And let's not forget the anal probes and forced breeding programs.

Why, then, everyone would know the truth!
How stupid is that!
The truth being that they have more in common with poltergeists than
"aliens". And that they adapt to our (or Billybob's) expectations.

And the idea of using gravity screening to fall from one
place to another! Just dumb!
Yes, it is.
For reasons you would not understand.

--
But you do understand gravity??
Wonderful.
Please explain it to us, Dirk.

Not problem.
Here's GR, which currently explains every observation of gravitational
phenomena from time dilation in GPS satellites to energy loss in binary
neutron star systems. Not a single observation has falsified it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity

Well, there's this recent one. http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.3853

Granted, the cautious bet would be a systemic error. It's a good paper,
insofar as I'm qualified to judge (er, not very far, actually) but their
results are a 98% confidence level. Mythical-supernatural-entity-bless
experimentalists. Be interesting to see if independent observations find
anything.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:13:53 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:

john wrote:

I know, and all that crap about
Cosmic consciousness and
love and such.
And the way they don't make sounds!!
They use telepathy. Retarded!!
And let's not forget the anal probes and forced breeding programs.

Why, then, everyone would know the truth!
How stupid is that!
The truth being that they have more in common with poltergeists than
"aliens". And that they adapt to our (or Billybob's) expectations.

And the idea of using gravity screening to fall from one
place to another! Just dumb!
Yes, it is.
For reasons you would not understand.

--
But you do understand gravity??
Wonderful.
Please explain it to us, Dirk.
Not problem.
Here's GR, which currently explains every observation of gravitational
phenomena from time dilation in GPS satellites to energy loss in binary
neutron star systems. Not a single observation has falsified it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity

Well, there's this recent one. http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.3853

Granted, the cautious bet would be a systemic error. It's a good paper,
insofar as I'm qualified to judge (er, not very far, actually) but their
results are a 98% confidence level. Mythical-supernatural-entity-bless
experimentalists. Be interesting to see if independent observations find
anything.

Well, there are a few possible contradictions including different speeds
for very high energy gamma rays. However, there is not enough data
collected to be definitive and when GR has been in this situation before
it has always been vindicated. Wait and see.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

 

[Wolf K]

john wrote:

On Oct 21, 4:54 pm, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
[...]
This was the same Adamski who claimed that the far side of the
moon had trees and mountains with snow-capped peaks? That he
had snacked on Venusian plants? That dude?

Homet was familiar with Adamski's claims and I can't find any
pictures of the petroglyph in question. Is it beyond the realm
of possibility that Homet faked the finding?

Alan
--
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Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john

Where are the original field notes and photographs?

Just asking.

wolf k.

 

[Wolf K]

john wrote:

On Oct 21, 4:48 pm, Rich Grise <richgr...@example.net> wrote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:10:40 -0700, john wrote:
[soneone wrote:]
Next you'll be telling us the transistor was reverse engineered from
Roswell!
No, we're not to 'next' yet, Dirk.
Tell me how someone hoaxes publishes the
same complex diagram that will not be dug up
for ten years and in both appearances
it is connected with extraterrestrial humans?
Two hoaxes?

Marcel Homet was a widely-travelled doctor of
archaeology, and author whose book containing his
pictures of all the petroglyphs I read back before computer fakery.

Even before digital imagery it was easy to fake photographs.

There were plenty of pictures- see "Sons of the Sun(?)
by Marcel Homet
I'm pretty sure he showed these rocks to others who would
probably be able to determine if he had just recently carved
them with his little scout knife.

And which others were these? And why haven't they come forward and
tetsified to what they saw?

I'm sure after the effort it takes getting to some
of those places in Brazil, he would be in good enough shape to do that
after supper. As would you, I'm sure.

john

Weak sarcasm, weaker logic.

Wolf k.

 

[Wolf K]

john wrote:
[...]

Is this a fantasy?
http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2009/uk2009ci.shtml
This is a picture of a crop circle 2 months ago.
Nice, eh?
Does this contain any scientific information?
Is it from off-planet or from some force/intelligence on or within
the planet?
Browse through all the other pictures.
Pretty impressive work, no?

john

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

etc and so on and so forth.

BTW, it's no accident that these crop circles show up in such numbers in
England. The Brits have a long tradition carefully constructed practical
jokes. When these joke take in earnest idots, the joke is even funnier.
I know, I half-Brit myself.

Heheh.

wolf k.

 

[Wolf K]

john wrote:
[...]

Is this a fantasy?
http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2009/uk2009ci.shtml
This is a picture of a crop circle 2 months ago.
Nice, eh?
Does this contain any scientific information?
Is it from off-planet or from some force/intelligence on or within
the planet?
Browse through all the other pictures.
Pretty impressive work, no?

john

PS: I've been to the Rollright Atones myself, many times, the first time
when I was 8 or 9 years old. Why do you think the hoaxers picked that
site in particular?

wolf k.

 

[Wolf K]

Zurab57 wrote:

On Oct 24, 8:32 pm, E Z Peaces <c...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
RichD wrote:
Here's one that keeps me awake at
night: why do they put mirrors on elevator
ceilings?
--
Rich
Security.

I don'tunderstend your language well. It's my 3-rd language. I only
want to solve puzzles sometimes.

"invalid at invalid" made a joke. Allusive, elliptical, and obscure, but
it really is a joke.

Trust me.

;-)

wolf k.

 

[Wolf K]

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

The biggest argument against the ET Hypothesis is Transhumanism.
http://www.humanityplus.org/learn/philosophy/faq#answer_19

The alleged ETs are just *too* primitive technologically.
http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?m=1

Their technology is about the the level that a scientific illiterate is
able to imagine.

wolf k.

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

Wolf K wrote:

john wrote:
[...]
Is this a fantasy?
http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2009/uk2009ci.shtml
This is a picture of a crop circle 2 months ago.
Nice, eh?
Does this contain any scientific information?
Is it from off-planet or from some force/intelligence on or within
the planet?
Browse through all the other pictures.
Pretty impressive work, no?

john

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

etc and so on and so forth.

BTW, it's no accident that these crop circles show up in such numbers in
England. The Brits have a long tradition carefully constructed practical
jokes. When these joke take in earnest idots, the joke is even funnier.
I know, I half-Brit myself.

Heheh.

wolf k.

Well, all they have to do is show an authenticated crop circle photo
with a Mandelbrot Set taken before (say) 1950.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

Wolf K wrote:

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
The biggest argument against the ET Hypothesis is Transhumanism.
http://www.humanityplus.org/learn/philosophy/faq#answer_19

The alleged ETs are just *too* primitive technologically.
http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?m=1



Their technology is about the the level that a scientific illiterate is
able to imagine.

wolf k.

Before the Wright brothers flew there were a spate of airship sightings,
reflecting "ultramodern" technology (by 19th century standards).

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

 

[Richard Heathfield]

In
<623574b8-3948-495f-80e9-413f0e215015@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
RichD wrote:

<snip>

Who or what is Stone?

The Stones are a family of authors (much like the Brontes, although
not as famous), the youngest and most celebrated of whom, Arthur J
Stone, wrote a horror novel that had a certain vogue in the 1970s and
which may have influenced the writers of cheap dial-a-vampire TV
genre renderings of the 1990s and 2000s. Stone's most famous novel
(and probably the most famous of /any/ Stone novel), it was full of
werewolves zombies and ghouls and ghasts and ghosts and vampires and
various other undead nasties and was, not surprisingly, entitled
"Blood!".

This family of authors is perhaps less well-known than it truly
deserves to be (for example, I can find no Wikipedia entry for /any/
of them) because they found it remarkably difficult to stick to
publishing deadlines. Some authors can (or could) get away with this,
such as Douglas Adams. But others can't. Publishers tend to have
limited attention spans, and will only wait for so long before
dismissing the absent manuscript from their minds and moving on to
something more profitable (i.e. present).

Even Arthur J suffered from this difficulty with deadlines; his copy
editor was the very soul of patience, but even she found the wait for
his novel to be filled with frustration. As she said at the time,
"it's like trying to get Blood out of a Stone".

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line vacant - apply within

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

RichD wrote:

On Oct 22, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's the same type of thing - people want to
believe in unsolvable mysteries, they want
unanswerable riddles. Human nature, what
can ya do?
http://www.michaelshermer.com/weird-things/
Speaking of riddles, what does a woman say after
she's been sexually gratified?
(spoiler below)
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v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
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(spoiler below)
I figured you wouldn't know.
Here's one that keeps me awake at
night: why do they put mirrors on elevator
ceilings?
Never watched Stone's movie, The Doors?

Missed that one, fortunately or unfortunately.

Who or what is Stone?

--
Rich

Oliver Stone
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101761/

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=V2WM3KW6

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

 

[RichD]

On Oct 22, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's the same type of thing - people want to
believe in unsolvable mysteries, they want
unanswerable riddles. Human nature, what
can ya do?
http://www.michaelshermer.com/weird-things/
Speaking of riddles, what does a woman say after
she's been sexually gratified?

(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)

I figured you wouldn't know.

Here's one that keeps me awake at
night: why do they put mirrors on elevator
ceilings?

Never watched Stone's movie, The Doors?

Missed that one, fortunately or unfortunately.

Who or what is Stone?

--
Rich

 

[Albert van der Horst]

In article <7k8us7F38udkaU1@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
RichD wrote:
On Oct 16, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
[...]
I don't know why people are so willing to believe these things.

Because it's more fun than boring old science...
wondering and speculating is more exciting than knowing.
[...]

Only if you don't know anything.

The best argument against UFOs being spacecraft is that the technology
demonstrated in "contacts" is so utterly primitive.

One of the great jokes is that a spacecraft that has
conquered light years is to crash suddenly and fatally
at Rosswel US.

Dirk

Groetjes Albert

--
--
Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

george wrote:

On Oct 25, 1:57 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:

Before the Wright brothers flew there were a spate of airship sightings,
reflecting "ultramodern" technology (by 19th century standards).

And before that they had sightings of angels and priests floating about

Exactly.
Whatever the phenomenon is, it tracks the expectations, hopes and fears
of the zeitgeist.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show

 

[george]

On Oct 25, 1:57 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Before the Wright brothers flew there were a spate of airship sightings,
reflecting "ultramodern" technology (by 19th century standards).

And before that they had sightings of angels and priests floating about

 

[Sam Wormley]

john wrote:

On Oct 24, 4:58 pm, Wolf K <weki...@sympatico.ca> wrote:


BTW, it's no accident that these crop circles show up in such numbers in
England. The Brits have a long tradition carefully constructed practical
jokes. When these joke take in earnest idots, the joke is even funnier.
I know, I half-Brit myself.

Heheh.

wolf k.

r u blind AND dumb?
those farmers couldn't draw that on a piece of
paper in a month if you gave them
all their own French curves.

You would be surprised, John.

The bent over centers are so
perfectly flat and at the same level
that they all reflect the sunlight
identically.

Too bad you can't see the crop circles close up, John
each pixel on your display represent many centimeters.

r u blind AND dumb???

 

[john]

On Oct 24, 4:58 pm, Wolf K <weki...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

john wrote:

[...]

Is this a fantasy?
http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2009/uk2009ci.shtml
This is a picture of a crop circle 2 months ago.
Nice, eh?
Does this contain any scientific information?
Is it from off-planet or from some force/intelligence on or within
the planet?
Browse through all the other pictures.
Pretty impressive work, no?

john

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6vP8-SbU0

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

etc and so on and so forth.

BTW, it's no accident that these crop circles show up in such numbers in
England. The Brits have a long tradition carefully constructed practical
jokes. When these joke take in earnest idots, the joke is even funnier.
I know, I half-Brit myself.

Heheh.

wolf k.

r u blind AND dumb?
those farmers couldn't draw that on a piece of
paper in a month if you gave them
all their own French curves.

The bent over centers are so
perfectly flat and at the same level
that they all reflect the sunlight
identically.

r u blind AND dumb???

YES


john