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[John Fields]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:44:37 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. The additional weight would be
like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. The real
problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
etc. to be practical for road transportation.

I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.

After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.

---
Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
not scale up for long distances and if you don't have a market for the
production version of the short-run prototype then you're SOL and, if
your marks bought into your hare-brained scheme, all you'll have done
is wasted someone else's time and money.

But that's no skin off your teeth, is it?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:15:45 -0700, Eric R Snow <etpm@whidbey.com>
wrote:

I don't understand why you would state that the lithium batteries are
volatile unless you are thinking that they may harm you. Lithium
batteries do need to be treated differently that other batteries but I
haven't heard of any DeWalt batteries having problems. Lately it seems
that the batteries causing problems are counterfeit. The technology
and the built in safety devices have really improved in the last few
years. There are chips available for OEMs to put into their batteries
that the device using them checks for. This way only approved
batteries will work in the device. Other chips are made that prevent
over charge and discharge.

---
13 July 2012?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:06:23 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:44:37 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. The additional weight would be
like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. The real
problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
etc. to be practical for road transportation.

I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.

After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.

---
Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
not scale up for long distances and if you don't have a market for the
production version of the short-run prototype then you're SOL and, if
your marks bought into your hare-brained scheme, all you'll have done
is wasted someone else's time and money.

---
"all you'll have done is wasted someone else's time and money while
they supported you." is what I meant to say.

But perhaps even "all you'll have done is knowingly wasted someone
else's time and money while they supported you." might be apropos.

JF

 

A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. �The additional weight would be
like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. �The real
problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
etc. to be practical for road transportation.

I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.

After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.

---
Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
not scale up for long distances

Why not?

You need to go back to reading Harliquin romance novels.


Bret Cahill

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. ?The additional weight would be
like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. ?The real
problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
etc. to be practical for road transportation.

I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.

After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.

---
Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
not scale up for long distances

Why not?

---
Oh, I dunno...

Endurance, fuel economy, reliability, price... stuff like that.

If you were more technically astute you'd understand about scaling
errors.
---

You need to go back to reading Harliquin romance novels.

---
What are they?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:14 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
<kaExtractThis@kevinaylward.co.uk> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

hence you haven't shown that new ideas are not due to a random
process.

There are no new ideas in the sense you are using the term.

Of course there are. Lots of them.

Name even just one. You cant.

The speed of light is an invariant.

OK, but that clearly didnt arise thru any random process.

The statement that light is invariant is certainly consistent with a
randomly generated process. The idea is certainly not derivable, so where
did the idea come from?


It is an independent axiom of physics that is not derivable from any
other law of physics.

Yes, but clearly didnt arise thru any random process.

The shrodinger equation of quantum mechanics. It is an independent
axiom of physics that is not derivable from any other law of physics.

OK, but that clearly didnt arise thru any random process.

The Einstien Field equations. For eaxmple,
http://www.kevinaylward.co.uk/gr/index.html, setting the
Stress-Energy or Energy-Momentum Tensor equal to the contracted
Riemann tensor, was guesswork.It is an independent axiom of physics
that is not derivable from any other law of physics.

OK, but that clearly didnt arise thru any random process.

Of course, there are some aspects of these physic laws that are
based and developed on prior ideas, but each one of the above has a
*unique* component,

So does any significant new idea.

that is quite impossible to derive from existing knowledge.

It is educated guess work.

Nope, no guess involved. They did in fact explain what was
unexplainable without them.
That is, *Selection* (non random) of a randomly generated component,

Nope, nothing like that at all on the components.

from which, these non-random selected, random variations are copied
on to generate more derivable information,

Nope, no random variations involved at all. Completely non random in
fact.
from which, new ideas may be randomly generated from etc.

Nope, no randomness present at all.

Its a Darwinian Algorithm.

Nope, nothing like it.


Unfortunately, you simple have not understood anything. Mere denial achieves
nothing for your viewpoint.

Everyone of the above are mathematical concepts that did not exist untill
invented. To quote Einstein:

"Physical concepts are free creations of the human mind, and are not,
however it may seem, uniquely determined by the external world.

You seem to confuse that fact that there is Darwinian Selection going on.
Most randomly generated ideas are filtered first. A bit like white noise
going through a filter, effectively producing an oscillator. This gives the
niave impression, that the new ideas that actually make it through the
filter, are designed by construction, or derivable, becuse you dont get to
see the bad ones.

You really need to think a lot deeper on where new ideas actualy come from.

---
Indeed.

In the dawn of our time, a stretched sinew grabbed at and released
during the slaughter after a successful hunt or, during feeding, would
have emitted a tone/tones which led to the development of all our
present-day stringed instruments.

Initially, a truly random occurrence which one of our ancestors picked
up and capitalized on.

JF

 

A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. ?The additional weight would be
like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. ?The real
problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
etc. to be practical for road transportation.

I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.

After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.

---
Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
not scale up for long distances

Why not?

---
Oh, I dunno...

Not surprising you don't know. It's obvious you never passed any
thermo courses.

Of all the things that are difficult to fake, thermo is the most
difficult of all.

You need to get a Pell grant and get a formal background in thermo.

If you cannot get a Pell grant then write you congressman and tell him
you want a Pell grant.

Otherwise you will be ridiculed as long as you post here.


Bret Cahill

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:43:08 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. ?The additional weight would be
like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. ?The real
problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
etc. to be practical for road transportation.

I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.

After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.

---
Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
not scale up for long distances

Why not?

---
Oh, I dunno...

Not surprising you don't know. It's obvious you never passed any
thermo courses.

---
Geez, snip boy, you deleted the parts which showed that I really _do_
know and was using that line sarcastically.
---

Of all the things that are difficult to fake, thermo is the most
difficult of all.

---
As you proved with that hokey heat exchanger cartoon.
---

You need to get a Pell grant and get a formal background in thermo.

If you cannot get a Pell grant then write you congressman and tell him
you want a Pell grant.

Otherwise you will be ridiculed as long as you post here.

---
Being insulted by you is hardly ridicule, it's more like an invitation
to swat a fly.


JF

 

[Sevenhundred Elves]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:55:11 -0700 (PDT), "rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com"
<rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 14, 6:36 am, Sevenhundred Elves <sevenhund...@elves.invalid
wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:51:03 -0700 (PDT), "rlbell.ns...@gmail.com"



rlbell.ns...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:05 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
The last thing my farmer relatives want to do is waste their
time refueling when doing the field work.

No one ever promised that post peak would be a rose garden.

Maybe algae diesel will work out. That's plan A.

If it doesn't then we need a plan B.

Plan C is oxen.

Bret Cahill

Why do we need algae diesel as a plan A, when there are centuries
worth of synthetic crude to processed from coal?

Centuries? I don't think so.

Quotinghttp://www.worldcoal.org/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=188:

"At current production levels, proven coal reserves are estimated to
last 147 years."

35% of world energy consumption is oil, 25% is coal, as seen on this
piechart :

http://www.worldcoal.org/assets_cm/files/image/coalfacts_piechart_200...

If we, per your suggestion, use coal to produce enough synthetic fuel
to substitute for oil, it's obvious that we are not talking about
"current production levels" for coal anymore, and then the coal
reserves may last perhaps only half of the estimated 147 years.
Probably even less, since the World Coal Institute, which makes this
estimate, is, in its own words, "the Voice of the International Coal
Industry", and the coal industry, just like the oil industry, is
likely to make optimistic estimates about their assets.

S.


The interesting word in that web page is recoverable. The web page
specifically says that nearly all countries have coal deposits, but
only 70 countries have recoverable deposits. If the determination of
whether a coalfield is recoverable is based on price of mining, there
is a world of difference between recoverable reserves and total
reserves. The price of coal is sufficiently low that there are many
unworked deposits in Poland where unemployed people can dig down with
hand tools to fill up a sack to sell in the city.

If the 147 years was for total possible production, I will accept that
I am wrong. If the 147 years of current production assumes that the
price of coal never goes up, so deposits not worked now, will never be
worked, we are figuratively up to our armpits in coal.

I might be able to ask someone who should know (coal mining company
CEO), and if I do get an answer, I will follow up this post.

Please do. Your take on what is meant by "recoverable" was an
interesting point, and one I hadn't thought of. I thought they meant
"recoverable" as in "eventually possible to mine".

S.

 

[David Tweed]

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.... and the number 1 thing to look for ... drum roll ...

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(sorry, couldn't resist)

-- Dave Tweed

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:49:32 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyorewrote
"rlbell.nsuid@gmail.com" wrote:
John Larkin wrote

But why would anybody want a 76 Thunderbird, even in 1976?

I am really tall, but with a short torso, so I really needed the leg
room. It was $250 to purchase, another $350 to make roadworthy, and
less than $700 a year for liability coverage.

In other words, a beater.


You do not understand ride-comfort; until you have driven a pug heavy
vehicle with cushy suspension and a high ratio of sprung to unsprung
weight-- the T-bird's wheels followed every imperfection in the road
surface.

Lovely. It probably also didn't go round corners very well. Euro cars fixed
all these things decades ago.

(Sorry, had to be said).

Graham

By 1976, the Thunderbird was a bloated parody of the original
roadster.

I occasionally rent an American car = never owned one = and I'm
impressed by their feel and handling, even in radical situations like
power sliding in the rain. Japanese cars used to have sloppy, mushy
American handling, and they're much better now too.

I taught The Brat how to spin a (rented) SUV in the snow when she was
10. We shut down the road below the parking lot where we were
practising; nobody could figure where the snow flurries and fog were
coming from. It was a blast, and the Explorer did OK.

Wasn't the Austin Allegro the worst car of all time?

Further response. The Allegro was the successor of the Austin/Morris/MG
1100/1300.

I think the US version was the Austin America. I has a friend who had
one. It had the Midget 1100 engine, transverse, transaxle, front-wheel
drive, hatchback, all radical in those days. Its layout was the model
for most modern cars. But they dropped the ball on quality and
innovation.

I drove an MG or Austin GT 1300 down to the 'west country' once when a friend
kindly lent me one in return for a delivery job. I was totally converterted to
FWD when handling it in the snow. It was so good. Passers by looked at us in
astonishment as if to say how can you drive in this ?

Now try a Saab ! They *race* them in the snow !

I've driven them, and they're OK but nothing radical. BMW's feel good
to me. The most sensuous car I've ever driven was an Alfa Spider, but
it was a maintenance nightmare.

John

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

Wasn't the Austin Allegro the worst car of all time?

Further response. The Allegro was the successor of the Austin/Morris/MG
1100/1300.

I think the US version was the Austin America. I has a friend who had
one. It had the Midget 1100 engine, transverse, transaxle, front-wheel
drive, hatchback, all radical in those days. Its layout was the model
for most modern cars. But they dropped the ball on quality and
innovation.

Yup. Sounds spot on.

I drove an MG or Austin GT 1300 down to the 'west country' once when a friend
kindly lent me one in return for a delivery job. I was totally converterted to
FWD when handling it in the snow. It was so good. Passers by looked at us in
astonishment as if to say how can you drive in this ?

Now try a Saab ! They *race* them in the snow !

I've driven them, and they're OK but nothing radical. BMW's feel good
to me.

But spin off the road fatally at the least provocation from an inexperienced
driver.

The most sensuous car I've ever driven was an Alfa Spider, but
it was a maintenance nightmare.

I nearly bought an AlfaSud. Now they were fun. Aside from the rust. Yet the biggest
engine was only 1500 cc.

Try a Saab again. Ask for the Aero. And find a road you can have fun with it. You
can drive a stick shift ? That's what really puts the grin on your face.

Scroll about half way down to 1997 and select Saab 9-5 Development Promo
http://www.saabhistory.com/videos/

To its left is Saab 9000 Ad Year: 1997 that may just have been what persuaded me to
try one.

Graham

 

[The Trucker]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:18:09 -0700, DarkMatter wrote:

Rod Speed is arrogant, along with Grendel, Jim Pennino and Greg Nail.
I remember a thread where Rod Speed called my altruistic and socialist
ideas about land and illegal alliens my "little pathetic fantasyland".
Here's the thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/browse_thread/thread/7bb25151da20dba3/4d90781977a6e4dd?hl=en&lnk=st&q=pathetic+fantasyland#4d90781977a6e4dd

There are a lot of pro-capitalist, fascist and anti-communist posters
on usenet which makes me believe usnet serves as an haven for greedy
pro-capitalist assholes and Nazis. That's one of the reasons i stopped
posting on usenet a long time ago, especially on the politics
section.

There is nothing wrong with true capitalism once one understands that
capital is produced by labor and that it is productions that are employed
in the pursuit of commodities (goods). With strict definition of capital
it is seen that private ownership of it increases the creation of it and
that in doing so the productivity of the people and hence the leisure of
the people is increased. But we morph into plutocracy and the creation of
a ruling class when we treat natural resources as though they were
products of labor (capital). Land is the ultimate piggy bank in
that it does not depreciate and it gains value solely from the natural
growth of population. Unlike capital ownership that enhances the creation
of capital, there is no more and no less land created by ownership of
land. And it is that land ownership is economically perverse in that
economic rent is thereby concentrated in a class with no good purpose but
to rule the rest.

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

 

[DarkMatter]

Rod Speed is arrogant, along with Grendel, Jim Pennino and Greg Nail.
I remember a thread where Rod Speed called my altruistic and socialist
ideas about land and illegal alliens my "little pathetic fantasyland".
Here's the thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/browse_thread/thread/7bb25151da20dba3/4d90781977a6e4dd?hl=en&lnk=st&q=pathetic+fantasyland#4d90781977a6e4dd

There are a lot of pro-capitalist, fascist and anti-communist posters
on usenet which makes me believe usnet serves as an haven for greedy
pro-capitalist assholes and Nazis. That's one of the reasons i stopped
posting on usenet a long time ago, especially on the politics
section.

 

And it is that land ownership is economically perverse in that economic rent
is thereby concentrated in a class with no good purpose but to rule the rest.

You wouldnt know what a real ruler

For a more formal treatment of ownership of geo resources read Henry
George's _Progress and Poverty_.

Also see Locke, Jefferson and DeTocqueville.


Bret Cahill


"The search for gold has impoverished more European countries . . ."

-- DeTocqueville

 

This is not a wager. It is a free market free trade offer.

I'll pay $200 US for a hard copy answer to The Question from an
outspoken "market" economist at the Hoover Inst., Heritage Foundation,
American Enterprise, Cato, the Chicago School of Economics, von
Mises.*

The Question is:

"Does free speech precede each and every free trade?"

The rules are simple.

1. The letterhead must be from Hoover Inst., Heritage Foundation,
American Enterprise, Cato, the Chicago School of Economics, von Mises
Inst.*

2. The Question must appear in the body of the letter.

3. Some text must appear to be an answer to The Question, either a
"yes" or "no" or "I dunno."

4. The signature of the outspoken economist must appear in the
letter.

5. Email BretCahill@aol.com a copy in an attached pdf or tiff file
along with a mailing address. If you are really secretive include a
map of a stump or pipe where I can stuff the cash. (Lower 48 only.)


* Other shill tanks may be considered.


Bret Cahill

 

On Aug 18, 11:40 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:

This is not a wager.  It is a free market free trade offer.

I'll pay $200 US for a hard copy answer to The Question from an
outspoken "market" economist at the Hoover Inst., Heritage Foundation,
American Enterprise, Cato, the Chicago School of Economics, von
Mises.*

The Question is:

"Does free speech precede each and every free trade?"

The rules are simple.

1.  The letterhead must be from Hoover Inst., Heritage Foundation,
American Enterprise, Cato, the Chicago School of Economics, von Mises
Inst.*

2.  The Question must appear in the body of the letter.

3.  Some text must appear to be an answer to The Question, either a
"yes" or "no" or "I dunno."

4.  The signature of the outspoken economist must appear in the
letter.

5.  Email BretCah...@aol.com a copy in an attached pdf or tiff file
along with a mailing address.  If you are really secretive include a
map of a stump or pipe where I can stuff the cash.  (Lower 48 only.)

* Other shill tanks may be considered.

Bret Cahill

you have posted this many times before over the years, and still no
takers. they cannot answer it with a straight yes or no.
i even had a cato guy threaten me with a law suit on the ngs once
years ago, till i pointed out to him that its free speech, and if he
sues, he will have to in a federal court, his response, crickets.
they may answer, but the answer will be so distorted with
distractions/quibbles/trivial assumptions, that when you are done
reading it, you will realize that this is what you are dealing with,
"definition of a cult:Confusing Doctrine Encouraging blind acceptance
and rejection of logic through complex lectures on an incomprehensible
doctrine, Chanting and Singing Eliminating non-cult ideas through
group repetition of mind-narrowing chants or phrases."
or,
"what is the definition of a crank? one who gives out advise that
makes no sense at all.
what is the definition of a crank? one who accepts, or embraces
advise that makes no sense at all".

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:25:18 -0700 (PDT), BretCahill@peoplepc.com
wrote:

Also see Locke, Jefferson and DeTocqueville.

---
I read, I think, I think I learn.

And feel the fire within me burn.

And wish the words I read were mine

instead of pearls cast before swine.

JF

 

[terryc]

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:02:30 -0700, The Trucker wrote:

And it is that land ownership is economically perverse in that
economic rent is thereby concentrated in a class with no good purpose but
to rule the rest.

Meow?