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[krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:33:38 -0700, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid>
wrote:

krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:01:42 -0700, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid
wrote:

Gloria West wrote:

From what I've seen, avalanche rectifiers have waned in popularity -
giving ground to MOVs - which in their turn have stared to give way to
SIDACs.

MOVs generally have higher spike quenching capability than avalanche
and are less likely to fail S/C, they can however shatter and arc when
damaged by extreme surges.
Ian Field

Thanks, Ian, for the information. I did not know that MOVs can take the
place of avalanche dioces. I had a difficult time locating avalanche
diodes locally but MOVs I can find and have bought a few.

Ah. After a little clarification, it seems that what you're actually
looking for is a Transzorb:
http://www.vishay.com/diodes/protection-tvs-esd/trans-zorb/

Transorb is one trade name for a TVS diode. I use lots of 'em. They even
come in SC-70s, five per. ;-) They're especially useful if you can get
some
impedance in front of them. Also useful after a polyfuse.

I once worked at a place where they had MOVs all over the place -
MOVs have a soft breakdown curve, and they deteriorate a little bit
with each transient they suppress. When the company muckety-mucks
discovered Transzorbs, they issued ECOs to throw away all the MOVs
and replace them with Transzorbs.

Different component for a different purpose. I don't think I'd use a TVS
diode on the AC entry. ;-)

Nah, these were mostly on inputs of sensors used in a HV ultra-high vacuum
environment with various electron guns, ion guns, x-ray sources, and
secondary electron analyzers and all kinds of kewl stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auger_electron_spectroscopy
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cylindrical%20mirror%20analyzer

No, I meant that TVS diodes and MOVs were two perfectly good components, in
the appropriate application. I agree, using MOVs where a TVS should be used,
as you implied was the case at the PPoE, is dumb. The opposite is also true
(TVSs across the mains).

I was an Engineering Tech, my first job out of the USAF in 1977;
I arranged to get myself fired after my boss quit and they hired
the Fourth Stooge to replace him. ;-)

There's a lot of that going around.

 

[Sjouke Burry]

chris mortin <chrismortin1@gmail.com> wrote in news:7753940c-50ff-4627-
ac19-ca20e2d733cf@f13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:

Hi Friends,

Spamming a bit ? Go jump in a garbage dump.

 

[Kaz Kylheku]

On 2011-09-27, Sjouke Burry <bury@planet.nl> wrote:

Spamming a bit ? Go jump in a garbage dump.

If it were not for your reply, I would not know that the spam existed.

It does not appear on my server---chasing your article's parent reference
in my reader yields nothing.

Please do not post follow-up articles which quote any portion of spam;
by doing that in a public forum, you are helping it spread.

Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2011-09-27, Sjouke Burry <bury@planet.nl> wrote:
Spamming a bit ? Go jump in a garbage dump.

If it were not for your reply, I would not know that the spam existed.

It does not appear on my server---chasing your article's parent reference
in my reader yields nothing.

That's because someone flagged it for removal on the Google groups
news server. The spam was posted through Google Groups, like 95% of all
the spam that shows up on real news servers.

Please do not post follow-up articles which quote any portion of spam;
by doing that in a public forum, you are helping it spread.

How did he help it spread, when he deleted the body of the original
message?

Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Kaz Kylheku]

On 2011-09-29, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.

Your name (assuming it is real) doesn't seem to flag you as a non-native
English speaker such as myself. So it baffles me how you can interpret
my above sentence that way, which in no way appears to asserts any
equivalence between a mailbox and Usenet.

In any case, this is seen in your headers:

X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)

This is seen in my headers:

User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Linux)

So the one confused between mail and news, if anyone at all, would
ironically appear to be you.

 

[Rich Grise]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2011-09-27, Sjouke Burry <bury@planet.nl> wrote:
Spamming a bit ? Go jump in a garbage dump.

If it were not for your reply, I would not know that the spam existed.

It does not appear on my server---chasing your article's parent reference
in my reader yields nothing.

That's because someone flagged it for removal on the Google groups
news server. The spam was posted through Google Groups, like 95% of all
the spam that shows up on real news servers.

Please do not post follow-up articles which quote any portion of spam;
by doing that in a public forum, you are helping it spread.

How did he help it spread, when he deleted the body of the original
message?

Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.

And the next time Michael catches you stealing his watermelons, he's going

to load his 12 ga. with rock salt.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2011-09-29, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.

Your name (assuming it is real) doesn't seem to flag you as a non-native
English speaker such as myself. So it baffles me how you can interpret
my above sentence that way, which in no way appears to asserts any
equivalence between a mailbox and Usenet.

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.

He can be safely disregarded.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Rich Grise wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2011-09-27, Sjouke Burry <bury@planet.nl> wrote:
Spamming a bit ? Go jump in a garbage dump.

If it were not for your reply, I would not know that the spam existed.

It does not appear on my server---chasing your article's parent reference
in my reader yields nothing.

That's because someone flagged it for removal on the Google groups
news server. The spam was posted through Google Groups, like 95% of all
the spam that shows up on real news servers.

Please do not post follow-up articles which quote any portion of spam;
by doing that in a public forum, you are helping it spread.

How did he help it spread, when he deleted the body of the original
message?

Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.

And the next time Michael catches you stealing his watermelons, he's going
to load his 12 ga. with rock salt.

Go smoke more dope, you burnt out old dope. Diabetics shouldn't eat
watermelon because of the sugar, and the only thing I grow is San
Marzano tomatoes to make spaghetti & chili.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Kaz Kylheku wrote:

On 2011-09-29, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.

Your name (assuming it is real) doesn't seem to flag you as a non-native
English speaker such as myself. So it baffles me how you can interpret
my above sentence that way, which in no way appears to asserts any
equivalence between a mailbox and Usenet.

The name is real. Is yours? The fact that English isn't your first
language doesn't excuse your shitty attitude, or the fact that it isn't
a MAILBOX.

In any case, this is seen in your headers:

X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)

Yawn, I know what news client I use, and I've used it since the day
it was released. I like the way it threads messages, and allows me to
archive messages in folders. I've tried a lot of other news clients,
and they all sucked.

This is seen in my headers:

User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Linux)

So the one confused between mail and news, if anyone at all, would
ironically appear to be you.

Ironically, you still don't know the difference between a newsgroup
and E-mail. BTW, you aren't the only one running Linux. I have about a
half dozen distros installed and on bootable CDROMs, but a lot of the
software I use doesn't run well or at all under windows emulation. I
use Puppy Linix to see why computers can't connect to a network, or the
internet. It's small, and loads fast. Then there's Knoppix, with the
OPH bundle of software tools. Unbuntu, with my CNC software. Edubuntu
on the computers at my church that are for local kids who don't have a
computer to do schoolwork. hell, even my wireless router runs Linux.
How ironic that you post through 'eternal-september.org'.


The fact that you didn't see the original post containing the spam
has nothing to do with the choice of news client.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Rich Grise wrote:

Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2011-09-29, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
Isn't there enough spam in your mailbox? Go reply to that.

It's not a mailbox, it's USENET. Learn what the hell you're using
before you try to tell others what to do.

Your name (assuming it is real) doesn't seem to flag you as a non-native
English speaker such as myself. So it baffles me how you can interpret
my above sentence that way, which in no way appears to asserts any
equivalence between a mailbox and Usenet.

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.

You, and your wormn out sock puppets should talk.

He can be safely disregarded.

Yawn.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Rich Grise wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.

This will really get your goat. The marion County Florida Sheriff's
department just busted a grower with 700 pot plants. Some of the plants
they destroyed were over 15 feet tall! Just think of all that pot that
you won't get to smoke.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:17 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.


This will really get your goat. The marion County Florida Sheriff's
department just busted a grower with 700 pot plants. Some of the plants
they destroyed were over 15 feet tall! Just think of all that pot that
you won't get to smoke.

---
Pure hate, Michael.

If someone derives pleasure from, and is lifted above being tawdry by
using something which God provides, why is that wrong?

--
JF

 

[krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:56:30 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:17 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.


This will really get your goat. The marion County Florida Sheriff's
department just busted a grower with 700 pot plants. Some of the plants
they destroyed were over 15 feet tall! Just think of all that pot that
you won't get to smoke.

---
Pure hate, Michael.

If someone derives pleasure from, and is lifted above being tawdry by
^^^^^^
using something which God provides, why is that wrong?

Well, without the lift, that leaves...

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:17 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.


This will really get your goat. The marion County Florida Sheriff's
department just busted a grower with 700 pot plants. Some of the plants
they destroyed were over 15 feet tall! Just think of all that pot that
you won't get to smoke.

---
Pure hate, Michael.

If someone derives pleasure from, and is lifted above being tawdry by
using something which God provides, why is that wrong?

John, I had a low life politician try to frame me for drug dealing,
and I want nothing to do with the crap. I've never used, nor wanted
to. I have all kinds of people trying to get me to take prescription
drugs that aren't mine or to use illegal drugs. I'd rather be in pain.
I don't want to take any medication, but I have little choice about the
Insulin and blood pressure medicine.

The same low life politician stole one of my service trucks, and my
restored red '66 GTO. I got a settlement against him and the SOB that
towed them. I got my vehicles back, and the stir it caused ended up
with him voted out of an office he's held for 20 years. Then he signed
his mattress manufacturing business over to his son soon after, who had
it a very short time before one of them burnt it to the ground. It was
classed as arson, and the investigation showed the books were cooked so
bad that there was no way for it to keep running.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> wrote:

On 2011-09-29, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote:
Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.

As much can be inferred from "@earthlink.net".

That's some statement coming from @eternal-september.org. No PKB there!

 

[Kaz Kylheku]

On 2011-09-29, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.

As much can be inferred from "@earthlink.net".

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:26:09 +0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> wrote:

On 2011-09-29, Rich Grise <richg@example.net.invalid> wrote:
Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about everything.

As much can be inferred from "@earthlink.net".

That's some statement coming from @eternal-september.org. No PKB there!

I guess he has no clue what 'Eternal September' means, or he is a
world class loser at trolling? No matter, since I no longer see his
mindless rants.

Earthink.net is one of the US domains that provides a real broadband
connection (Up to 40 Mb/s) and Usenet access via Giganews for one set
price.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Rich Grise]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about
everything.

This will really get your goat. The marion County Florida Sheriff's
department just busted a grower with 700 pot plants. Some of the plants
they destroyed were over 15 feet tall! Just think of all that pot that
you won't get to smoke.

And how many taxpayer dollars got thrown away destroying a bunch of harmless
weeds?

Aren't we supposed to be trying to stop the astronomical deficit spending?

Did you turn Obammunist when no one was looking?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

Michael's essentially an ornery old coot who just bitches about
everything.

You, and your wormn out sock puppets should talk.

OK. But I thought I already did.

Are you trying to claim you're NOT an ornery old coot who just bitches
about everything?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Go smoke more dope, you burnt out old dope.

Thanks, I think I will!

Not like I need your permission, you ornery old coot.

Cheers!
Rich