Comcast Dropping Usenet

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http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I'm gonna miss these two groups more than most.

Thanks for all the help over the last 15+ years.
 
Well, it'll give me more free time. But I've enjoyed helping and learning in
this group.
 
In article <X6ydnft3lq8Z_UjVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
nospam <a@b.c> wrote:
http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I'm gonna miss these two groups more than most.

Thanks for all the help over the last 15+ years.
There are other ways of getting news groups than just your ISP providing
them.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 
nospam <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:X6ydnft3lq8Z_UjVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com...
http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I'm gonna miss these two groups more than most.

Thanks for all the help over the last 15+ years.
there are free ones on
motzarella.org
gazeta.pl (down the last couple of days)
datemas.de

posted via motzarella for this one

Google was fine when it was deja vu, crap nowadays

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http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repairs.htm

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"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message news:gb3r3n$j50$1@registered.motzarella.org...
nospam <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:X6ydnft3lq8Z_UjVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com...
http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I'm gonna miss these two groups more than most.

Thanks for all the help over the last 15+ years.



there are free ones on
motzarella.org
gazeta.pl (down the last couple of days)
datemas.de

posted via motzarella for this one

Google was fine when it was deja vu, crap nowadays

--
General electronic repairs, other than TVs and PCs
http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repairs.htm

Diverse Devices, Southampton
Thanks for those references.
 
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:00:47 -0400, mm wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:44:11 -0700, "nospam" <a@b.c> wrote:

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I'm gonna miss these two groups more than most.

Thanks for all the help over the last 15+ years.

Read my sig.
.... if you had one.
 
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:14:00 +0200, Ken wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:44:11 -0700, "nospam" <a@b.c> wrote:

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I'm gonna miss these two groups more than most.

Thanks for all the help over the last 15+ years.


Alternatives
http://groups.google.se/group/sci.electronics.repair/topics
http://groups.google.se/group/sci.electronics.misc/topics
*Not* the best choice -- by far.
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* Killfiling google & XXXXbanter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm
 
In article <48D5AF57.AC697FC@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

nospam wrote:

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I suggest YOU drop comcast.

Graham
I, for one, would love to.

The problem:
What would you suggest I use for connectivity? Satellite is a
non-starter. Dialup? Don't make me laugh... It'd be going over Comcast's
VOIP, and at a higher price than I'm already paying for the internet
connection! Wireless? Not a bad idea - if we had anything that even
resembled line-of-sight to the general vicinity of the only wireless
installation in the area. All factors which conspire to leave me, and
likely quite a few others like me, pretty well hosed.

Ain't communications monopolies great?

--
Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist,
or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow"
somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my
ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more info
 
I suggest YOU drop Comcast.
Other than the fact that Comcast charges too much, I have no complaints --
their customer service is excellent.

But if I dropped Comcast (as Scarlett said) -- Where would I go? What would
I do? Satellite doesn't provide Internet service. * And I can't go back to
dial-up.

Some of the money spent on the Iraq war might have been spent to install a
universal fiber-optic infrastructure. The actual service would be provided
by competing companies, not the government.

* As far as I know. Years ago there was a hybrid satellite system, with a
land connection providing the uploads.
 
On 2008-09-21, William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
But if I dropped Comcast (as Scarlett said) -- Where would I go? What would
I do? Satellite doesn't provide Internet service. * And I can't go back to
dial-up.
Internet service is available via satellite, a friend of mine in a rural
area has it.

I still use dialup. Nothing wrong with dialup, it teaches one the virtue
of patience, and with the right provider it is very inexpensive!

Some of the money spent on the Iraq war might have been spent to install a
universal fiber-optic infrastructure.
I don't really have any interest in having a fiber optic connection to my
home, and do not believe taxpayer dollars should be spent on such a thing.

--
Roger Blake
(Subtract 10s for email. "Google Groups" messages killfiled due to spam.)
 
No alternative at all ? Cable or ADSL, whichever Comcast isn't.
If none then presumably the internet you already have?
The others aren't available in my area.
 
But if I dropped Comcast (as Scarlett said) -- Where would I go? What
would
I do? Satellite doesn't provide Internet service. * And I can't go back
to
dial-up.

Don't you have different carriers and systems like cable vs DSL in the USA
?
Obviously 'outback' may be difficult.
DSL is not available in my area. The phone company uses multiplexed lines
that can't carry high-speed digital.
 
In article <6LudnVL2b_8H8UvVnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@comcast.com>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
DSL is not available in my area. The phone company uses multiplexed lines
that can't carry high-speed digital.
The lines can certainly handle digital. It's how the phone company chooses
to use them that can't. ;-)

--
*If you can read this, thank a teecher

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 
"Roger Blake" <rogblake10@iname10.com> wrote in message
news:slrngdchc4.3t5.rogblake10@otaku.freeshell.org...
On 2008-09-21, William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
But if I dropped Comcast (as Scarlett said) -- Where would I go? What
would
I do? Satellite doesn't provide Internet service. * And I can't go back
to
dial-up.

Internet service is available via satellite, a friend of mine in a rural
area has it.

I still use dialup. Nothing wrong with dialup, it teaches one the virtue
of patience, and with the right provider it is very inexpensive!
There's lots wrong with dialup when you're downloading multi-megabyte files.


Some of the money spent on the Iraq war might have been spent to install
a
universal fiber-optic infrastructure.

I don't really have any interest in having a fiber optic connection to my
home, and do not believe taxpayer dollars should be spent on such a thing.
Yeah, I guess the interstate highways were a really lousy idea, too.
Eisenhower, that damned socialist.
 
In article <48D66323.DECBC4E9@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Don Bruder wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
nospam wrote:

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

I suggest YOU drop comcast.

I, for one, would love to.

The problem:
What would you suggest I use for connectivity?

No alternative at all ? Cable or ADSL, whichever Comcast isn't. If none then
presumably the internet you already have ?

You install a 'news reader' program - the simpler the better IMHO, I use
Netscape
4.8, configure it and hey presto you have news.

Graham
The internet I already have is Comcast. Unless I drop back to the
slow-motion hell of dial-up, or move up to a multi-hundred-bucks-a-month
fractional T line, there simply IS no alternative. (I've looked into
that option, and no matter how I try to diddle the numbers, it just
plain ain't feasible - As a ballpark figure, I'd be laying out something
on the order of 30 grand for the install, and likely waiting for close
to a year for it to happen, before I saw so much as a single byte of
data traveling on it.)

Like I said: Ain't communications monopolies wonderful?

--
Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist,
or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow"
somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my
ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more info
 
On 2008-09-21, William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
There's lots wrong with dialup when you're downloading multi-megabyte files.
I have no need to do that. (Of course others might need that capability
and they would require a faster connection.)

Yeah, I guess the interstate highways were a really lousy idea, too.
Eisenhower, that damned socialist.
The internet is of no real importance. Roads are. (As to whether the
Interstate Highway System was a good idea, or constitutional, that's
a discussion for a different place and time.)

--
Roger Blake
(Subtract 10s for email. "Google Groups" messages killfiled due to spam.)
 
On 2008-09-21, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I have dsl for a year now. WRT email and Usenet, the extra speed
means next to nothing. Its good that webpages are faster, but I used
to dl webpages while reading my email or the newsgroups.
I still do almost everything from a Unix shell, so the extra speed would
not be that important to me. Inexpensive DSL is not available in my area
and I'm too cheap to pay for cable service.

What is nice about dsl is it's easier to play radio; and even tv such
as the political conventions, where it started even earlier than
public tv. But I don't have cable tv
Oh, if cheap DSL were available here I'd probably get it. But to me
the extra speed is just not worth the price of the more expensive-type
broadband connections.

They put in fios here about 3 months ago, and based on the colored
dots on teh grass, it seems at least one of my neighbors has
subscribed. I live in a middle middle income townhose n'hood and I
don't think anyone here can really afford it, but some will buy it.
I have nothing against fiber-optic per se but am not willing to
pay for it. The U.S. is pretty much broke at this point and it's hard
to view that as any kind of priority for the use of public funds.

--
Roger Blake
(Subtract 10s for email. "Google Groups" messages killfiled due to spam.)
 
On 2008-09-21, William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

There's lots wrong with dialup when you're downloading multi-megabyte
files.

I have no need to do that. (Of course others might need that capability
and they would require a faster connection.)

Yeah, I guess the interstate highways were a really lousy idea, too.
Eisenhower, that damned socialist.

The internet is of no real importance. Roads are. (As to whether the
Interstate Highway System was a good idea, or constitutional, that's
a discussion for a different place and time.)
I'm sure lots of people -- including business people -- would strongly
disagree.

Are you still living in the 17th century?
 
In article <sLadnVxX-8xcGkrVnZ2dnUVZ_rDinZ2d@comcast.com>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
The internet is of no real importance. Roads are. (As to whether the
Interstate Highway System was a good idea, or constitutional, that's
a discussion for a different place and time.)

I'm sure lots of people -- including business people -- would strongly
disagree.
Absolutely. A decent data link can reduce the amount of post etc
previously sent by road - and faster and at lower cost.

Whatever the pros and cons of private versus public finance one thing can
be sure, you don't want to let just one private company carry it out -
otherwise they are likely to try and benefit unreasonably from a monopoly
situation.

--
*A backward poet writes inverse.*

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 
In article <gb3ed4ltglt969jhlj59ucpe51bm20rein@4ax.com>,
mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote:
<snippage about signature delimiter>
But WADR I'm not convinced it's true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block says nothing about any
required delimiter.
Except it does--the last paragraph under "Email and Usenet" metions that
it "must be delimited from the body of the message by a single line
consisting of exactly two hyphens, followed by a space, followed by the
end of line...."

<snip again>

http://www.smfr.org/mtnw/docs/Usenet.html says only:
"Avoid long rambling signatures. Keep your sig short and simple.
MT-NewsWatcher encourages the "McQuary limit" for signatures-at most
four lines of at most 80 characters each; if you enter a longer sig in
the Personalities dialog, it will warn you. You cannot enter a sig
longer than 8 lines."
That's because MT-NewsWatcher automatically inserts the delimiter for
you. I know, as I use it and have it insert a signature. (It's a quite
nice newsreader program, by the way.)

I could keep looking, but I have other reasons to think a sig file
needs no delimiter.
It's a long-standing convention in Usenet that the signature should be
preceded by a dash-dash-space delimiter. I guess it's not "needed" in
the sense that you can send a message without one, but there are good
reasons to play along with the accepted rules, too. A great many
newsreaders will automatically trim off signatures thus demarked when
creating a followup message, for example.

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot
 

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