Bugging device

[Craig Hart]

asspunch?

Hmm, sure he isn't interested in a buggering device, as opposed to a bugging
device?

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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"." <asspunch@punkass.com> wrote in message

Greetings,

Looking for ideas to bug a person in some way.



** Inflicting yourself on them, "asspunch", should do that quite
nicely.




.......... Phil

 

[Parmin]

"Richard Freeman" <deletethisrichard@atps.net> while reading the
NewsGroups, farted out of his nose and bring out
news:2hfem7Fc2ertU1@uni-berlin.de:

Why does this sound suspiciously like someone who has never had the
joy of pulling apart a modern mobile phone ?
There is barely enough room to fit the Phones electronics let alone
anything extra ......

True true.. Qualifiers required.

Well, I have placed a custom FM transmitter in the battery cover for a
Nokia 8210. The cover I used is the ones that have been used for
a dual SIM card system. PLENTY of space of course.

Some people just bitch and bitch....

Relax


Par.

 

[Parmin]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> was bored so he argued the
news:2hdr6bFbqcfbU1@uni-berlin.de:

"Parmin" <rajabetawi@hotmail.NOSPAM.com

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au

** The idea is absurd - like something out of a James Bond 007
movie.

The ( near impossible to fit ) bug in the phone

Not too hard to do.. been there done that


** Obvious and stupid lie.

Obviously Phil are unable to work with modern electronics parts.
Obviously his whole experiences are working with Valves and such.
Hehehe. Dinosaur in computer age..

** Arrests can be made based on "reasonable suspicion" based on the
claims made by others.

Hehehe. Too much Dick tracy movies..

Innocent until proven guilty.

** Nothing to do with what the cops can do.

Bwahahahaha

** In NSW the Listening Devices Act provides penalties up to 5 years
in jail.


Agreed. BUT, still got to be proven and tried.

it maybe a jealous husband (LOL) thats monitoring.

** Makes no difference.

It does too..

** For plenty of "crap" just read any of Parmin's posts.


Phil, grow up !! or if you can't, just retire!

You are tired. Give yourself a break before you get a stroke

Chill out dude

Par.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Parmin" <

"Phil Allison"

** Arrests can be made based on "reasonable suspicion" based on the
claims made by others.

Hehehe. Too much Dick tracy movies..

** I see you are a legal know nothing.

" Hew haw " is more the noise you usually make.

Innocent until proven guilty.

** Nothing to do with what the cops can do.

Bwahahahaha

** Can you play a banjo too ???

** In NSW the Listening Devices Act provides penalties up to 5 years
in jail.


Agreed. BUT, still got to be proven and tried.

** Not a problem.

it maybe a jealous husband (LOL) thats monitoring.

** Makes no difference.

It does too..

** I see you are a legal know nothing.

Hee haw ......

** For plenty of "crap" just read any of Parmin's posts.



Phil, grow up !!

** I see you snipped out your own words - better put them back:

" nah.. crap!!! see above "

or if you can't, just retire!
You are tired. Give yourself a break before you get a stroke

Chill out dude

** Criminal stuff has no place on this NG - nor you.




............... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Parmin" <

Well, I have placed a custom FM transmitter in the battery cover for a
Nokia 8210. The cover I used is the ones that have been used for
a dual SIM card system. PLENTY of space of course.

** No breach of the Listening Devices Act involved of course ???????

Some people just bitch and bitch....

** While others just post BS as hard as they can go.




............ Phil

 

[izzgood]

Phil Allison wrote:

** Criminal stuff has no place on this NG - nor you.

Personally I would have said that there was no place in the NG for these
back and forth slanging matches that go on, but they can be entertaining
otherwise I wouldn't be encouraging it.

There's nothing criminal about discussing transmitting devices whatever
their kind or intended application, nor should there be. Nor is there
any law against constructing such devices AFAIK. Using them in certain
circumstances might be unlawful but Mr. Dot hasn't posted to
aus.electronics to ask for any legal opinions on unlawfully using these
devices. He DID ask what legal frequencies might be used, and
aus.electronics would seem an appropriate place to pose such a question.
Little did he know.

As for the OO7 side of it, James Bond must shop at Dick Smith because
everything he needs to know or purchase can be found there within half
an hours browsing time and constructed in probably less. You should get
out more Phil.

 

[Parmin]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> while reading the NewsGroups,
picked his nose and bring out news:2hihomFdjr2uU1@uni-berlin.de:

"Parmin"
"Phil Allison"

** Arrests can be made based on "reasonable suspicion" based on
the claims made by others.

Hehehe. Too much Dick tracy movies..


** I see you are a legal know nothing.

If you do, PROVE IT, otherwise, as you say

" Hew haw " is more the noise you usually make.

Innocent until proven guilty.

** Nothing to do with what the cops can do.

Bwahahahaha


** Can you play a banjo too ???

See... Phil is definitely lost it. I thought we are discussing about

bugs, then out of the blue, he is talking 100% off topic... dementia?
Phil, shaddup!!! hehehehe

** In NSW the Listening Devices Act provides penalties up to 5
years in jail.


Agreed. BUT, still got to be proven and tried.


** Not a problem.

Okay

it maybe a jealous husband (LOL) thats monitoring.

** Makes no difference.

It does too..


** I see you are a legal know nothing.

Hee haw ......
Is that how you sound like Phil? you certainly use that a lot

** For plenty of "crap" just read any of Parmin's posts.



Phil, grow up !!


** I see you snipped out your own words - better put them back:

" nah.. crap!!! see above "

If you like my words so much so that it etched in your mind so, well

I will say that again
nah.. crap!!! see above

or if you can't, just retire!
You are tired. Give yourself a break before you get a stroke

Chill out dude



** Criminal stuff has no place on this NG - nor you.

nor a nardless twit protohominid chromosomally aberrent caricature of

coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum like you Phil.

See, I can call you bad names too

Like I said, chill out dude. It is only a discussion. If you dont
agree then proof it or shove it.


Par.

 

[Phil Allison]

"izzgood" <not@this.address> wrote in message
news:40b432a2$0$31679$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Phil Allison wrote:


** Criminal stuff has no place on this NG - nor you.


Personally I would have said that there was no place in the NG for these
back and forth slanging matches that go on,

** Complete non-sequiter.

There's nothing criminal about discussing transmitting devices whatever
their kind or intended application, nor should there be.

** What absolute rot !!

How about we all discuss the design details of a remote bomb trigger - eh
??

Or maybe how to make a high powered jammer for broadcast signals or mobile
phones ??

Nor is there any law against constructing such devices AFAIK.

** Wanna bet there is no law - the Federal Police would be on you like a
ton of bricks for either of the above.

Using them in certain circumstances might be unlawful but Mr. Dot hasn't
posted to
aus.electronics to ask for any legal opinions on unlawfully using these
devices.

** Bugging people's conversations is ILLEGAL - a *criminal* offence.

How much simpler does it get ????

You really have no clue whatever.

He DID ask what legal frequencies might be used, and
aus.electronics would seem an appropriate place to pose such a question.
Little did he know.

** The are NO frequencies that are legal for bugging people's
onversations - since that is an illegal purpose.

As for the OO7 side of it, James Bond must shop at Dick Smith because
everything he needs to know or purchase can be found there within half
an hours browsing time and constructed in probably less.

** More crass stupidity - is there no end to this ?

You should get out more Phil.

** They should put clowns like you away !!!!



............ Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Parmin" <rajabetawi@hotmail.NOSPAM.com>

Like I said, chill out dude. It is only a discussion.

** More than that for you it seems - since you claim to have actually (
illegally ?? ) bugged someone's mobile phone.

But then you are nice and safe hiding behind that dopey handle and Hotmail
address.

If you dont agree then proof it or shove it.

** You have already abundantly proved all we need to know about you.




............. Phil

 

[izzgood]

Phil Allison wrote:

"izzgood" <not@this.address> wrote in message
news:40b432a2$0$31679$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Phil Allison wrote:


** Criminal stuff has no place on this NG - nor you.


Personally I would have said that there was no place in the NG for these
back and forth slanging matches that go on,



** Complete non-sequiter.

There's nothing criminal about discussing transmitting devices whatever

their kind or intended application, nor should there be.



** What absolute rot !!

How about we all discuss the design details of a remote bomb trigger - eh
??

Or maybe how to make a high powered jammer for broadcast signals or mobile
phones ??




Nor is there any law against constructing such devices AFAIK.



** Wanna bet there is no law - the Federal Police would be on you like a
ton of bricks for either of the above.




Using them in certain circumstances might be unlawful but Mr. Dot hasn't

posted to

aus.electronics to ask for any legal opinions on unlawfully using these
devices.



** Bugging people's conversations is ILLEGAL - a *criminal* offence.

How much simpler does it get ????

You really have no clue whatever.



He DID ask what legal frequencies might be used, and

aus.electronics would seem an appropriate place to pose such a question.
Little did he know.



** The are NO frequencies that are legal for bugging people's
onversations - since that is an illegal purpose.



As for the OO7 side of it, James Bond must shop at Dick Smith because
everything he needs to know or purchase can be found there within half
an hours browsing time and constructed in probably less.



** More crass stupidity - is there no end to this ?



You should get out more Phil.



** They should put clowns like you away !!!!



........... Phil

You're a classic Phil... a good laugh and so easy to tease. Now I feel
bad because you're probably really a nice guy.

 

[Phil Allison]

"izzgood" <not@this.address

You're a classic Phil... a good laugh and so easy to tease. Now I feel
bad because you're probably really a nice guy.

** OTOH , I have no doubt that you are not.



......... Phil

 

[izzgood]

Phil Allison wrote:

"izzgood" <not@this.address


You're a classic Phil... a good laugh and so easy to tease. Now I feel
bad because you're probably really a nice guy.




** OTOH , I have no doubt that you are not.



........ Phil

Awww gee phil, come on lets kiss and make up

 

[David L. Jones]

Parmin <rajabetawi@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94F584829EBCERajabetawihotmailNOS@203.26.24.228>...

"Richard Freeman" <deletethisrichard@atps.net> while reading the
NewsGroups, farted out of his nose and bring out
news:2hfem7Fc2ertU1@uni-berlin.de:

Why does this sound suspiciously like someone who has never had the
joy of pulling apart a modern mobile phone ?
There is barely enough room to fit the Phones electronics let alone
anything extra ......

True true.. Qualifiers required.

Well, I have placed a custom FM transmitter in the battery cover for a
Nokia 8210. The cover I used is the ones that have been used for
a dual SIM card system. PLENTY of space of course.

Out of curiostity, what antenna did you use? and what range did you
get?
I'd be surprised if you got more than ten or twenty meters, which of
course would be pretty pointless in the case of a mobile phone.

I used to play around with FM bugs a lot, and rarely got more than 10m
for concealed antenna like that, even when the antenna wasn't
unobstructed by (in this case) a large battery, lots of metal, and the
users body.

Regards
Dave

 

[izzgood]

Well since you don't seem to want to kiss and make up I guess its my turn.

dsPhil Allison wrote:

"izzgood" <not@this.address> wrote in message
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Phil Allison wrote:


** Criminal stuff has no place on this NG - nor you.


Personally I would have said that there was no place in the NG for these
back and forth slanging matches that go on,



** Complete non-sequiter.

All this an english lessons too!! OK. Non-sequitur: an unsupported
conclusion, usually irrelevant. Not that I was drawing any conclusions,
simply expressing an opinion, relevant in this context because of the on
going slanging match, and as a contrast to your own opinion expressed
immediately beforehand.

As a complete non-sequitur the comment "Complete non-sequiter" [sic] in
this case would be a good example.

There's nothing criminal about discussing transmitting devices
whatever

their kind or intended application, nor should there be.



** What absolute rot !!

How about we all discuss the design details of a remote bomb trigger
- eh
??

Or maybe how to make a high powered jammer for broadcast signals or
mobile
phones ??

But we weren't discussing such things, nor would there be any law
against discussing such things in any case. But since you bring it up,
you know I've got a bunch of remote control cars here, and i guess if i
was thinking about such things I'd use one of the speed controllers to
trigger a detonator and.. hello .. whats that.. i think i hear a knock
at the door... what.. hey.. hey who are you guys..anti-terrowhat?...
what did you break my door down for.. hey .. no .. it wasn't me ..
really.. it was phil allison.. he bought it up not me .... guys?? GUYS??

If you really want to discuss jammers for mobile phones like those
available here http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/ and here
http://www.cellular.co.za/accessories/phone_blockers/mobileblocker.htm
and how to build them here http://gbppr.dyndns.org/PROJ/mil/celljam/ and
an interesting article here
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/content_objectid=13333537_method=full_siteid=89488_headline=-MOBILE-PHONES-JAM-SCAM-name_page.html
where it discusses some interesting (but illegal ..oops) applications
for them like blocking phones at motels to force customers to use
payphones then perhaps you should make a separate post as its really a
bit off topic here.

Nor is there any law against constructing such devices AFAIK.



** Wanna bet there is no law - the Federal Police would be on you
like a
ton of bricks for either of the above.

Are we talking about the devices that we weren't actually talking about
or about the devices that we were actually talking about.. i.e:
transmitters, or the remote bomb detonators and jammer thingies

Ok.. if we're talking about the transmitters, I'll bet. How much you
wanna bet. Lets keep it friendly eh .. $10. The terms would be "Is
there any Australian Federal or State law law that prohibits the
construction of a low power FM transmitting device" or something similar.

If you were talking about the other things well it was you that bought
them up not me. I'd still run a more qualified wager though. I possess
radio control devices that are used to run remote control cars, and I
have NO INTENTION OF USING THEM FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE. Some OTHER
person with less benign motives might come up with other ways to use
them..... in my case possession would without doubt be legal. I'll bet
you that! I paid for the friggin things and I have receipts. In this
hypothetical other persons case, well that's another matter, and I
wouldn't like to put my 2 cents in as fast as you do because its been
years since i studied law and the only thing I remember is that its
never THAT SIMPLE.

Possession of such a device might not ipso facto be unlawful, but its
intended application might be, and without being apprised of more recent
anti-terrorist legislation and its implications, I could still hazard
a guess that a charge of conspiracy to commit an offence could be made
in which the possession of such a device formed part of the evidence.
On its own it would be flimsy evidence, but no doubt they would have
obtained other evidence through BUGGING the person concerned (oh
heavens.. you mean that there are LEGAL circumstances in which someone
might be bugged). But as most people confess and save the police the
trouble of having to prove anything, the chances are good that the idiot
would have told the coppers what he intended. Nearly everyone else gets
off. Check the statistics if you don't believe me.

Then again, Saying something like ...

How about we all discuss the design details of a remote bomb trigger
- eh
??""

might lead to speculation about your motives for posting such a question
eh? What are you up to that we should know about Phil? As a concerned
citizen perhaps I should be forwarding your post to the appropriate
authorities? Nah... they've probably already flagged this conversation
thanks to your choice of phrase and sooner or later some nice ASIO
person (Hi there!!) will be reviewing this dialog and really I'm just
making their job harder by nattering on endlessly like this, subversive
little bastard that I am.

Using them in certain circumstances might be unlawful but Mr. Dot
hasn't

posted to

aus.electronics to ask for any legal opinions on unlawfully using these
devices.



** Bugging people's conversations is ILLEGAL - a *criminal* offence.

How much simpler does it get ????

You really have no clue whatever.

So simple in fact that no-one would be bothered stating it except
self-righteous self-appointed policers of the net chucking in their
spurious 2 cents worth of moralistic mutterings.

He DID ask what legal frequencies might be used, and

aus.electronics would seem an appropriate place to pose such a question.
Little did he know.



** The are NO frequencies that are legal for bugging people's
onversations - since that is an illegal purpose.

It is legal to transmit using certain frequencies without requiring
special licences, and it is legal to transmit on others with the
appropriate licence to do so. That's the issue. That the content or
purpose of the transmission my be unlawful was not the issue but you
made it that. Mr. Dot already knew that and so would the rest of the
english speaking world and probably all the non-english speaking part of
it as well. You are so far off topic you've sailed off the edge of the
world and .. and ... well. the analogy breaks down there.. but
well..hmphh.. and pfft!!

As for the OO7 side of it, James Bond must shop at Dick Smith because
everything he needs to know or purchase can be found there within half
an hours browsing time and constructed in probably less.



** More crass stupidity - is there no end to this ?

Nah! I can keep crass stupidity up for ages. How about you? You've
done pretty well at it so far.

You should get out more Phil.



** They should put clowns like you away !!!!



........... Phil

Ouch.. you got me there.

 

[Parmin]

tronnort@yahoo.com (David L. Jones) while reading the NewsGroups,
picked his nose and bring out
news:894aa0b3.0405260421.751f5b41@posting.google.com:

Out of curiostity, what antenna did you use? and what range did you
get?
I'd be surprised if you got more than ten or twenty meters, which of
course would be pretty pointless in the case of a mobile phone.

I used to play around with FM bugs a lot, and rarely got more than 10m
for concealed antenna like that, even when the antenna wasn't
unobstructed by (in this case) a large battery, lots of metal, and the
users body.

Regards
Dave

True, I only get a very short range transmission. Something like 30 - 40
meters .
Well, the transmitter is not physically hidden behind a battery (not
sandwiched between the battery and the phone) it is actually on the battery
cover. Still, I could not get too far with the tx...
Ah well..

Par.

 

[Parmin]

izzgood <not@this.address> while reading the NewsGroups, replies to Phil
Allison's blabering on news:40b4a182$0$1584$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:

Well since you don't seem to want to kiss and make up I guess its my
turn.

You Tell him Izzy..
Hehehehe

Par.

 

[Parmin]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> while reading the NewsGroups,
pucker up his mouth and farted out news:2hirs2Fda1bqU1@uni-berlin.de:

"Parmin" <rajabetawi@hotmail.NOSPAM.com


Like I said, chill out dude. It is only a discussion.


** More than that for you it seems - since you claim to have
actually ( illegally ?? ) bugged someone's mobile phone.

Bwahahaha...I did say that I put a bug in a mobile phone (something that
YOU claimed that were beyond your meager skill) but I did not claim that
I did it illegally (something that your paranoid brain invented)

But then you are nice and safe hiding behind that dopey handle and
Hotmail
address.

My handle is my name and the mail address is valid, so what are you

ranting about?

If you dont agree then proof it or shove it.



** You have already abundantly proved all we need to know about you.

Phil, as they said in Tamworth, you could not pour piss out of a boot

with instruction printed on the heel. Dung beatles loves you coz you are
so full of crap.


Par.

 

[Parmin]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> while reading the NewsGroups,
picked his nose and bring out news:2hirh0Fd8spfU1@uni-berlin.de:

How about we all discuss the design details of a remote bomb trigger
- eh
??

Or maybe how to make a high powered jammer for broadcast signals or
mobile
phones ??

Oh Phiiilll!!

I am going to design a piece of tool that could be use to do some
horrible damages on human body, this tool will have a handle that fit
your hand perfectly, the material for its construction would be metal, it
could be used to propell some bits of smaller metal, in some language the
tool would be named with a word that started with the letter "P". The
tool are often carried by criminals and used to threaten people. These
tools are normally carried in a leather belt holster and in the wild wild
west movies these tools are used and practiced almost daily.

Shivers!! what a criminal thought it is.. a law abiding citizen like me?
designing a table knife? ohhh... call the cops, have me arrested for
reasonable suspicion ground.

Talking Electronics by Colin Williams? published a few books about
bugging and they are on sale at DickSmi*h. FM bugs are *NOT* new
invention, nor has it been illegal to make, or discussed on. A few
Electronics Magazine published FM bugs guised as "Mini Transmitter" or
such names. They have not been arrested, harrased, nor placed on
blacklist by your "ton of brick Federal Police". Why?

Of course Phil, you may think that placing a bug in YOUR mobile phone is
a hard thing to do, and above that it is illegal. Nevertheless, have you
check your phone recently? How do you know that it is not bugged?
I will give you an advice Phil, buy some Mortein or Raid or some other
insecticide. Given the amount of crap that flow out of you, I would not
be surprised that your mobile phone, telephone, cave, kennel, etc are
buggy. It is those itch Phil.

Par.

 

[Richard Freeman]

"Parmin" <rajabetawi@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> uttered more crap in message
news:Xns94F584829EBCERajabetawihotmailNOS@203.26.24.228...

"Richard Freeman" <deletethisrichard@atps.net
news:2hfem7Fc2ertU1@uni-berlin.de:


Why does this sound suspiciously like someone who has never had the
joy of pulling apart a modern mobile phone ?
There is barely enough room to fit the Phones electronics let alone
anything extra ......




True true.. Qualifiers required.

Well, I have placed a custom FM transmitter in the battery cover for a
Nokia 8210.

in the Battery cover ???? do you mean in the battery pack ? or the space
where the battery goes ? I bet it performs like crap when/if the phone is in
use of course you still have the problem of powering the illegal device and
the joy the owner will experience when he decides his battery is stuffed
.....

The cover I used is the ones that have been used for
a dual SIM card system. PLENTY of space of course.

this would be for a bug and a battery ?

Some people just bitch and bitch....

Relax


Par.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Parmin" <rajabetawi@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message ground.

Talking Electronics by Colin Williams? published a few books about
bugging and they are on sale at DickSmi*h. FM bugs are *NOT* new
invention, nor has it been illegal to make, or discussed on. A few
Electronics Magazine published FM bugs guised as "Mini Transmitter" or
such names. They have not been arrested, harrased, nor placed on
blacklist by your "ton of brick Federal Police". Why?

* Where were the high powered jammers and remote bomb triggers in that rag
???

I did not see any.

The OP in the thread here asked for ideas on how to bug a person - he
spelt out that as his purpose.




................ Phil