beware of the updates you install

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On 11/24/2013 10:05 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
dave wrote:




You need more RAM. As much as the motherboard and OS will support.
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It's an Asus XP netbook I got off the junk pile at Best Buy. Genuine
Intel Atom with 2 cores. It works OK for ebay and iTunes to update my
iPod. I remember replacing the RAM it came with with one twice the size,
but I forgot the exact numbers. It's living on borrowed time..
 
"dave" <ricketzz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I'm convinced. You guys have talked me out of ever using Windows again.

Good move, as long as you don't actually want/need any of the far greater
range of software and drivers available for Windows than any other operating
system that is.

Trevor.
 
"Les Cargill" <lcargill99@comcast.com> wrote in message
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Then it was done to clean up whatever. All I know is that unless I rebuilt
the machine once a year, it would degrade slowly in performance. I also
know that this wasn't due to malware.

I also know that once I started using a registry cleaner, that was no
longer necessary.
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Exactly what I said, far easier than reinstalling Windows every year.

Trevor.
 
"dave" <ricketzz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> If I didn't have an iPod I wouldn't have Windows.

Use an Apple then, that is what ipods are really designed to work with, not
Windows.

Trevor.
 
"dave" <ricketzz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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It's an Asus XP netbook I got off the junk pile at Best Buy. Genuine Intel
Atom with 2 cores.
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There's your problem then, not Windows!

Trevor.
 
On 11/24/2013 11:34 PM, Trevor wrote:
"dave" <ricketzz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I'm convinced. You guys have talked me out of ever using Windows again.

Good move, as long as you don't actually want/need any of the far greater
range of software and drivers available for Windows than any other operating
system that is.

Trevor.
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The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.

Much of what propelled Windows 20 years ago no longer matters.
 
"dave" wrote in message
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The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular
OS on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.
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In all seriousness... Is there a Linux DTP even remotely comparable to
Ventura? I ask, because I anticipate doing a series of user manuals, and they
will be done in Ventura.
 
On 11/25/2013 09:08 AM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
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The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular
OS on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.

In all seriousness... Is there a Linux DTP even remotely comparable to
Ventura? I ask, because I anticipate doing a series of user manuals, and
they will be done in Ventura.
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The latest version (as of July 2013) is Corel Ventura 10 (2002), this
version runs in Windows 8 (x86/64) with compatibility mode (w2k) and
copy "mfc42.dll" in programs corel folder. Also run over linux ubuntu
13.04 / wine, inclusive in live usb mode.

Is running it in "compatibility mode" on modern Win machines any better
than running in a compatibility mode on Ubuntu?

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Linux+DTP
 
Les Cargill wrote:
Nil wrote:
On 23 Nov 2013, Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> wrote in
rec.audio.pro:

Then it was done to clean up whatever. All I know is that unless I
rebuilt the machine once a year, it would degrade slowly in
performance.

I've owned and taken care of hundreds of Windows systems. That used
to sometimes happen in the bad old days of Windows 95 and earlier.
Not since Windows XP in my experience. If the system slows down, it's
due to some specific problems. Not from general "dirty registry"
problems.


I may or may not be actually talking about "dirty registry" problems.
I have no data to support or deny that.

I know two things:

1) In order to improve performance of a Windows machine, I would to
an annual rebuild.

2) Using Revo Uninstaller and Eusing Registry Cleaner, that "annual"
at least became a longer period - longer than the machine remained
in active service - call it three years.

Leftover registry entries and disk files don't impact performance to
any significant degree unless there are other issues.


What you say is doubtless true; nonetheless...

What I did "worked". That is all I can really say about it; I don't
have an identified cause, and only a partially perceptible
effect. I don't believe it was a placebo effect. If I had to
characterize the result, it was that general ... latency improved - a
lot - after these operations.
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Unless you are constantly installing and uninstalling apps on your system,
your observation about improved performance is more likely to be
coincicental. If you use your computer for general on-line browsing, other
factors such as a large number of temporary files and fragmented drive(s)
will affect the system performance in a fairly short period of time, but
cleaning those up only requires general maintenance.

OTOH, if you are constantly installing and uninstalling apps on your system,
it would be a good idea to learn something about the OS you're working with.
I *can* edit Windows' registry manually or otherwise, but it is very rarely
a necessity, and seldom results in such things as improved latency. The
registry would have to be pretty screwed up to affect that kind of thing,
and there aren't a lot of things that a user can do to screw it up that
badly. ;-)
--
best regards,

Neil
 
dave wrote
The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.
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Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
On 11/25/2013 10:41 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
dave wrote

The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.


Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.


What about Android, kind sir?.
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
dave wrote
The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.


Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.


The figure for which OS is most common depends how you count them.
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Windows is *far* ahead of anything else on the desktop.

Linux gets its numbers up by being run on many, many servers in
backrooms all over the world and in embedded systems. If you have a PVR,
for instance, there's a good chance that it runs using a Linux kernel
with custom software on top. There's an installation in Hollywood or
thereabouts that accounts for many thousands of Linux installations, as
it is used for parallel processing of movie CGI content. The kernels are
Linux, the software was written in house.

You'll know Linux is getting popular on the desktop when they start
advertising anti-virus programs for it,as that will mean it's common
enough for the black hats to be interested.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.
 
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:55:17 -0800, dave <ricketzz@earthlink.net>
wrote:

On 11/25/2013 10:41 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

dave wrote

The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
application for it.


Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.


What about Android, kind sir?.
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Android is just an overlay on top of Linux.

d
 
John Williamson wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
? dave wrote
?? The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
?? on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
?? application for it.
?
?
? Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
? server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
? One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
? artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
? their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.
?
?
The figure for which OS is most common depends how you count them.

Windows is *far* ahead of anything else on the desktop.

Linux gets its numbers up by being run on many, many servers in
backrooms all over the world and in embedded systems. If you have a PVR,
for instance, there's a good chance that it runs using a Linux kernel
with custom software on top. There's an installation in Hollywood or
thereabouts that accounts for many thousands of Linux installations, as
it is used for parallel processing of movie CGI content. The kernels are
Linux, the software was written in house.

You'll know Linux is getting popular on the desktop when they start
advertising anti-virus programs for it,as that will mean it's common
enough for the black hats to be interested.
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There are still plenty of servers running various versions of
Windows. If there weren't, there would be no new versions released top
the market. Now tell what the ratio of servers to users is. It's not
enough to tip the balance.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
dave wrote:
On 11/25/2013 10:41 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
?
? dave wrote
??
?? The fastest computers on the planet run Linux. It is the most popular OS
?? on the planet (or soon will be). If there is a task there is an
?? application for it.
?
?
? Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
? server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
? One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
? artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
? their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.
?
?
What about Android, kind sir?.
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Are you really that stupid? Should we start calling you 'Always
Wrong V2.0'? The statistics for ALL VERSIONS were barely over 10%. I
know you're a union drone, and had the mandatory IBEW lobotomy, but
learn to read and think. YOu aren't clever, and you can't even troll
past the kindergarten level.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
 
dave wrote:

> I'm convinced. You guys have talked me out of ever using Windows again.

I Stopped using Windows 10 years ago. it's the best move i have ever made.
for both a freedom standpoint, as well as a security standpoint.
 
Trevor wrote:

Good move, as long as you don't actually want/need any of the far greater
range of software and drivers available for Windows than any other
operating system that is.

Trevor.
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Actually, there is more driver support in GNU/Linux then there ever was in
Windows, especially, with older hardware, Printers, Scanners, Motherboard
Chipsets.

as far as software is concerned, i find a great deal more usable, Safe,
Spyware-free software in my Distributions Repository.
 
William Sommerwerck wrote:


In all seriousness... Is there a Linux DTP even remotely comparable to
Ventura? I ask, because I anticipate doing a series of user manuals, and
they will be done in Ventura.
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Scribus
http://www.scribus.net/canvas/Scribus

thay have a Windows port of it so you can try it out & maybe take the time
to learn to use it.

the good things is that it is Free Software (F.O.S.S), it is current & is
under constant development. & it is well regarded & widely used in collage
campuses.
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Such outrageous claims. If you managed websites and looked at the
server logs you would see that Windows is well ahead of anything else.
One company told me their customers all used Macs since they were
artists. They were shocked to find they accounted for under 10% of
their page visits, and All versions of Linux were barely over 10%.
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Well, that depends on what websites are giving stats like that. there are
websites that exist that most of their traffic is from Linux users. there
are also sites that cater to B.S.D. users.

you cannot base Linux usage just from the logs of one or two websites.
 
John Williamson wrote:

You'll know Linux is getting popular on the desktop when they start
advertising anti-virus programs for it,as that will mean it's common
enough for the black hats to be interested.
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Wrong, GNU?Linux is NOT Windows. Neither in design or philosophy. GNU/Linux
was built from the ground up using proper coding practices & constant
development with many eyes examining the code.

there is Antivirus applications for Linux, but it's sole purpose is to
protect Windows PC's on the same network, or on Linux Mail servers to scan
for Windows malware.
 
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