Driver to drive?

In article <66ac378e-0ab7-4fc6-837a-334e96f2acea@z34g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
john <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On Oct 21, 4:54=A0pm, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:

This was the same Adamski who claimed that the far side of the
moon had trees and mountains with snow-capped peaks? =A0That he
had snacked on Venusian plants? =A0That dude?

Homet was familiar with Adamski's claims and I can't find any
pictures of the petroglyph in question. =A0Is it beyond the realm
of possibility that Homet faked the finding?

Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
Click to expand...
I'm unable to find pictures, as I said. All I've been able to find is
drawings of both Adamski's claim and Homet's petroglyph. I'm not claiming
that pictures don't exist.

I'm also wondering if he published these results earlier and Adamski
saw them. It's also possible that other petroglyphs were found prior
to Homet's find and Adamski consciously or unconsciously copied them.

And the far side of the moon still doesn't have forests and snow-capped
peaks.

Buddy.

Alan
--
Defendit numerus
 
In article <7kanqnF37t2baU1@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:


Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john

John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?

And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
Click to expand...
I was wondering about that as well. Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.

Alan
--
Defendit numerus
 
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well. Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.

Alan
--
Defendit numerus

How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.

Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.

john
Click to expand...
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 
RichD wrote:
On Oct 19, Rich Grise <richgr...@example.net> wrote:
It's the same type of thing - people want to
believe in unsolvable mysteries, they want
unanswerable riddles. Human nature, what
can ya do?
http://www.michaelshermer.com/weird-things/
Speaking of riddles, what does a woman say after
she's been sexually gratified?

(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)

I figured you wouldn't know.

Here's one that keeps me awake at
night: why do they put mirrors on elevator
ceilings?


--
Rich


Never watched Stone's movie, The Doors?
Click to expand...

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax  <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:

Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john

  John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?

And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????

I was wondering about that as well.  Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.

Alan
--
Defendit numerus
Click to expand...
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.

Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.

john
 
On Oct 19, Rich Grise <richgr...@example.net> wrote:
It's the same type of thing - people want to
believe in unsolvable mysteries, they want
unanswerable riddles. Human nature, what
can ya do?

http://www.michaelshermer.com/weird-things/

Speaking of riddles, what does a woman say after
she's been sexually gratified?

(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)
v
v
v
v
v
(spoiler below)

I figured you wouldn't know.
Click to expand...
Here's one that keeps me awake at
night: why do they put mirrors on elevator
ceilings?


--
Rich
 
On Oct 21, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know why people are so willing to
believe these things.

Because it's more fun than boring old science...
wondering and speculating is more exciting
than knowing.
[...]

Only if you don't know anything.

The best argument against UFOs being spacecraft
is that the technology demonstrated in
"contacts" is so utterly primitive.
Click to expand...
My favorite is how they manage to
navigate 10 million light years to
earth, then fly around to secretly
explore the planet in their cloaking
device, except they forget to turn
off the parking lights, and get spotted...


--
Rich
 
RichD wrote:
On Oct 21, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know why people are so willing to
believe these things.

Because it's more fun than boring old science...
wondering and speculating is more exciting
than knowing.
[...]

Only if you don't know anything.

The best argument against UFOs being spacecraft
is that the technology demonstrated in
"contacts" is so utterly primitive.

My favorite is how they manage to
navigate 10 million light years to
earth, then fly around to secretly
explore the planet in their cloaking
device, except they forget to turn
off the parking lights, and get spotted...
Click to expand...

They're Democrats.


--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
 
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax  <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
  John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well.  Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.

Alan
--
Defendit numerus

How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.

Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.

john

Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc

All of Adamski's info from them
Click to expand...
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.

Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.

There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.


john
 
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well. Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.
Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.
john
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc

All of Adamski's info from them
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.
Click to expand...
Adamski's case is typical of contactees and the BS they are fed.
There has not been a single instance of scientific, technological,
mathematical or philosophical insight from the "craft" or "aliens".
Where they have made pronouncements on the "unknown" they are invariably
shown to be wrong.

Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.

There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.
Click to expand...
Then its a pretty scrappy future populated by second rate SciFi characters.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 
On Oct 22, 4:55 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax  <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
  John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well.  Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.
Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.
john
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc

All of Adamski's info from them
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.

Adamski's case is typical of contactees and the BS they are fed.
There has not been a single instance of scientific, technological,
mathematical or philosophical insight from the "craft" or "aliens".
Where they have made pronouncements on the "unknown" they are invariably
shown to be wrong.

Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.

There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.

Then its a pretty scrappy future populated by second rate SciFi characters.

--
Dirk
More of the same, you mean?
Click to expand...
:)
 
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 4:55 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well. Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.
Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.
john
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc
All of Adamski's info from them
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.
Adamski's case is typical of contactees and the BS they are fed.
There has not been a single instance of scientific, technological,
mathematical or philosophical insight from the "craft" or "aliens".
Where they have made pronouncements on the "unknown" they are invariably
shown to be wrong.

Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.
There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.
Then its a pretty scrappy future populated by second rate SciFi characters.

--
Dirk
More of the same, you mean?
:)
Click to expand...
The point being, Humans in their present form won't be around in 100
years. Those "aliens" must be cosmic retards.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 
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john wrote:
On Oct 23, 8:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 4:55 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well. Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.
Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.
john
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc
All of Adamski's info from them
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.
Adamski's case is typical of contactees and the BS they are fed.
There has not been a single instance of scientific, technological,
mathematical or philosophical insight from the "craft" or "aliens".
Where they have made pronouncements on the "unknown" they are invariably
shown to be wrong.
Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.
There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.
Then its a pretty scrappy future populated by second rate SciFi characters.
--
Dirk
More of the same, you mean?
:)
The point being, Humans in their present form won't be around in 100
years. Those "aliens" must be cosmic retards.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know, and all that crap about
Cosmic consciousness and
love and such.
And the way they don't make sounds!!
They use telepathy. Retarded!!
Click to expand...
And let's not forget the anal probes and forced breeding programs.

Why, then, everyone would know the truth!
How stupid is that!
Click to expand...
The truth being that they have more in common with poltergeists than
"aliens". And that they adapt to our (or Billybob's) expectations.

And the idea of using gravity screening to fall from one
place to another! Just dumb!
Click to expand...
Yes, it is.
For reasons you would not understand.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 
On Oct 23, 8:07 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 4:55 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 12:54 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com
wrote:
john wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:42 am, amor...@xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Morgan) wrote:
In article <7kanqnF37t2b...@mid.individual.net>,
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax  <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
john wrote:
Homet wrote a book and
supplied pictures of
all his 20,000 year old glyphs.
Written in stone, buddy.
john
  John, have you any idea how much out right fraud is published in books?
And he knew they were 20,000 years old because he carbon dated the rock????
I was wondering about that as well.  Given that the only references on the
intertubes appear to be repeats of the same basic (heavily woo-woo) data it
looks like someone is going to have to dig up a dead-tree version of the
findings to resolve this question.
Alan
--
Defendit numerus
How old is any of the glyph
stuff in South America?
Have you seen the Guatemala rock garden?
Columns that taper from several feet at the base
to a foot at the top 20 feet high: 40 wide by 20 deep
and so precisely-placed that they line up perfectly.
Maybe NASA did it 20 years ago, but I doubt it.
Makes no difference.
It wasn't unearthed in recent history until
*after* Adamski published the drawing
on it.
john
Well, taking Adamski at face value, it seems those "aliens" are a bunch
of liars. I favour the Ultraterrestrial hypothesis, which puts UFOs etc
into the paranormal category. See Vallee, Passport to Magonia etc
All of Adamski's info from them
was by hand motions and "telepathy",
so maybe he wasn't that good at it.
Adamski's case is typical of contactees and the BS they are fed.
There has not been a single instance of scientific, technological,
mathematical or philosophical insight from the "craft" or "aliens".
Where they have made pronouncements on the "unknown" they are invariably
shown to be wrong.

Certainly whole other realities could
exist at different frequencies from ours,
if you admit we have one.
There is also the possibility of these being
visits from the future.
Then its a pretty scrappy future populated by second rate SciFi characters.

--
Dirk
More of the same, you mean?
:)

The point being, Humans in their present form won't be around in 100
years. Those "aliens" must be cosmic retards.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Click to expand...
I know, and all that crap about
Cosmic consciousness and
love and such.
And the way they don't make sounds!!
They use telepathy. Retarded!!

Why, then, everyone would know the truth!
How stupid is that!

And the idea of using gravity screening to fall from one
place to another! Just dumb!

Thanks for clearing me up on that.

john
 
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:43:15 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:43:26 -0400, the infamous "Buerste"
"anorton" <anorton@removethis.ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

I am mainly a lurker here, but I could not think of anything more
appropriate for this group.

http://www.break.com/index/shooting-an-anvil-200-feet-in-the-air.html

I want to see some manly men CATCH anvils!

Like the Chinese catch trees?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B3e2yVSa3A

Cheers!
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john wrote:

I know, and all that crap about
Cosmic consciousness and
love and such.
And the way they don't make sounds!!
They use telepathy. Retarded!!
And let's not forget the anal probes and forced breeding programs.

Why, then, everyone would know the truth!
How stupid is that!
The truth being that they have more in common with poltergeists than
"aliens". And that they adapt to our (or Billybob's) expectations.

And the idea of using gravity screening to fall from one
place to another! Just dumb!
Yes, it is.
For reasons you would not understand.

--
But you do understand gravity??
Wonderful.
Please explain it to us, Dirk.
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Not problem.
Here's GR, which currently explains every observation of gravitational
phenomena from time dilation in GPS satellites to energy loss in binary
neutron star systems. Not a single observation has falsified it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity

Now,
Please explain the anal probes, implants and the alien forced breeding
programs with contactees ie "alien rape".
Then provide a critique of Vallee's hypothesis.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 
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