Don't try to splice earphone cables

On 14/11/2010 12:30 AM, Dennis wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
news:8k7f96F524U2@mid.individual.net...
On 13/11/2010 2:37 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
this cable is made of weird rubber,
and the wires aren't even copper or insulated, they're frayed wire in the
same rubber covering,

I've had some success by just pretending I haven't noticed, and soldering
a wire onto them regardless.

Sylvia.

Conductive plastic tinsel?
Probably not in the cases where I've had success.

I think there are variants where there are some real metal strands in
there, together with many non-metal fibres.

Sylvia.
 
Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/11/2010 12:30 AM, Dennis wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in message
news:8k7f96F524U2@mid.individual.net...
On 13/11/2010 2:37 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
this cable is made of weird rubber,
and the wires aren't even copper or insulated, they're frayed wire
in the same rubber covering,

I've had some success by just pretending I haven't noticed, and
soldering a wire onto them regardless.

Sylvia.

Conductive plastic tinsel?



Probably not in the cases where I've had success.

I think there are variants where there are some real metal strands in
there, together with many non-metal fibres.
Correct. The non-copper strands are what provide the strength , but they can
usually burnt away with a lighter or match to make it easier to solder the
wire.
 
On Nov 13, 12:58 pm, "|-|ercules" <radgray...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jeremiah Bullfrog" <jerebull...@gmail.com> wrote
On Nov 13, 3:27 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:





On Nov 13, 1:57 pm, Jeremiah Bullfrog <jerebull...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 13, 2:37 pm, "|-|ercules" <radgray...@yahoo.com> wrote:

After weeks to get my sound isolated earphones, which cut out surrounding noise
perfectly with a bit of music, I ordered an iPod shuffle, a hotel matchbox sized MP3 player.

But to keep my address private I sent it to my old address which redirects to my PO BOX,
I always do that for mail order and on the occasion a courier goes to my old address they
soon work it out and I get them to send it to the PO BOX themselves..

JB HIFI didn't do that, it says order complete and no IPOD... yada yada yada, so I cut
the cables on the Blackberry earphones and the $90 Sound Insulating earphones, well
worth the money!

There's 5 wires! Blackberry uses a smal USB plug so I was trying to plug my SI earphones
into the Blackberry. So I snip further up the cable where it splits into 2 and there's 2 wires
but different colours to the 5 at the base of the cable. OK I'm going to have to hotwire the
earphones and see what gives a signal. So I snip the $90 earphone cable and despite having
stripped 1000 wires with my teeth with 100% record, this cable is made of weird rubber,
and the wires aren't even copper or insulated, they're frayed wire in the same rubber covering,
insulate by a powder coating it seems, I got one wire stripped but no luck. 2 earphones wrecked,
now I have to buy a paper with good ole earplugs and hope I don't get verbally assaulted too badly.

Herc
The Unrecognized Truman under 10 years strong sonic torture.

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On Nov 14, 12:30 am, "Dennis" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote in message

news:8k7f96F524U2@mid.individual.net...

On 13/11/2010 2:37 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
this cable is made of weird rubber,
and the wires aren't even copper or insulated, they're frayed wire in the
same rubber covering,

I've had some success by just pretending I haven't noticed, and soldering
a wire onto them regardless.

Sylvia.

Conductive plastic tinsel?
It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.
 
"Brad" <google1@vk2qq.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 14, 12:30 am, "Dennis" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote in message

news:8k7f96F524U2@mid.individual.net...

On 13/11/2010 2:37 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
this cable is made of weird rubber,
and the wires aren't even copper or insulated, they're frayed wire in
the
same rubber covering,

I've had some success by just pretending I haven't noticed, and
soldering
a wire onto them regardless.

Sylvia.

Conductive plastic tinsel?
It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

Found this very effective BUT slow.................
A Dremel tool with a stainless steel wire wheel attachment works very well.
I found that the stainless wheel works faster and lasts longer than the
carbon steel wheel, with the added advantage that the small pieces of the
wheel brush that wear off during the process are non-magnetic, so they won't
attach to nearby driver magnets (don't need little pieces of wire inside my
EMIMs and EMITs!). Simply remove ~ 1/2" of the insulation, then untwist the
various strands from each other (the Cardas Litz has 3 counterwound layers
of different diameter wire to untwist, do them one at a time) and flatten
them into a flat fan shape. Set the Dremel to about 1/2 of maximum speed and
apply to the coated wire, ensuring that the wheel is ALWAYS turning toward
the ends of the wire (otherwise they will entangle with the spinning wire
wheel and snap off!). 10 seconds on each side of the fanned wire is very
effective at removing the varnish coating without destroying the wires. Then
re-fan the wire in a different direction and repeat the process 2 or 3 times
to ensure that all the wires get stripped. You will be left with nice clean
varnish-free wires, which can then be tinned as usual.

As a test of this method I measured the AC impedance of each of the wires of
the same length at 10kHz using my LCR meter, and found that they all were
very consistent, indicating that I was effectively and consistently removing
the varnish and using all the wires in the bundle.

By the way, the speakers sound terrific! I'm not sure how much of the
improvement was from the litz wire, but it certainly didn't hurt the sound!
 
On Nov 14, 7:38 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 12:30 am, "Dennis" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Sylvia Else" <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote in message

news:8k7f96F524U2@mid.individual.net...

On 13/11/2010 2:37 PM, |-|ercules wrote:
this cable is made of weird rubber,
and the wires aren't even copper or insulated, they're frayed wire in the
same rubber covering,

I've had some success by just pretending I haven't noticed, and soldering
a wire onto them regardless.

Sylvia.

Conductive plastic tinsel?

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.
It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.
 
On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.
You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.
 
On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.
What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?
 
On Nov 14, 1:06 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.

What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?
OK, the headphones would not come with the radio, they would be your
own property and therefore outside the scope of this discussion. The
microphone coiled lead is very likely to use a type of Litz wire for
flexibility. Litz is not designed to be soldered, though it is
possible but tricky. Crimping is the preferred method of connection.
 
On Nov 14, 1:05 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 1:06 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.

What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?

OK, the headphones would not come with the radio, they would be your
own property and therefore outside the scope of this discussion. The
microphone coiled lead is very likely to use a type of Litz wire for
flexibility. Litz is not designed to be soldered, though it is
possible but tricky. Crimping is the preferred method of connection.
So you are now saying that Litz IS used in cb radios. Also, back to
headphones/earphones, does or does not your cb radios have a speaker/
headphone/earphone socket on the back?
 
"Brad" <google1@vk2qq.com> wrote in ...
I assume
that someone who spends every waking hour trying to chat up young
ladies on the cb would also tinker with them to try to impress those
same YL's. It is safe to assume that you added accessories such as
desk microphones and all sorts of headphones and earphones so as your
siblings, parents and later your wife and kids didn't hear what you
were getting up to on the cb. Now THIS lesson is free.

And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.

For the aus.electronics aficionados I have plotted the SIGNAL / CRAP / NOISE ratio of
posts in aus.tv.

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p3&chs=300x100&chd=t:4,40,66&chl=Signal|Crap|Noise&chco=00FF00|FFFF00|FF0000


Herc
 
On Nov 14, 2:09 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
On Nov 14, 1:05 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:



On Nov 14, 1:06 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.

What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?

OK, the headphones would not come with the radio, they would be your
own property and therefore outside the scope of this discussion. The
microphone coiled lead is very likely to use a type of Litz wire for
flexibility. Litz is not designed to be soldered, though it is
possible but tricky. Crimping is the preferred method of connection.

So you are now saying that Litz IS used in cb radios.  Also, back to
headphones/earphones, does or does not your cb radios have a speaker/
headphone/earphone socket on the back?
It is not used *in* the radio, it is used in an *accessory*. I do not
own any CB Radios, but of those on the market - the external speaker
socket may be used with an *optional* external speaker. External radio
speakers most commonly use 13 strand twin-core copper wire, not Litz
wire. It is not recommended to plug headphones into the external
speaker socket due to impedance mismatch and the excessive sound
pressure levels that may be experienced with headphones/earphones.

This lesson is free.
 
On Nov 14, 1:21 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2:09 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:



On Nov 14, 1:05 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 1:06 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.

What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?

OK, the headphones would not come with the radio, they would be your
own property and therefore outside the scope of this discussion. The
microphone coiled lead is very likely to use a type of Litz wire for
flexibility. Litz is not designed to be soldered, though it is
possible but tricky. Crimping is the preferred method of connection.

So you are now saying that Litz IS used in cb radios.  Also, back to
headphones/earphones, does or does not your cb radios have a speaker/
headphone/earphone socket on the back?

It is not used *in* the radio, it is used in an *accessory*. I do not
own any CB Radios, but of those on the market - the external speaker
socket may be used with an *optional* external speaker. External radio
speakers most commonly use 13 strand twin-core copper wire, not Litz
wire. It is not recommended to plug headphones into the external
speaker socket due to impedance mismatch and the excessive sound
pressure levels that may be experienced with headphones/earphones.

This lesson is free.
The reason the lesson is free is because it is value-less. I never
said that Litz was used in CB radios, I said that those years of you
mucking around with cb radios wasn't a total waste of time. I assume
that someone who spends every waking hour trying to chat up young
ladies on the cb would also tinker with them to try to impress those
same YL's. It is safe to assume that you added accessories such as
desk microphones and all sorts of headphones and earphones so as your
siblings, parents and later your wife and kids didn't hear what you
were getting up to on the cb. Now THIS lesson is free.
 
On Nov 14, 2:34 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
On Nov 14, 1:21 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:



On Nov 14, 2:09 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 1:05 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 1:06 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.

What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?

OK, the headphones would not come with the radio, they would be your
own property and therefore outside the scope of this discussion. The
microphone coiled lead is very likely to use a type of Litz wire for
flexibility. Litz is not designed to be soldered, though it is
possible but tricky. Crimping is the preferred method of connection..

So you are now saying that Litz IS used in cb radios.  Also, back to
headphones/earphones, does or does not your cb radios have a speaker/
headphone/earphone socket on the back?

It is not used *in* the radio, it is used in an *accessory*. I do not
own any CB Radios, but of those on the market - the external speaker
socket may be used with an *optional* external speaker. External radio
speakers most commonly use 13 strand twin-core copper wire, not Litz
wire. It is not recommended to plug headphones into the external
speaker socket due to impedance mismatch and the excessive sound
pressure levels that may be experienced with headphones/earphones.

This lesson is free.

The reason the lesson is free is because it is value-less.  I never
said that Litz was used in CB radios,

Actually you did, and I quote "So you are now saying that Litz IS used
in cb radios"


I said that those years of you
mucking around with cb radios wasn't a total waste of time.
Indeed I do not spend my time 'mucking around' as you put it. I spent
my years installing them in helicopters for others to muck around with
them.


 I assume
that someone who spends every waking hour trying to chat up young
ladies on the cb would also tinker with them to try to impress those
same YL's.  It is safe to assume that you added accessories such as
desk microphones and all sorts of headphones and earphones so as your
siblings, parents and later your wife and kids didn't hear what you
were getting up to on the cb.  Now THIS lesson is free.
And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.
 
On Nov 14, 2:02 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2:34 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:



On Nov 14, 1:21 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 2:09 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 1:05 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 1:06 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:52 am, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 11:40 am, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

It's called Litz wire. Gives it strength and flexibility.

It's nice to know that you mucking around with CB radios all these
years has not gone completely to waste.

You never know when to give up, do you? Litz wire is unlikely to be
used in CB radio.

What about in headphones or microphones that are used WITH a cb radio?

OK, the headphones would not come with the radio, they would be your
own property and therefore outside the scope of this discussion. The
microphone coiled lead is very likely to use a type of Litz wire for
flexibility. Litz is not designed to be soldered, though it is
possible but tricky. Crimping is the preferred method of connection.

So you are now saying that Litz IS used in cb radios.  Also, back to
headphones/earphones, does or does not your cb radios have a speaker/
headphone/earphone socket on the back?

It is not used *in* the radio, it is used in an *accessory*. I do not
own any CB Radios, but of those on the market - the external speaker
socket may be used with an *optional* external speaker. External radio
speakers most commonly use 13 strand twin-core copper wire, not Litz
wire. It is not recommended to plug headphones into the external
speaker socket due to impedance mismatch and the excessive sound
pressure levels that may be experienced with headphones/earphones.

This lesson is free.

The reason the lesson is free is because it is value-less.  I never
said that Litz was used in CB radios,

Actually you did, and I quote "So you are now saying that Litz IS used
in cb radios"

 I said that those years of you

mucking around with cb radios wasn't a total waste of time.

Indeed I do not spend my time 'mucking around' as you put it. I spent
my years installing them in helicopters for others to muck around with
them.

  I assume

that someone who spends every waking hour trying to chat up young
ladies on the cb would also tinker with them to try to impress those
same YL's.  It is safe to assume that you added accessories such as
desk microphones and all sorts of headphones and earphones so as your
siblings, parents and later your wife and kids didn't hear what you
were getting up to on the cb.  Now THIS lesson is free.

And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.
We've already established that you have an old caravan in your
backyard full of cb radios where you try to chat to local young ladies.
 
On Nov 14, 12:19 pm, "|-|ercules" <radgray...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Brad" <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote in ...

 I assume
that someone who spends every waking hour trying to chat up young
ladies on the cb would also tinker with them to try to impress those
same YL's. It is safe to assume that you added accessories such as
desk microphones and all sorts of headphones and earphones so as your
siblings, parents and later your wife and kids didn't hear what you
were getting up to on the cb. Now THIS lesson is free.
And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.

For the aus.electronics aficionados I have caused the SIGNAL / CRAP / NOISE ratio of
posts in aus.tv.

Herc
Yes, you have.
 
On Nov 14, 3:15 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.

We've already established that you have an old caravan in your
backyard full of cb radios where you try to chat to local young ladies.
No *we* haven't. You have alleged it, but no facts exist to support
your allegation.
 
On Nov 14, 2:31 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:
On Nov 14, 3:15 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.

We've already established that you have an old caravan in your
backyard full of cb radios where you try to chat to local young ladies.

No *we* haven't. You have alleged it, but no facts exist to support
your allegation.
I obtained photographic evidence and explained what I saw on that
photo to you - and you had no choice but to agree. We both know that
I'm right, don't we?
 
"Brad" <google1@vk2qq.com> wrote ...
On Nov 14, 3:38 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2:31 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 3:15 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.

We've already established that you have an old caravan in your
backyard full of cb radios where you try to chat to local young ladies.

No *we* haven't. You have alleged it, but no facts exist to support
your allegation.

I obtained photographic evidence and explained what I saw on that
photo to you - and you had no choice but to agree. We both know that
I'm right, don't we?
What you *saw* on the photo was correct, and I agreed with that. What
you imagined after that was not agreed and you yourself stated you
could not see inside the 'van, so everything else is supposition on
your part. Indeed much of it was just downright fabrication or
misrepresentation of the few facts you held. I even fed you false
details and you dutifully rehashed them and re-presented them as
facts, like a Murdoch journalist.

I'm surprised you want to go on with this story. Watching it unfold
last time was fascinating and like watching a train wreck in slow
motion. I found it difficult to believe you had no humility and felt
no embarrassment with regard to your behavior. It was only because you
wrote the 'help me Obi Wan Sylvia, you're my only friend' message a
couple of days later that I cut you some slack. Up to that point I was
compiling a file for the Police.

I had already been in contact with my local council and confirmed that
there had been no FOI requests regarding my property (your claims were
therefore bullshit) , and I had visited the local police and enquired
about applying for a warrant charging you with stalking. Once I read
you email to Sylvia I understood your frame of mind at that time I
ceased all action. You came very close indeed.

-----------------------------------------------

You don't have a sufficient case to get a stalking charge made,
you need to show each of the 4 conditions to qualify that stalking occured.

1/ The alleged stalker caused you feelings of apprehension - Oh Dear! *tick*
2/ The alleged stalker communicated with you - GASP! *tick*
3/ The alleged stalking occured on more than one occasion! Persistent Bastard! *tick*
4/ You've got a good rack! *cross*

Each of these stringent criteria must be met! Otherwise the police receptionist won't
give you a tour of all the bonus options like a free week lock up at the watch house, just sign here!


Herc
 
On Nov 14, 3:38 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2:31 pm, Brad <goog...@vk2qq.com> wrote:

On Nov 14, 3:15 pm, Coach <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

And from that point on you assumed wrong several times and just talked
a lot of crap and noise.

We've already established that you have an old caravan in your
backyard full of cb radios where you try to chat to local young ladies.

No *we* haven't. You have alleged it, but no facts exist to support
your allegation.

I obtained photographic evidence and explained what I saw on that
photo to you - and you had no choice but to agree.  We both know that
I'm right, don't we?
What you *saw* on the photo was correct, and I agreed with that. What
you imagined after that was not agreed and you yourself stated you
could not see inside the 'van, so everything else is supposition on
your part. Indeed much of it was just downright fabrication or
misrepresentation of the few facts you held. I even fed you false
details and you dutifully rehashed them and re-presented them as
facts, like a Murdoch journalist.

I'm surprised you want to go on with this story. Watching it unfold
last time was fascinating and like watching a train wreck in slow
motion. I found it difficult to believe you had no humility and felt
no embarrassment with regard to your behavior. It was only because you
wrote the 'help me Obi Wan Sylvia, you're my only friend' message a
couple of days later that I cut you some slack. Up to that point I was
compiling a file for the Police.

I had already been in contact with my local council and confirmed that
there had been no FOI requests regarding my property (your claims were
therefore bullshit) , and I had visited the local police and enquired
about applying for a warrant charging you with stalking. Once I read
you email to Sylvia I understood your frame of mind at that time I
ceased all action. You came very close indeed.
 

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