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Rich Webb wrote:
save to disk without modifying the PDF.
Seems worth mentioning that the free version of Foxit will not
save to disk without modifying the PDF.
Guest
John Larkin wrote:
modifying the PDF. The free version of Foxit doesn't.
Paid version? The free version of AA Reader saves to disk without
modifying the PDF. The free version of Foxit doesn't.
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Martin Griffith
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:25:48 +0000, in sci.electronics.design
invalid@example.com wrote:
Are you an Adobe troll?
Martin
invalid@example.com wrote:
Are you an Adobe troll?
Martin
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Martin Griffith wrote:
and liked it, and saved dozens of data sheets to my hard drive, only to find out
later that it had modified every one. I had to find them all again and save
them using the sucky Acrobat Reader. If someone is promoting a paid replacement
for the free Adobe PDF reader, they should point that out and that the free
version of the replacement lacks functionality.
No! Adobe sux whale shit! My problem with foxit is that I used the free version
and liked it, and saved dozens of data sheets to my hard drive, only to find out
later that it had modified every one. I had to find them all again and save
them using the sucky Acrobat Reader. If someone is promoting a paid replacement
for the free Adobe PDF reader, they should point that out and that the free
version of the replacement lacks functionality.
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Jeff Liebermann
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Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> hath wroth:
imbeded in JavaScribble, PHP, or whatever. For example, it will fail
on just about all the transactions, standards, abstracts, and pubs on
the IEEE web pile, that claim to be PDF's, but are really scripts that
make sure you're a valid IEEE member.
For these, just hit the "Bypass PDF Download" button. It will open
the PDF viewer and you can save it from there. The screenshots page
above seems to have an old sample of the PDFdownload screen as it's
missing the "Bypass PDF Download" button.
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Yep. The link has to end in a PDF. It can't do redirected links
imbeded in JavaScribble, PHP, or whatever. For example, it will fail
on just about all the transactions, standards, abstracts, and pubs on
the IEEE web pile, that claim to be PDF's, but are really scripts that
make sure you're a valid IEEE member.
For these, just hit the "Bypass PDF Download" button. It will open
the PDF viewer and you can save it from there. The screenshots page
above seems to have an old sample of the PDFdownload screen as it's
missing the "Bypass PDF Download" button.
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Jeff Liebermann
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John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> hath wroth:
on some link, that redirects to a PDF file. When I was using Adobe
Acrobat 6.x and 7.x, the PDF viewer would take literally forever to
appear and load the file. If I try to abort, it would usually hang
the browser. Even if I didn't abort, the older Acrobat's would
eventually hang the browser or crash on shutdown. Running Acrobat as
a plugin (as opposed to a helper application) inside the browser was a
bad idea.
I got into the habit of saving all the PDF files and viewing them
outside the browser. That worked well, but I still would get
unexpectedly hit with HTML wrappers and redirection pointing to PDF
files.
If you know that the link is a PDF file you want to save or view, you
can do it all in Firefox the way you describe. However, if you hit
one the redirected links, you end up either saving the useless link,
or having to load the viewer just to save the PDF.
The PDFdownload Firefox plug-in gives only a little better control
over how to deal with PDF's. However, it's enough to justify
installing it. With it, I can decide what to do with the PDF before
it tries to start Acrobat.
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
For me, the major benefit to PDFdownload is when I accidentally click
on some link, that redirects to a PDF file. When I was using Adobe
Acrobat 6.x and 7.x, the PDF viewer would take literally forever to
appear and load the file. If I try to abort, it would usually hang
the browser. Even if I didn't abort, the older Acrobat's would
eventually hang the browser or crash on shutdown. Running Acrobat as
a plugin (as opposed to a helper application) inside the browser was a
bad idea.
I got into the habit of saving all the PDF files and viewing them
outside the browser. That worked well, but I still would get
unexpectedly hit with HTML wrappers and redirection pointing to PDF
files.
If you know that the link is a PDF file you want to save or view, you
can do it all in Firefox the way you describe. However, if you hit
one the redirected links, you end up either saving the useless link,
or having to load the viewer just to save the PDF.
The PDFdownload Firefox plug-in gives only a little better control
over how to deal with PDF's. However, it's enough to justify
installing it. With it, I can decide what to do with the PDF before
it tries to start Acrobat.
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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Rich Webb
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:36:06 +0100, Martin Griffith
<mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:
notes (that don't show when printed) or type additional text onto the
page (that does print), plus use some basic drawing tools.
I can't comment on "the free version of Foxit will not
save to disk without modifying the PDF" since I don't have the free
version but the current (ver 2.2) paid version does not modify a saved
file (unless I've used one of the annotation tools, of course). A PDF
saved directly from the link and one opened in Foxit and then saved
compare bit-for-bit identical.
Foxit does remember the last used location in a saved file (in its
registry tree, I assume) which is sometimes handy, sometimes annoying,
but the "state" information is external to the file.
<mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:
Bog yes, it's very handy. Lets me highlight, cross-out, insert pop-up
notes (that don't show when printed) or type additional text onto the
page (that does print), plus use some basic drawing tools.
I can't comment on "the free version of Foxit will not
save to disk without modifying the PDF" since I don't have the free
version but the current (ver 2.2) paid version does not modify a saved
file (unless I've used one of the annotation tools, of course). A PDF
saved directly from the link and one opened in Foxit and then saved
compare bit-for-bit identical.
Foxit does remember the last used location in a saved file (in its
registry tree, I assume) which is sometimes handy, sometimes annoying,
but the "state" information is external to the file.
D
David L. Jones
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On Nov 18, 9:25 am, inva...@example.com wrote:
original, the files are exactly the same. Nothing has been modified by
Foxit.
Also, I re-installed acrobat and tried that to read the PDF saved with
Foxit, and it works just fine as you'd expect.
Also, even if it did it's super easy to use your browser to save the
file to disk first. My Firefox pops up every time asking if I wish to
download the file or save it first and then download.
Dave.
Yes it does. I just tried it, and I did a file compare with the
original, the files are exactly the same. Nothing has been modified by
Foxit.
Also, I re-installed acrobat and tried that to read the PDF saved with
Foxit, and it works just fine as you'd expect.
Also, even if it did it's super easy to use your browser to save the
file to disk first. My Firefox pops up every time asking if I wish to
download the file or save it first and then download.
Dave.
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Rene Tschaggelar
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David L. Jones wrote:
Rene
Flush the browser plug in. That is just 3cm less space above.
Rene
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qrk
Guest
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:53 +0000, invalid@example.com wrote:
visible evidence of file modification unless you place a comment in
the PDF using the free version. This is clearly stated in their web
page, or, it was a year ago. They also state in their web page that
the free version lacks certain funtionality. Seems that you didn't
read. If you don't like them placing an advert in you PDF, then use
their payware version.
that you found offensive? Perhaps I'm blind, but I've never seen any
visible evidence of file modification unless you place a comment in
the PDF using the free version. This is clearly stated in their web
page, or, it was a year ago. They also state in their web page that
the free version lacks certain funtionality. Seems that you didn't
read. If you don't like them placing an advert in you PDF, then use
their payware version.
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Rich Grise
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:48:53 +0000, invalid wrote:
directly from the browser?
Then you could read them at your leisure.
Thanks,
Rich
What prevented you from simply right-clicking the links, and saving them
directly from the browser?
Then you could read them at your leisure.
Thanks,
Rich
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Martin Griffith
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:13:26 GMT, in sci.electronics.design qrk
<SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:
foxit, then "saved as" whatever.pdf. I compare the size of the
whatever.pdf with the one in the temp directory.
They had different sizes. Strange, well speaking as a non programming
type of person, but honestly I'm not paranoid enough to care about it
Martin
<SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:
Just did a download from Linear with firefox, and it was opened up
foxit, then "saved as" whatever.pdf. I compare the size of the
whatever.pdf with the one in the temp directory.
They had different sizes. Strange, well speaking as a non programming
type of person, but honestly I'm not paranoid enough to care about it
Martin
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qrk
Guest
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:29:54 +0100, Martin Griffith
<mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:
reference guide (2M). Did a file compare. No differences between the
files. I'm using FoxitReader 2.2.2129.
<mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:
I tried the same thing on an AD811 data sheet (150k) and a PSpice
reference guide (2M). Did a file compare. No differences between the
files. I'm using FoxitReader 2.2.2129.
J
JosephKK
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David L. Jones altzone@gmail.com posted to sci.electronics.design:
printed. The first noticeable advance since AR 4. The rest of the
bloat between those versions does nothing as far as i can tell.
Actually AR 7 provides for content that can be filed in and then
printed. The first noticeable advance since AR 4. The rest of the
bloat between those versions does nothing as far as i can tell.
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Mike
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In article <sprqj3d2gi8rjkrdn6hlevv55d6rn9kaoi@4ax.com>,
Martin Griffith <mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:
updates.
Under Win 98SE it lets you view a handful of PDFs before blue screening the
PC without warning. A Google reveals other people to be having the same
problem, no fix forthcoming, and an email to Foxit got a foboff.
"We have test it with Windows 98 and it is not as serious problem as yours.
Please reinstall your system".
Sometimes free software really is worth exactly what you paid for it ...
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Martin Griffith <mart_in_medina@ya___.es> wrote:
Used to use V1.3, upgraded to 2.0 to get the JBIG/JPG2000 compression
updates.
Under Win 98SE it lets you view a handful of PDFs before blue screening the
PC without warning. A Google reveals other people to be having the same
problem, no fix forthcoming, and an email to Foxit got a foboff.
"We have test it with Windows 98 and it is not as serious problem as yours.
Please reinstall your system".
Sometimes free software really is worth exactly what you paid for it ...
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TheM
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"Mike" <mjb@posie.local.dom> wrote in message news:fhssek$ajf$1@posie.local.dom...
Even M$ is not supporting Win98 anymore, why should foxit? Move on or live with its
short-comings.
M
Adobe Reader is free as well and is pretty much worthless and going worse since version 4.
Even M$ is not supporting Win98 anymore, why should foxit? Move on or live with its
short-comings.
M
M
Mike
Guest
In article <LLe1j.1270$HS3.41922@news.siol.net>,
TheM <DontNeedSpam@test.com> wrote:
In that they say it supports Windows 98, yet it didn't.
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TheM <DontNeedSpam@test.com> wrote:
Ah, that's not good news.
Broken question: Actually they do (did?) support Win98. Well, claim to.
In that they say it supports Windows 98, yet it didn't.
I did, I moved on from Foxit back to a newer version of Adobe, which worked.
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Jim Thompson
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:43:13 GMT, qrk <SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:
that can be saved by recipients and E-mailed back?
I send out Adobe Acrobat created forms, but recipients can't save and
return the filled-in form :-(
...Jim Thompson
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Mark, Do you know of any PDF creator that can create fillable forms
that can be saved by recipients and E-mailed back?
I send out Adobe Acrobat created forms, but recipients can't save and
return the filled-in form :-(
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Spehro Pefhany
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:54:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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You don't have Acrobat 8? ;-)
Best regards,
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Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:07:50 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
their stuff has become SO bad they must think they are Micro$hit ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
I have v7 and have no intent to go any further with Adobe crap...
their stuff has become SO bad they must think they are Micro$hit ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax
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