Best PDF viewer?

I used to use Acrobat 5, which for my money was the last "good" PDF
reader/writer. I recently bought ($50) CutePDF Pro, which comes on special
with the forms filler. Easier than A-5 for fillable forms.

Jim

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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Mark, Do you know of any PDF creator that can create fillable forms
that can be saved by recipients and E-mailed back?

I send out Adobe Acrobat created forms, but recipients can't save and
return the filled-in form :-(

...Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:03:13 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
<jim@rstengineering.com> wrote:

I used to use Acrobat 5, which for my money was the last "good" PDF
reader/writer. I recently bought ($50) CutePDF Pro, which comes on special
with the forms filler. Easier than A-5 for fillable forms.

Jim
My problem is sending the forms to people who must fill out the
forms... and they only have the free Adobe Reader.

Adobe Reader doesn't allow saving a filled-in from or returning the
filled-out form by E-mail.

Is there any solution to that?

...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
My problem is sending the forms to people who must fill out the
forms... and they only have the free Adobe Reader.

Adobe Reader doesn't allow saving a filled-in from
or returning the filled-out form by E-mail.
My 1st thought was to sent them the thing in *.DOC,
have them fill in the blanks and do a Print-to-document
thru one of the many Output-as-PDF printer drivers,
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:R3zf5RKJrK4J:en.wikilib.com/wiki/List_of_PDF_software+Ghostscript+generates.PDFs+virtual.printer+watermarks+adware+Disclaimers+driver+last.modified+Doesn't.require+does-not-*&strip=1#Creator
then have them sent the PDF back to you.

....then I thought about **why PDF?**
I'm thinking you want the *data* portions to be easily edited
but NOT the *boilerplate*--so you don't have to
go back over the whole thing with a fine-toothed comb.
Yes??
I don't use Adobe's PDF-creation app,
but I'm assuming this can be done with *locked layers*
--but **they** need to have the writer app to do this
(and one assumes the proper VERSION).

PDF editing sounds like a quagmire.

ISTM this is something to do thru a Web page e.g. Javascript.
 
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:14:24 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:03:13 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"

I used to use Acrobat 5, which for my money was the last "good" PDF
reader/writer. I recently bought ($50) CutePDF Pro, which comes on
special with the forms filler. Easier than A-5 for fillable forms.

My problem is sending the forms to people who must fill out the forms...
and they only have the free Adobe Reader.

Adobe Reader doesn't allow saving a filled-in from or returning the
filled-out form by E-mail.

Is there any solution to that?
MS Word, if they have MS Word. It has a fill-in form facility,
where the filled-in form is savable, but the form itself is
write-protected, and can be password-protected.

If the customer doesn't have Word, you could put an HTML form
on your web page and write a little script to capture the data
and print it in any format you want.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
Jim Thompson To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com posted to
sci.electronics.design:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:43:13 GMT, qrk <SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:41:46 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

I've finally had a gut-full of Acrobat reader, it just goes from
bad to worse. It used to be excellent but now I can't stand it.
Damn thing locks up all the time (esp when shutting down Windows)
and generally screws things up. And the browser plug-in is
borderline useless, which makes viewing 50 datasheets a day a real
pain.

What are the alternatives people are using?

Note, I'm talking about a PDF *viewer*, not a PDF creator.

Thanks
Dave.

As others have responded:
Foxit Reader for viewing. While not perfect, I used it 100% for
looking at data sheets. Comes up fast and works well. If you use
Mozilla, there are ways of preventing Acrobat from coming up in your
browser.

I use PDFCreator for my PDF printer driver. Another wrapper around
GhostScript.

---
Mark

Mark, Do you know of any PDF creator that can create fillable forms
that can be saved by recipients and E-mailed back?

I send out Adobe Acrobat created forms, but recipients can't save
and return the filled-in form :-(

...Jim Thompson
In the MSWin world AR 8 can do this. Not in any other case that i
know of.
 
Jim Thompson To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com posted to
sci.electronics.design:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:07:50 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:54:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:43:13 GMT, qrk <SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:41:46 -0800 (PST), "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

I've finally had a gut-full of Acrobat reader, it just goes from
bad to worse. It used to be excellent but now I can't stand it.
Damn thing locks up all the time (esp when shutting down Windows)
and generally screws things up. And the browser plug-in is
borderline useless, which makes viewing 50 datasheets a day a
real pain.

What are the alternatives people are using?

Note, I'm talking about a PDF *viewer*, not a PDF creator.

Thanks
Dave.

As others have responded:
Foxit Reader for viewing. While not perfect, I used it 100% for
looking at data sheets. Comes up fast and works well. If you use
Mozilla, there are ways of preventing Acrobat from coming up in
your browser.

I use PDFCreator for my PDF printer driver. Another wrapper around
GhostScript.

---
Mark

Mark, Do you know of any PDF creator that can create fillable forms
that can be saved by recipients and E-mailed back?

I send out Adobe Acrobat created forms, but recipients can't save
and return the filled-in form :-(

...Jim Thompson

You don't have Acrobat 8? ;-)


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I have v7 and have no intent to go any further with Adobe crap...
their stuff has become SO bad they must think they are Micro$hit ;-)

...Jim Thompson
Actually, they always have. Remember Adobe Type Manager?
They owned the original Postscript (tm) patents. (from their old *nix
days)
 
RST Engineering (jw) jim@rstengineering.com posted to
sci.electronics.design:

I used to use Acrobat 5, which for my money was the last "good" PDF
reader/writer. I recently bought ($50) CutePDF Pro, which comes on
special
with the forms filler. Easier than A-5 for fillable forms.

Jim
When they have a worthwhile fillable forms writer i might get
interested.
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
My problem is sending the forms to people who must fill out the
forms... and they only have the free Adobe Reader.

Adobe Reader doesn't allow saving a filled-in from
or returning the filled-out form by E-mail.
Boris' link news:k27mm3pn1pomjscag9gvb619jkvj26k8cn@4ax.com
may have provided the answer:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:p-peHwsdpRYJ:www.pdfescape.com+No-*+*-Web-Browser-with-JavaScript-*+*-*-PDF-form-you-want-customers-to-fill-out-*-*-*-*-*+*-*-*-*-buy+Acrobat+zzz+Free+add+Requirements&strip=1
 
Try the PDF-XChange Viewer - it will do numerous things that others
wont allow and its also free, and you CAN fill and save forms.

http://www.docu-track.com/home/prod_user/pdfx_viewer/?act[69]=scr_shot

there is both a standard version thats about 13MB to download and
inlcudes help files etc - or a portable version that is just over MB
to download.

HTH

Stoufville




On 7 Dec 2007, 05:40, JosephKK <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
RST Engineering (jw) j...@rstengineering.com posted to
sci.electronics.design:

I used to use Acrobat 5, which for my money was the last "good"PDF
reader/writer.  I recently bought ($50) CutePDF Pro, which comes on
special
with the forms filler.  Easier than A-5 for fillable forms.

Jim

When they have a worthwhile fillable forms writer i might get
interested.
 

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