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[Homer J Simpson]

<mboulas@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156279249.334188.165880@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Make over Ł10,000 a month, using PAYPAL and a proven process, with
just a Ł6.00 investment.

I'm not a ho. And whores don't take PayPal.

 

[Alan Connor]

On alt.tv.survivor, in <ecqtki$gc8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, "Michael Black" wrote:

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From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)

Michael Black
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5 comp.os.linux.misc
1 comp.os.minix
4 comp.sys.apple2
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Note that this group doesn't appear in this alias's
posting history. Nor is this thread crossposted to
any of the above groups.

And that's the posting history of a sockpuppet created
for rec.arts.tv

Therefore, it's got to be the sockpuppet of a
stinking troll.

(That report was produced by my newsreader with a
single keystroke.)

Newsgroups: alt.tv.survivor
Subject: Re: Survivor
Date: 27 Aug 2006 01:48:02 GMT
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
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Message-ID: <ecqtki$gc8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca
References: <slrnef19il.1rg.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid
Reply-To: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)
NNTP-Posting-Host: smeagol.ncf.ca
X-Trace: theodyn.ncf.ca 1156643281 16776 134.117.136.48 (27 Aug 2006 01:48:02 GMT)
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Note also that his User-Agent header has been removed. That
has do be done manually, because every newsreader in existence
includes it in the headers.

<article not downloaded:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.offline>

You need not bother posting to me again, you stinking troll.
Or you can do it 10000 times. I won't be reading your articles
nor any responses to them.

[rebar_K@hotm]
[Morph ]

Those are probably your sockpuppets too.

As is "Elmo P. Shagnasty".

I told you: You are out of your league. No dipschitt, dickless,
punk troll has a chance against me.

Run along and watch some porn, Junior. Maybe you'll get lucky
and will be able to find your dick this time.


Alan

--
If you replied to an article of mine and are wondering
why I didn't respond to you, see:
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/newsfilter.html

 

[Anal Honor]

This is an autogenerated message.


Alan doesn't believe in anyone else's existence ...

Alan accuses practically everyone of being sock puppets.
Apparently, Alan is the only real person in the newsgroups in which he posts.
(Even Roosta and his towel aren't real.) Recently, Alan has told everyone that
we are all Morely Dotes' sock puppets. In earlier cycles,
we were all apparently sock puppets of Ben Finney.
The choice appears to be arbitrary.

http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml


Who is Alan Connor?


Alan Connor is the inventor and implementor of the final ultimate
solution to the spam problem, and everyone who dares claim otherwise
is a spammer.
That is basically the gist of the messages Alan sometimes spews into NANAE (1)

Alan Connor is appearently also trolling on many other newsgroups.


So what is he raving about?


In reality, Alan's system is known as a challenge-response or C/R system;
it auto-answers incoming email with a challenge and only lets the email
through if it receives a valid response. There are several problems with
this concept, but Alan doesn't want to hear them. In addition,
Alan's system isn't even a very good implementation of the C/R concept,
as it fails to address the chicken-egg problem that is inherent to C/R:
What if your C/R system sends a challenge to an email address that is
also protected by a C/R system? Because of this, Alan and Timo Salmi,
another C/R advocate, are unable to email eachother. So basically Alan's
system is a broken implementation of a flawed concept.

http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/challenge-response.html

http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html#CR

http://www.gatago.com/authors_pgs/13650.html

http://blog.bananasplit.info/?p=84

(1) news.admin.net-abuse.email

Also in the headers for "Allan" to read.

 

[Mufassa]

Alan Connor wrote:

On alt.tv.survivor, in <ecqtki$gc8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, "Michael Black" wrote:
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From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)

Michael Black
Results 1 - 100 of 1,220 posts in the last year
4 alt.folklore.computers
3 alt.os.linux.slackware
4 alt.tv.amazing-race
3 alt.tv.simpsons
1 comp.os.linux.hardware
5 comp.os.linux.misc
1 comp.os.minix
4 comp.sys.apple2
1 comp.sys.cbm
1 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc
1 comp.sys.tandy
1 misc.consumers
6 misc.consumers.frugal-living
2 ott.general
4 rec.antiques.radio+phono
1 rec.arts.movies.past-films
25 rec.arts.tv
1 rec.music.folk
1 rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s
4 rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s
3 rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
1 rec.radio.amateur.equipment
1 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
1 rec.radio.amateur.misc
3 rec.radio.shortwave
8 sci.electronics.basics
1 sci.electronics.components
6 sci.electronics.design
1 sci.electronics.misc
2 sci.electronics.repair

Note that this group doesn't appear in this alias's
posting history. Nor is this thread crossposted to
any of the above groups.

And that's the posting history of a sockpuppet created
for rec.arts.tv

Therefore, it's got to be the sockpuppet of a
stinking troll.

(That report was produced by my newsreader with a
single keystroke.)

Newsgroups: alt.tv.survivor
Subject: Re: Survivor
Date: 27 Aug 2006 01:48:02 GMT
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
Lines: 44
Message-ID: <ecqtki$gc8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca
References: <slrnef19il.1rg.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid
Reply-To: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)
NNTP-Posting-Host: smeagol.ncf.ca
X-Trace: theodyn.ncf.ca 1156643281 16776 134.117.136.48 (27 Aug 2006 01:48:02 GMT)
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Note also that his User-Agent header has been removed. That
has do be done manually, because every newsreader in existence
includes it in the headers.

article not downloaded:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.offline

You need not bother posting to me again, you stinking troll.
Or you can do it 10000 times. I won't be reading your articles
nor any responses to them.

[rebar_K@hotm]
[Morph ]

Those are probably your sockpuppets too.

As is "Elmo P. Shagnasty".

I told you: You are out of your league. No dipschitt, dickless,
punk troll has a chance against me.

Run along and watch some porn, Junior. Maybe you'll get lucky
and will be able to find your dick this time.


Alan

--
If you replied to an article of mine and are wondering
why I didn't respond to you, see:
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/newsfilter.ht

Hi alan!
I actually respect your opinon.Yes In a Normal Survival situation
most contestants on survivor wouldn't last 3 days out there. But as you
know a TV show is a VERY controlled situation. the contestants can't
starve,dehydrate to death or even sucumb to the elements due to leagle
reasons. Now if you want to produce a show where every three days a
person is killed, with the final person either just making it out or
winning a prize, do it as long as the contestants know exactly what
they are getting into and see if it you can sell it to the
networks..The Real answer alan is not to Bitch and moan, it is to do
something constructive about the problem
signed
David Guillot

 

[Alan Connor]

On alt.tv.survivor, in <1156746621.537089.276100@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Mufassa" wrote:

Correction: A malicious, ignorant, obnoxious and dishonest coward
who _sometimes_ calls himself "Mufassa" wrote:

(Who cares? Trolldung is good for nothing but flushing down the
virtual toilet, which I have done by leaving his article on the
server. _All_ of his articles, regardless of which alias he is
cowering behind at the moment, with his tail between his legs
where his balls should be. And that goes for any replies to his
articles, too.)

Oops. I forgot "impotent". There isn't one thing this feeb can do
about me. He can't even get an article into my newsreader with a
dozen sockpuppets.

He has a threat rating so low that I don't even _have_ to
read his articles.

<article not downloaded:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.offline>

You know, I think this twerp actually believes that we don't know
that he's the only one besides me posting on this thread (and
other threads on this group).

Curse Bill Gates for making it possible for idiots to use a
computer.

Alan

--
If you replied to an article of mine and are wondering
why I didn't respond to you, the fact is that I didn't
even download your article. For an explanation, see:
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/newsfilter.html

 

This is a message.


Alan doesn't believe in anyone else's existence ...

Alan accuses practically everyone of being sock puppets.
Apparently, Alan is the only real person in the newsgroups in which he posts.
(Even Roosta and his towel aren't real.) Recently, Alan has told everyone that
we are all Morely Dotes' sock puppets. In earlier cycles,
we were all apparently sock puppets of Ben Finney.
The choice appears to be arbitrary.

http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml


Who is Alan Connor?

Alan "The Usenet Beavis" Connor is a good friend of Bigfoot:
http://tinyurl.com/23r3f

A couple of years ago he was kidnapped and raped by Xena,
the Warrior Princess: http://tinyurl.com/2gjcy

Beavis believes that the MSBlast virus of yesteryear was explicitly
targeting him, for some inexplicable reason: http://tinyurl.com/ifrt

Beavis belongs to a UFO cult: http://tinyurl.com/2hhdx
Beavis's life in a UFO cult: http://tinyurl.com/24jqm
He is a skilled dental surgeon: http://tinyurl.com/3h6a5
Beavis knows all about network security: http://tinyurl.com/5qqb6
And he's also a search engine expert: http://tinyurl.com/9pjnt


So what is he raving about?

In reality, Alan's system is known as a challenge-response or C/R system;
it auto-answers incoming email with a challenge and only lets the email
through if it receives a valid response. There are several problems with
this concept, but Alan doesn't want to hear them. In addition,
Alan's system isn't even a very good implementation of the C/R concept,
as it fails to address the chicken-egg problem that is inherent to C/R:
What if your C/R system sends a challenge to an email address that is
also protected by a C/R system? Because of this, Alan and Timo Salmi,
another C/R advocate, are unable to email eachother. So basically Alan's
system is a broken implementation of a flawed concept.

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=MQ9uxRYAAAAX2tAp-itjMPAOxLgFwCc3_gRbb05PKyTO4L-MEqh3HQ&hl=en
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/challenge-response.html
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html#CR
http://www.gatago.com/authors_pgs/13650.html
http://blog.bananasplit.info/?p=84
http://tinyurl.com/23r3f
http://tinyurl.com/ifrt
http://tinyurl.com/2hhdx
http://tinyurl.com/24jqm
http://tinyurl.com/3h6a5
http://tinyurl.com/ys6z4
http://tinyurl.com/5qqb6
http://tinyurl.com/9pjnt

(1) news.admin.net-abuse.email

Also in the headers for "Allan" to read.

 

[Lord Garth]

"Dennis" <dennis@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:JFXKg.1$ID3.0@newsfe07.lga...

Luhan wrote:

The famous N.E.D. (noise emitting diode) - goes bang just one time!

Luhan

Or as my wife called it once when I hooked up a small diode backwards
the "temporarily light emitting diode" the TLED I guess.

Way back in time, before I learned of the reverse polarity on cheap VOMs,
I was fooled into soldering a diode in backwards on an 8-track player.
The epoxy casing fragments bounced off of my glasses

 

[Puckdropper]

"Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in
news:YnYKg.23864$gY6.15038@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

*snip*

Way back in time, before I learned of the reverse polarity on cheap
VOMs, I was fooled into soldering a diode in backwards on an 8-track
player. The epoxy casing fragments bounced off of my glasses

Thus the reason electricians should not have any sort of lasik surgery
done or wear contacts. Glasses are safer for guys like us. (Don't
bother with safety glasses, you won't wear them anyway.)

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

 

[Don Bruder]

In article <44fc576f$0$97214$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Puckdropper <puckdropper@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in
news:YnYKg.23864$gY6.15038@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

*snip*

Way back in time, before I learned of the reverse polarity on cheap
VOMs, I was fooled into soldering a diode in backwards on an 8-track
player. The epoxy casing fragments bounced off of my glasses


Thus the reason electricians should not have any sort of lasik surgery
done or wear contacts. Glasses are safer for guys like us. (Don't
bother with safety glasses, you won't wear them anyway.)

Heh... ain't that the truth... Who thinks of putting on a pair of safety
glasses when they're ALREADY WEARING a pair of wraparound-style
prescription glasses specifically ordered to be cut from the same
material used in safety glasses, and have been for so long that they
hardly have a "blink" reflex to "incoming stuff" anymore?

Wha? Who? Me? Put on safety glasses? What do you think *THESE* are???

--
Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist,
or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow"
somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my
ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more info

 

nitinmul...@gmail.com wrote:
i searched for the ds5000t 8-12 microcontroller and couldn't get price
details of it.ineed to buy the ic but it was hard to find it.are they
hard to find? pls suggest me where they can be available and how much
they cost.i am from india

 

[John O'Flaherty]

nitinmulley@gmail.com wrote:

nitinmul...@gmail.com wrote:
i searched for the ds5000t 8-12 microcontroller and couldn't get price
details of it.ineed to buy the ic but it was hard to find it.are they
hard to find? pls suggest me where they can be available and how much
they cost.i am from india

It's from Dallas Semiconductor, now a part of Maxim. It's part of a
family, DS5000; their website seems to indicate that only the
DS5000-32-16 is still available. Digi-key has those parts.
--
John

 

[Vitaliy]

Johnny Boy wrote:

You should listen to David, he knows what he's saying - even the very best
of rail-to-rail op-amps won't go close to the supply rails, except if
they're very lightly loaded, 1M etc. They still usually fall short of the
negative rail by 5-50mV and 0.5-1.5V short of the positive rail.
... Johnny

OK, I doublechecked the requirements, I don't have to get the exact
10Vp-p. Maybe I was getting such high output voltages (for OPA657)
because of 1M load


Jamie wrote:

Vitaliy wrote:

I've been trying to do that.

In a lot of examples on the datasheets of amplifiers I'm looking for, I
see they are using 50Ohm input. However, I know for sure (test results)
that output of the first stage (photodiode amp) does not work with
50Ohm loads, but works with 1MOhm loads. Should I be concerned about
that?

Vitaliy

put an old stand by TL082 type op-amp infront of it.

But that would kill my BW (the BW on that is only 4MHz, and I need
40MHz), right?

redbelly wrote:

If you're okay with, say 1 usec or slower response time, I wouldn't
worry about using a 50 ohm load. You might even be okay with the
higher impendance at somewhat faster response times, you might need to
experiment a little. If you could get by with a 1k or 10k load then
you'd have an easier time finding an opamp.

You didn't say much yet about the nature of your signal, other than
it's optical. Are you looking at light pulses (and at what pulse
duration), modulated light (and at what frequency), or a more-or-less
cw signal that changes slowly in intensity (and on what sort of time
scale does the intensity change)?

I have broadband light source w/ rapid scanning optical delay line
(RSOD) and phase modulator. Are you suggesting this would affect the
required slew rate?

Thanks for all advices,

Vitaliy

 

[Vitaliy]

Johnny Boy wrote:

You should listen to David, he knows what he's saying - even the very best
of rail-to-rail op-amps won't go close to the supply rails, except if
they're very lightly loaded, 1M etc. They still usually fall short of the
negative rail by 5-50mV and 0.5-1.5V short of the positive rail.
... Johnny

OK, I doublechecked the requirements, I don't have to get the exact
10Vp-p. Maybe I was getting such high output voltages (for OPA657)
because of 1M load


Jamie wrote:

Vitaliy wrote:

I've been trying to do that.

In a lot of examples on the datasheets of amplifiers I'm looking for, I
see they are using 50Ohm input. However, I know for sure (test results)
that output of the first stage (photodiode amp) does not work with
50Ohm loads, but works with 1MOhm loads. Should I be concerned about
that?

Vitaliy

put an old stand by TL082 type op-amp infront of it.

But that would kill my BW (the BW on that is only 4MHz, and I need
40MHz), right?

redbelly wrote:

If you're okay with, say 1 usec or slower response time, I wouldn't
worry about using a 50 ohm load. You might even be okay with the
higher impendance at somewhat faster response times, you might need to
experiment a little. If you could get by with a 1k or 10k load then
you'd have an easier time finding an opamp.

You didn't say much yet about the nature of your signal, other than
it's optical. Are you looking at light pulses (and at what pulse
duration), modulated light (and at what frequency), or a more-or-less
cw signal that changes slowly in intensity (and on what sort of time
scale does the intensity change)?

I have broadband light source w/ rapid scanning optical delay line
(RSOD) and phase modulator. Are you suggesting this would affect the
required slew rate?

Thanks for all advices,

Vitaliy

 

[electronic-eng.com]

I have a list of Atmel AVR books on my website amongst other useful AVR
and electronics related information:
http://www.electronic-eng.com/books/avrbooks.html

Alan
www.electronic-eng.com

 

[redbelly]

Jamie wrote:
put an old stand by TL082 type op-amp infront of it.

Vitaliy wrote:

But that would kill my BW (the BW on that is only 4MHz, and I need
40MHz), right?

redbelly wrote:
If you're okay with, say 1 usec or slower response time, I wouldn't
worry about using a 50 ohm load. You might even be okay with the
higher impendance at somewhat faster response times, you might need to
experiment a little. If you could get by with a 1k or 10k load then
you'd have an easier time finding an opamp.

You didn't say much yet about the nature of your signal, other than
it's optical. Are you looking at light pulses (and at what pulse
duration), modulated light (and at what frequency), or a more-or-less
cw signal that changes slowly in intensity (and on what sort of time
scale does the intensity change)?

Vitaliy wrote:

I have broadband light source w/ rapid scanning optical delay line
(RSOD) and phase modulator. Are you suggesting this would affect the
required slew rate?

I was thinking in terms of bandwidth, but yes, the slew rate is
relevant also.

You'll almost certainly need a 50 ohm load at 40 MHz speed, so forget
my earlier suggestion of using a higher load to reduce the current
requirement.

Mark

 

[John]

On 29 Sep 2006 02:02:23 -0700, "mark2006" <iKolar26@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi to all !

I have connected 19 "small" homemade batteries into one realy,
realy huge battery. After some tests and after fixing some problems
with volmeter, i have this situation:

One "small" battery:
DCV : 2,53 V
DCAmps: : 0,5 mA

Huge battery:
DCV : 48V
DCAmps : 24 mA


Hardware:
- 48 DCV homemade battery
- 1KW DC/AC converter


Idea:
To pull 1KW from the inverter, for 10 hours.


Methods to encrease power:
Step - down
Charge pump (?).
Capacitors

Calculations:

P 1428 W
Ibat. = --- = -------- ~ 30 amperes
E 48V

------------------------------------------------
P 1000W
I = --- = ---------- ~ 4,5 amperes
E 220V

-------------------------------------------------
Pout 1000W
Pinverter = ------ = ---------- ~ 1428 watts
Eff 0.7

-------------------------------------------------
C = It = 30A *10hr = 300 ampere - hours.


Questions:
1.) How to produce so much power ( 30A)

2.) Is there possibility to fill the capacitors and then to pull the
power from them ( for 10 hours). ?

Conclusion:
I have conected two devices ( volt and amper meter ) on the same
battery wires, to measure the states on small battery. When i switch to
power measurment (on ampermeter ) my voltmeter shows 350mV and my amp.
meter, 0.5mA. After i shut down amp. meter, voltage on the voltmeter
shows again 2,5 Volts.

Mark

There's no way the home builder can build batteries that will provide
the amount of power that you're seeking.

Think bigger; much, much BIGGER!

A typical automobile battery ($50US)might provide 30 amps at 12 volts
for something over an hour (battery with 20 hour rating of 55AH,
derated for higher discharge rate). 8 or 10 of these batteries in
parallel (not a great design) could provide power for 10 hours ($400US
to $500US), but multiply the number of batteries by 4 to get 48 volts
($1600US to $2000US).
Since automobile batteries are not designed for continuous or deep
discharge, you would need to use deep discharge rated batteries
(higher capacity, so fewer batteries) but at 2 to 4 times the price of
the car battery (maybe $4000US)

Do some online research on wind and solar powered homes. Learn how
much battery capacity is available in various formats.

1. Do you have appropriate space (size, ventilation) for that much
battery plant?
2. Can your floor support that much weight (40 - 100lb per battery)?
3. Do you have $4000 or more to invest?
4. Unless you have a "free" source (wind, solar, hydroelectric) for
charging the batteries, there seems little value in building this size
plant. Pedalling a bicyle to drive a generator doesn't count - that's
a source of maybe 200 watts for a short period.

On the other hand, a 5KW gasoline powered generator with an advertised
run time of 10 hours (at half load) on 4 gallons of gas is $499US.
That's a small fraction of the cost of building a battery plant to
provide the amount of power you described.

My qualifications? 32 years in various technical/support roles with
AT&T.

John

 

[Aly]

John <look@sig.net> wrote in message
news:f5jqh29nfl004726nkts803s4gbqjc78g1@4ax.com...

On 29 Sep 2006 02:02:23 -0700, "mark2006" <iKolar26@yahoo.com> wrote:

On the other hand, a 5KW gasoline powered generator with an advertised
run time of 10 hours (at half load) on 4 gallons of gas is $499US.
That's a small fraction of the cost of building a battery plant to
provide the amount of power you described.

My qualifications? 32 years in various technical/support roles with
AT&T.

John

I've always wondered why a bike hooked up to an alternator/dynamo with fat
children on it peddling wouldn't work?

 

[John Fields]

On 29 Sep 2006 02:02:23 -0700, "mark2006" <iKolar26@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hi to all !

I have connected 19 "small" homemade batteries into one realy,
realy huge battery. After some tests and after fixing some problems
with volmeter, i have this situation:

One "small" battery:
DCV : 2,53 V
DCAmps: : 0,5 mA

Huge battery:
DCV : 48V
DCAmps : 24 mA


Hardware:
- 48 DCV homemade battery
- 1KW DC/AC converter


Idea:
To pull 1KW from the inverter, for 10 hours.

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Forget it.


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John]

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:30:45 +0100, "Aly" <alison@logicsaysNOSPAM.com>
wrote:

John <look@sig.net> wrote in message
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On 29 Sep 2006 02:02:23 -0700, "mark2006" <iKolar26@yahoo.com> wrote:

On the other hand, a 5KW gasoline powered generator with an advertised
run time of 10 hours (at half load) on 4 gallons of gas is $499US.
That's a small fraction of the cost of building a battery plant to
provide the amount of power you described.

My qualifications? 32 years in various technical/support roles with
AT&T.

John


I've always wondered why a bike hooked up to an alternator/dynamo with fat
children on it peddling wouldn't work?

Average person is good for maybe 200 watts for 15 to 20 minutes.
Athletic person can do more power and/or longer time, but probably no
more than 300 watts for 25 to 30 minutes. (This assumes an efficient
permanent magnet generator, not an automobile alternator.)

If you have enough children (bicycle built for 6 or 8?), a method of
combining multpile pedalling speeds into a common load (none of the
kids will be exactly matched in ability to the others), and an
incentive that keeps them on task - it might work...

John

 

[Aly]

John <look@sig.net> wrote in message
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I've always wondered why a bike hooked up to an alternator/dynamo with
fat
children on it peddling wouldn't work?


Average person is good for maybe 200 watts for 15 to 20 minutes.
Athletic person can do more power and/or longer time, but probably no
more than 300 watts for 25 to 30 minutes. (This assumes an efficient
permanent magnet generator, not an automobile alternator.)

If you have enough children (bicycle built for 6 or 8?), a method of
combining multpile pedalling speeds into a common load (none of the
kids will be exactly matched in ability to the others), and an
incentive that keeps them on task - it might work...

John

Just long enough to watch an episode of Futurama or The Simpsons.

All of this talk of environmental polution, nuclear power, wind turbines,
and solar power.

Just stick the fat kids on the power bikes in the garden. It'd probably
work in Iran, but let's not go there. They're not fat, unfit, and have an
addiction to Big Macs.

I can manage 60-minutes on a cross country trainer which is pretty intense.
60-minutes peddling hard on a bike can be done but more like about
20-minutes as you say.