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[Jon Kirwan]

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:47:20 -0700 (PDT), fungus
<tooby@artlum.com> wrote:

On Monday, August 6, 2012 4:10:47 PM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

Pity the President's science advisor chose to engage in jingoistic
crowing about it.

That was the point I switched off and stopped
listening, yes.

When a French reporter asked if the team could talk about
what uniquely important contributions were made by non-USA
partners in the project there was no answer, except for "our
partners worked really well with us." They didn't even answer
the question. But there had been plenty of crowing about all
the very difficult puzzles that had to be successfully solved
to achieve this.

The science advisor did say, without naming countries, that
there were other countries who benefitted from the
partnership with the US, because their science projects were
now safely on Mars. So there was a lot of "taking credit."
The only cudo I heard went to Australia (and "other
partners") who had to participate in the communcations effort
with the mission to bring in the data.

I felt that there was so much success to go around in this
project -- it went almost perfectly -- that it wouldn't have
cost anything at all to have shared this great success with
an open hand. I wish that opportunity had been taken. But it
wasn't. And there is no going back, now.

Jon

 

[fungus]

On Monday, August 6, 2012 4:10:47 PM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

Pity the President's science advisor chose to engage in jingoistic
crowing about it.

That was the point I switched off and stopped
listening, yes.

 

[fungus]

On Monday, August 6, 2012 9:11:04 PM UTC+2, Jon Kirwan wrote:

I felt that there was so much success to go around in this
project -- it went almost perfectly -- that it wouldn't have
cost anything at all to have shared this great success with
an open hand. I wish that opportunity had been taken. But it
wasn't. And there is no going back, now.

It's barf-worthy. It really is.

He should have said a "It's a proud
day for humanity", not a "proud day
for America". I'm sure most Americans
wouldn't have minded.

Imagine if Neil Armstrong had said
"...one small step for (a) man, one
giant leap for America."

Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" bears
repetition.

 

[Jon Kirwan]

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 18:49:07 -0700 (PDT), fungus
<tooby@artlum.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:29:48 AM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

Planetary science is cool, but robots do that just fine. And you don't
have to bring them back home alive.


Plus you don't need all that heavy extra
equipment (oxygen/water supplies, etc)
and you can lower the safety margins on
everything a bit - build three or four
times as many on the same budget.

I really don't understand the obsession
with sending people into Earth Orbit.

Imagine they find life on Mars. It'll
be far more important than *anything*
the ISS ever did.

For the price of one ISS we could have
built dozens of planetary rovers and
space telescopes. Which is more useful?
Does the ISS impress people as much
as the Hubble Images?

Can you imagine how much we could do, exploring the solar
system with robots and craft, with what would be saved had
the US been even just slightly wiser, let alone much wiser,
about its warring idiocy? Or if we actually had real rules in
place with real enforcement behind it for the investment
bankers? (which still has nothing at all done about it.)

It makes me sick to realize how little Curiosity cost and how
many billions in piles of US cash were transported to Iraq
and then completely lost without any trace. And that's just
one item of hundreds, perhaps thousands.

I know for sure where we get more for our dollar.

Jon

 

[fungus]

On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:29:48 AM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

Planetary science is cool, but robots do that just fine. And you don't
have to bring them back home alive.

Plus you don't need all that heavy extra
equipment (oxygen/water supplies, etc)
and you can lower the safety margins on
everything a bit - build three or four
times as many on the same budget.

I really don't understand the obsession
with sending people into Earth Orbit.

Imagine they find life on Mars. It'll
be far more important than *anything*
the ISS ever did.

For the price of one ISS we could have
built dozens of planetary rovers and
space telescopes. Which is more useful?
Does the ISS impress people as much
as the Hubble Images?

 

[T]

In article <lqu028p8nb5fidekqi0uouvhf8l60c2cqu@4ax.com>,
jonk@infinitefactors.org says...

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 18:49:07 -0700 (PDT), fungus
tooby@artlum.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:29:48 AM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

Planetary science is cool, but robots do that just fine. And you don't
have to bring them back home alive.


Plus you don't need all that heavy extra
equipment (oxygen/water supplies, etc)
and you can lower the safety margins on
everything a bit - build three or four
times as many on the same budget.

I really don't understand the obsession
with sending people into Earth Orbit.

Imagine they find life on Mars. It'll
be far more important than *anything*
the ISS ever did.

For the price of one ISS we could have
built dozens of planetary rovers and
space telescopes. Which is more useful?
Does the ISS impress people as much
as the Hubble Images?

Can you imagine how much we could do, exploring the solar
system with robots and craft, with what would be saved had
the US been even just slightly wiser, let alone much wiser,
about its warring idiocy? Or if we actually had real rules in
place with real enforcement behind it for the investment
bankers? (which still has nothing at all done about it.)

It makes me sick to realize how little Curiosity cost and how
many billions in piles of US cash were transported to Iraq
and then completely lost without any trace. And that's just
one item of hundreds, perhaps thousands.

I know for sure where we get more for our dollar.

Jon

I'd estimate that ten years of warfare in Afghanistan and a little less
in Iraq could have paid for an ion driven starship.

We'd at least be on our way to Alpha Centauri by now.

 

[whit3rd]

On Monday, August 27, 2012 11:20:24 AM UTC-7, Anand P. Paralkar wrote:

Hi,



Could you please explain the following points regarding a center tapped

a. Is the center tapped transformer wound differently than a

non-center tapped transformer?

Well, yes. The comments about 'bifilar' windings mean that one would
usually make a center-tapped winding by simultaneously pulling
wire from two spools (color-coded with red and green enamel so you
can tell which is which), and make 200 turns of the core to
get 200 turns green/200 turns red = 400 turns for the winding, after
you connect the two wires to a common 'center tap'.

Actually winding a transformer, there's LOTS of tricks and intermediate steps
that are routinely used according to the frequency, power level, efficiency,
core material... your best bet on getting a good transformer is to give LOTS
of usage notes to the folk who build these for a living.

Few satisfied customers bought off-the-shelf transformers
for critical functions.

 

[fungus]

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 3:49:51 AM UTC+2, John Robertson wrote:

Ten Commandments of Electrical Safety



(1) Beware of the lightning that lurks in an undischarged

capacitor lest it cause thee to be bounced upon thy backside in a

most ungainly manner.

(8) Verily, verily I say unto thee, never service high-voltage
equipment alone, for electric cooking is a slothful process,
and thou might sizzle in thy own fat for hours on end before
thy Maker sees fit to end thy misery and drag thee into His fold.

 

[notbob]

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

 

[Jim Thompson]

On 15 Sep 2012 21:11:25 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

Let me guess... you're in the Democratic Peoples Republic of
Californica or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Oregon ?

I'm giving it to a charity that runs a thrift shop. Maybe someone
will find a use for it.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Charles]

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
news:6js958l36glebb5kh76t337so8litergjf@4ax.com...

On 15 Sep 2012 21:11:25 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

Let me guess... you're in the Democratic Peoples Republic of
Californica or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Oregon ?

I'm giving it to a charity that runs a thrift shop. Maybe someone
will find a use for it.

I'm in the right-wing kingdom of Naples, FL. Here, everyone is rich (except
me) and the thrift shops are VERY choosey. We have a county recycling
center which will accept discarded electronics.

 

[notbob]

On 2012-09-15, Charles <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

me) and the thrift shops are VERY choosey. We have a county recycling
center which will accept discarded electronics.

Likewise, the free recycling center in Berkeley CA. And I live in
neither CA or OR.

The only thing more tiresome than someone who is wrong is someone who
is wrong and pins a political flag on their stupidity.

nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

 

[Michael Black]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Charles wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
news:6js958l36glebb5kh76t337so8litergjf@4ax.com...

On 15 Sep 2012 21:11:25 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

Let me guess... you're in the Democratic Peoples Republic of
Californica or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Oregon ?

I'm giving it to a charity that runs a thrift shop. Maybe someone
will find a use for it.

I'm in the right-wing kingdom of Naples, FL. Here, everyone is rich (except
me) and the thrift shops are VERY choosey. We have a county recycling center
which will accept discarded electronics.

That's not a good situation, but I think your interpreation isn't fair.

A lot of groups get stuck with stuff that doesn't work. People "donate"
it without ever saying whether it works or not, it's a convenient dumping
place. The groups don't have the people around them to assess the
equipment, so they often can't even tell whether the stuff is still of
interest, let alone whether it works.

It's complicated because I want to find electronic junk at rummage sales
and such, I once brought home an eprom programmer that had to be built
from a kit from the local Rotary Club garage sale. I've bought cordless
phones and old big cellphones for parts, so long as the price was low
enough.

But I don't want to buy something with a high price only to discover it
doesn't work (I was really glad to find that Grundig Satellite 700 at a
rummage sale, but wasn't pleased with the battery leakage in there; if I'd
paid more than the 2.00 for it I might have been upset). They also have a
problem if someone like me doesn't come along looking for older stuff or
that eprom programmer. Even consumer stuff, unless someone is looking for
a cassette deck, any that get donated are likely going to just sit around.

If I can find 3GHz computers lying on the sidewalk, I'm certainly not
going to buy a 486 at a rummage sale, yet the groups often don't know
what's what.

And yet at the same time, the minute they start filtering is the minute
things get less interesting. I just found a couple of O'Reilly books
discarded by the big used book sale that doesn't happen until the end of
October. I just happened to be buy on recycling day, and having seen
rumors, I checked. These were the sorts of books I'd be buying at the
sale, and indeed the last two years they pretty much abandoned computer
books. So I actually bought less. That's the same sale where I bought a
fourth edition of the Radiotron Designer's Handbook about 1995 for 2.00
and then found some other technical books of the same vintage at the same
price, one penciled "dated". Yes, they have started to eliminate the
stuff that isnt' mainstream, but that means I'm not buying.

The odd thing, as fewer places take electronic junk, it's not finding its
way to garbage. I'm seeing less and less of it being tossed, I'm assuming
it's going to 'electronic recyling" where I have suspicions that the
collectible stuff isn't noticed (because the people at such centers don't
know the stuff either) and "good" stuff is stripped down for its gold when
there are plenty of parts that we could get out of them. I've also seen
some warnings to suggest that they can't see the point of still useful
computers, they want only the "latest" if they intend to put them into
use.

On the other hand, I've found some interesting stuff in recent years, that
60gig iPod that seems to need a new battery (and thee was a cheap
soldering iron in the box next to it), a Sony 2001 shortwave radio that
seemed complete but no longer attached to the case, some musical effects
boxes, 3 DVRs complete with 320gig harddrives. But I've yet to find a
working computer that has a SATA interface so I can use those hard drives.

Michael

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:42:01 -0400, "Charles"
<charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
news:6js958l36glebb5kh76t337so8litergjf@4ax.com...

On 15 Sep 2012 21:11:25 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

Let me guess... you're in the Democratic Peoples Republic of
Californica or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Oregon ?

I'm giving it to a charity that runs a thrift shop. Maybe someone
will find a use for it.

I'm in the right-wing kingdom of Naples, FL. Here, everyone is rich (except
me) and the thrift shops are VERY choosey. We have a county recycling
center which will accept discarded electronics.

Here, We have _weekly_ pick-up of recyclables and garbage... separate
containers.

In addition we have quarterly hazardous waste "centers" (usually a
close-by city park, where you can take car batteries, antifreeze,
brake/transmission/power steering fluids, degreasers, gasoline/diesel
fuel/additives, used oil, household appliances, etc.

I just drive down the hill to the park, stay in the truck, and guys
decked-out in hazmat clothing empty the truck for me

We also have quarterly "bulk" trash pick-up at the curb... pile your
tree and shrub trimmings at the curb, along with old furniture,
carpeting, bundles of cut-up cardboard boxes, etc.

They come around with a big truck and a miniature end-loader and away
it goes.

We just don't do it fascist-Californica-style >

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Michael Black wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Charles wrote:



"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
news:6js958l36glebb5kh76t337so8litergjf@4ax.com...

On 15 Sep 2012 21:11:25 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

Let me guess... you're in the Democratic Peoples Republic of
Californica or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Oregon ?

I'm giving it to a charity that runs a thrift shop. Maybe someone
will find a use for it.

I'm in the right-wing kingdom of Naples, FL. Here, everyone is rich (except
me) and the thrift shops are VERY choosey. We have a county recycling center
which will accept discarded electronics.

That's not a good situation, but I think your interpreation isn't fair.

A lot of groups get stuck with stuff that doesn't work. People "donate"
it without ever saying whether it works or not, it's a convenient dumping
place. The groups don't have the people around them to assess the
equipment, so they often can't even tell whether the stuff is still of
interest, let alone whether it works.

It's complicated because I want to find electronic junk at rummage sales
and such, I once brought home an eprom programmer that had to be built
from a kit from the local Rotary Club garage sale. I've bought cordless
phones and old big cellphones for parts, so long as the price was low
enough.

But I don't want to buy something with a high price only to discover it
doesn't work (I was really glad to find that Grundig Satellite 700 at a
rummage sale, but wasn't pleased with the battery leakage in there; if I'd
paid more than the 2.00 for it I might have been upset). They also have a
problem if someone like me doesn't come along looking for older stuff or
that eprom programmer. Even consumer stuff, unless someone is looking for
a cassette deck, any that get donated are likely going to just sit around.

If I can find 3GHz computers lying on the sidewalk, I'm certainly not
going to buy a 486 at a rummage sale, yet the groups often don't know
what's what.

And yet at the same time, the minute they start filtering is the minute
things get less interesting. I just found a couple of O'Reilly books
discarded by the big used book sale that doesn't happen until the end of
October. I just happened to be buy on recycling day, and having seen
rumors, I checked. These were the sorts of books I'd be buying at the
sale, and indeed the last two years they pretty much abandoned computer
books. So I actually bought less. That's the same sale where I bought a
fourth edition of the Radiotron Designer's Handbook about 1995 for 2.00
and then found some other technical books of the same vintage at the same
price, one penciled "dated". Yes, they have started to eliminate the
stuff that isnt' mainstream, but that means I'm not buying.

The odd thing, as fewer places take electronic junk, it's not finding its
way to garbage. I'm seeing less and less of it being tossed, I'm assuming
it's going to 'electronic recyling" where I have suspicions that the
collectible stuff isn't noticed (because the people at such centers don't
know the stuff either) and "good" stuff is stripped down for its gold when
there are plenty of parts that we could get out of them. I've also seen
some warnings to suggest that they can't see the point of still useful
computers, they want only the "latest" if they intend to put them into
use.

On the other hand, I've found some interesting stuff in recent years, that
60gig iPod that seems to need a new battery (and thee was a cheap
soldering iron in the box next to it), a Sony 2001 shortwave radio that
seemed complete but no longer attached to the case, some musical effects
boxes, 3 DVRs complete with 320gig harddrives. But I've yet to find a
working computer that has a SATA interface so I can use those hard drives.

Buy a SATA card on Ebay. they are cheap, if you don't need RAID.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:12:36 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Charles wrote:



"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
news:6js958l36glebb5kh76t337so8litergjf@4ax.com...

On 15 Sep 2012 21:11:25 GMT, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

On 2012-09-14, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Useful to anyone, or toss?

Good luck even tossing it. Illegal around here.

nb

Let me guess... you're in the Democratic Peoples Republic of
Californica or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Oregon ?

I'm giving it to a charity that runs a thrift shop. Maybe someone
will find a use for it.

I'm in the right-wing kingdom of Naples, FL. Here, everyone is rich (except
me) and the thrift shops are VERY choosey. We have a county recycling center
which will accept discarded electronics.

That's not a good situation, but I think your interpreation isn't fair.

A lot of groups get stuck with stuff that doesn't work. People "donate"
it without ever saying whether it works or not, it's a convenient dumping
place. The groups don't have the people around them to assess the
equipment, so they often can't even tell whether the stuff is still of
interest, let alone whether it works.

Everything I'm donating is in working order. I'm even including the
manuals and CD's for those that require drivers installs. I either
have duplicates of these accessories or have purchased later models.

The hard-drive that croaked, I dismembered (and found finger prints
:-( Then I took bolt cutters and split the platters ;-)

It's complicated because I want to find electronic junk at rummage sales
and such, I once brought home an eprom programmer that had to be built
from a kit from the local Rotary Club garage sale. I've bought cordless
phones and old big cellphones for parts, so long as the price was low
enough.

But I don't want to buy something with a high price only to discover it
doesn't work (I was really glad to find that Grundig Satellite 700 at a
rummage sale, but wasn't pleased with the battery leakage in there; if I'd
paid more than the 2.00 for it I might have been upset). They also have a
problem if someone like me doesn't come along looking for older stuff or
that eprom programmer. Even consumer stuff, unless someone is looking for
a cassette deck, any that get donated are likely going to just sit around.

If I can find 3GHz computers lying on the sidewalk, I'm certainly not
going to buy a 486 at a rummage sale, yet the groups often don't know
what's what.

And yet at the same time, the minute they start filtering is the minute
things get less interesting. I just found a couple of O'Reilly books
discarded by the big used book sale that doesn't happen until the end of
October. I just happened to be buy on recycling day, and having seen
rumors, I checked. These were the sorts of books I'd be buying at the
sale, and indeed the last two years they pretty much abandoned computer
books. So I actually bought less. That's the same sale where I bought a
fourth edition of the Radiotron Designer's Handbook about 1995 for 2.00
and then found some other technical books of the same vintage at the same
price, one penciled "dated". Yes, they have started to eliminate the
stuff that isnt' mainstream, but that means I'm not buying.

The odd thing, as fewer places take electronic junk, it's not finding its
way to garbage. I'm seeing less and less of it being tossed, I'm assuming
it's going to 'electronic recyling" where I have suspicions that the
collectible stuff isn't noticed (because the people at such centers don't
know the stuff either) and "good" stuff is stripped down for its gold when
there are plenty of parts that we could get out of them. I've also seen
some warnings to suggest that they can't see the point of still useful
computers, they want only the "latest" if they intend to put them into
use.

On the other hand, I've found some interesting stuff in recent years, that
60gig iPod that seems to need a new battery (and thee was a cheap
soldering iron in the box next to it), a Sony 2001 shortwave radio that
seemed complete but no longer attached to the case, some musical effects
boxes, 3 DVRs complete with 320gig harddrives. But I've yet to find a
working computer that has a SATA interface so I can use those hard drives.

Michael

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[fungus]

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:33:11 AM UTC+2, Michael Karas wrote:

I want a TOGGLE switch.

...Jim Thompson

Like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/390469456045

How about a mechanical push button toggle switch?

Yep. This problem is very, very solved.

Look at this product:

http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=30916

It is less than twelve bucks.

eBay has them for a lot less than that:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=audio+speaker+switch

(Or a lot more, if that's what you want...)