audio recording on IC -help wanted

"Lewin A.R.W. Edwards" wrote:
Aha! This is something I'm not doing. I keep CE# low all the time.

Let me know if it works out!
It didn't. I'm gonna check all signals with a scope. Also, I may try
another brand of card, maybe the problem is specific to the one I'm
using for my tests (SMFV002, now obsolete).

Thierry
 
The VA capacity of the whole transformer is determined by the iron size and
stack size.

The ampere max capacity is determined by the wire size of each winding to
the VA capacity of the trans. Sometimes the wire size can be seen.

"Sean Mathias" <seanm@prosolve.com> wrote in message
news:idjmhvcmsbvon6tb9a47o1e6bu03mmusl4@4ax.com...
I have a number of power transformers I have picked up and am looking
to use one for a specific application. Most are completely unmarked.
It is generally easy enough to determine the pinnings through
continuity and resistance checks, likewise by connecting it to a
source, the voltages are easily determined. What I am struggling with
is how to determine the current it is designed or rated for, any
suggestions?

Thanks,

Sean Mathias
 
"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
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William P.N. Smith <wpns@compusmiths.com> wrote in message
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I've seen others recommend something similar to the first stage, but
they then apply that higher voltage once a week or so during float to
"equalize" charge. I'm not sure exactly what's unequal that requires
this... I do realize that not all cells will be identical but I'm not
sure how these differences are overcome by overcharging, as all the
currents in the series string are guaranteed to be identical.

And if at all possible I'd like to see these recommendations rise from
"old wives tales" to actual documentation by the battery makers. (As
opposed to sales hype by the charger makers!)
Actually, 'equalizer' charging goes back to Navy submarine battery days.
The Navy did a lot of research into prolonging lead-acid battery life. It
cost quite a bit to change out a battery on a submarine ;-)

Lead sulphate is formed when batteries discharge. Charging converts this
back to lead (neg), lead-dioxide (pos) and sulphuric acid. But individual
differences in cells prevent all the cells from charging to 100% at the same
time. Over time, some cells can develop 'trees' of sulphate that lead to
shedding of material and internal shorting. Deliberately overcharging using
a specific current will help fully charge cells that otherwise would not be
at full charge. It is true the current is the same through a series of
cells, but the overcharging doesn't harm the other cells if done properly.
The good cells will be warmed up, and some water will be lost through
electrolysis.

The equalizer charge is 'old', but it is not a wive's tale.

As part of equalizing charge on the boat, we would 1) water the battery
bringing levels up to spec. 2) Charged normally until current was down to
the equalizing current 3) held this current for 3 hours, letting voltage
rise as much as it wanted 4) took SpGr of each cell and watered again if
needed. IIRC, we did it once a month or after a total of 4000Ah
charging/discharging. Of course, our batteries were a 'bit' bigger than
most homeenergy systems ;-)

daestrom
 
Pat Ford wrote:


speaking of lead acid battery old wives tales, the tale about not leaving a
lead acid battery on concrete, fact or fiction??
Here is the official word. Direct from Click and Clack of Car Talk fame:

Ray: Thirty years ago or so, most battery casings were made of hard
rubber. And because of the porosity of that material, battery acid would
sometimes seep through the rubber and create a conductive path through
the damp concrete, draining the battery.

Tom: But that can't happen today with plastic-cased batteries. That's
because molded polypropylene (a k a plastic), is not porous at all.

Ray: So today, you can put your battery on a concrete floor for as long
as you want. And here's the interesting thing. The cooler the
temperature, the slower a battery's rate of discharge. And because
concrete is often cooler than its surroundings, leaving a modern battery
on a concrete floor might actually make it last LONGER.

--
Glenn Ashmore

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Hiya!

I don't have a datasheet, but look here:

http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/PDF/HotRodSchem.pdf

on page 6, this arcade PCB uses them, and shows what pin connects to
what.

Yours, Mark.


Eric Williams wrote:
I have a couple of these I'd like to use but I can't find the pinouts
for them. Specifically, they are Fujitsu MB81464-10, date code looks
like 1986. If you have data, please email, thanks!
--
eric
 
Hiya!

Actually, it says it in the centre of the chip, but it's not clear.

I've just checked them on a board here, and Vcc is Pin 15, and GND is
pin 4.

Yours, Mark.

Eric Williams wrote:
Hmmm... Very close, but doesn't show which pins are VSS and VDD.

"Mark (UK)" <jumbos.bazzar@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:<3F22CE30.EF6968ED@btopenworld.com>...
Hiya!

I don't have a datasheet, but look here:

http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/PDF/HotRodSchem.pdf

on page 6, this arcade PCB uses them, and shows what pin connects to
what.

Yours, Mark.


Eric Williams wrote:

I have a couple of these I'd like to use but I can't find the pinouts
for them. Specifically, they are Fujitsu MB81464-10, date code looks
like 1986. If you have data, please email, thanks!
--
eric
 
In article <c51eb5d5.0307260910.1ef1f0dc@posting.google.com>,
wd6cmu@earthlink.net (Eric Williams) wrote:

I have a couple of these I'd like to use but I can't find the pinouts
for them. Specifically, they are Fujitsu MB81464-10, date code looks
like 1986. If you have data, please email, thanks!
--
eric
If you have dual in line:

1 G inverted
2 DQ1
3 DQ2
4 W Inverted
5 RAS Inverted
6 A6
7 A5
8 A4
9 Vcc

10 A7
11 A3
12 A2
13 A1
14 A0
15 DQ3
16 CAS Inverted
17 DQ4
18 Vss


From "Data Book Memories" Fujitsu 1985-1987


/Per-Ake

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I have a few tubes of these if you need any more...

John ;-#)#

On 26 Jul 2003 10:11:00 -0700, wd6cmu@earthlink.net (Eric Williams)
wrote:

I have a couple of these I'd like to use but I can't find the pinouts
for them. Specifically, they are Fujitsu MB81464-10, date code looks
like 1986. If you have data, please email, thanks!
(Please post followups or tech enquires to the newsgroup)
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Robbie Banks wrote:
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:18:24 +0200, "Jerzy Hoffmann" <jhoff@alpro.com.pl> wrote:

Hi!
I have unknown chip on board.
We can say about it few points:
- that is 14 pin DIP package
- its programable chip, because has a revision number drawn on sticker
- someone remove any characters and type marks from it.
- production date is (95-98 )

I have a question: what tape of chip can it be ?
I will be very grateful for any answer.
Jerzy Hoffman
PIC16C505 ?
 
In alt.solar.photovoltaic

ehsjr@bellatlantic.net wrote:
: "William P.N. Smith" wrote:
:> "Fred B. McGalliard" <frederick.b.mcgalliard@boeing.com> wrote:
:> >This is generally done with a low value resistor shunting a low voltage
:> >meter.
:>
:> Speaking of shunts, what's a good source for them? I need to turn 'a
:> couple of amps peak' into {2.5,7.5,25} mV
:
: You can make your own. Run a known current through a bare piece
: of wire. Attach one voltmeter lead to one end of the wire and
: slide the other lead along the wire until you read the voltage
: you are after.

To make one that can be used in the battery
circuit it would probably need a heavy piece of
brass or copper for the shunt.

Large industrial shunts that allow a remote
meter movement without running the heavy wire to
the meter uses what appears to be a square bar
of brass with a cross section of almost an inch
and about 4 inches long.

The meter wires attach to two screws about
two inches apart on the brass bar.
This allows a 500 milliamp meter movement
to read amperage up to 800 amps.

It could be done with any solid brass
object that could be placed in series between
the batteries and the load (copper would probably
corrode but might work), and with the meter wires
just attached a couple of inches apart on the shunt,
vary the load and interpret what the meter movement reads.

Safety goggles would be a good idea.

Joe Fischer

--
3
 
Low value shunts are usually made with wire. You could use ordinary wire, or
a much shorter piece of resistance wire, like what you find in toasters,
hair dryers, and the like. If you wrap your own, you should probably wrap it
as a low inductance coil, with turns carrying current in both directions
around the core, what you would get if you wrapped a hairpin of wire.

"William P.N. Smith" <wpns@compusmiths.com> wrote in message
news:re8giv4pqgdpbus5ijufmsh4kcotnn8kmv@4ax.com...
"Fred B. McGalliard" <frederick.b.mcgalliard@boeing.com> wrote:
This is generally done with a low value resistor shunting a low voltage
meter.

Speaking of shunts, what's a good source for them? I need to turn 'a
couple of amps peak' into {2.5,7.5,25} mV

Thanks!

--
William Smith wpns@compusmiths.com N1JBJ@amsat.org
ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com
 
Joe Fischer wrote:
In alt.solar.photovoltaic

ehsjr@bellatlantic.net wrote:
: "William P.N. Smith" wrote:
:> "Fred B. McGalliard" <frederick.b.mcgalliard@boeing.com> wrote:
:> >This is generally done with a low value resistor shunting a low voltage
:> >meter.
:
:> Speaking of shunts, what's a good source for them? I need to turn 'a
:> couple of amps peak' into {2.5,7.5,25} mV
:
: You can make your own. Run a known current through a bare piece
: of wire. Attach one voltmeter lead to one end of the wire and
: slide the other lead along the wire until you read the voltage
: you are after.

To make one that can be used in the battery
circuit it would probably need a heavy piece of
brass or copper for the shunt.

Large industrial shunts that allow a remote
meter movement without running the heavy wire to
the meter uses what appears to be a square bar
of brass with a cross section of almost an inch
and about 4 inches long.

The meter wires attach to two screws about
two inches apart on the brass bar.
This allows a 500 milliamp meter movement
to read amperage up to 800 amps.

It could be done with any solid brass
object that could be placed in series between
the batteries and the load (copper would probably
corrode but might work), and with the meter wires
just attached a couple of inches apart on the shunt,
vary the load and interpret what the meter movement reads.
The OP stated "a couple of amps", so he's not looking for the
kind of shunts you describe. I picked up a bunch of that kind
at a hamfest for 50 cents each, but the biggest one was good
for only 100 amps. They have two big brass (?) bars, separated
by about 1". The bars are connected by a narrower calibrating
piece running from one to the other.


Safety goggles would be a good idea.

Joe Fischer

--
3
 
In article <pgcWa.31047$YN5.27321@sccrnsc01>,
Louie <beavisnbutthead@softhome.net> wrote:

hi anyone,

i have a small electronic component that i can't identify. it looks like
a typical 1n4001 diode, similar size and shape with axial leads, but
there's no marking on it except for a single yellow stripe at the
midpoint.

i got a switch mode power supply and it has about a dozen of these
things in the circuit.

what are they?

thanx, louie
"Pull-an-idea-out-of-thin-air" guess:
A capacitor?

When the surface-mount stuff started showing up, I saw a *LOT* of tiny
capacitors that appeared much like you describe - almost identical to a
1n4xxx diode. The clue that they wren't actually diodes was the way they
were used in the circuits I saw them in - anyplace you'd expect a
decoupling capacitor for a chip, one of these litle guys was sitting.
Found out later that they were the spiffy new surface mount caps,
adapted to fit a board designed around "human-sized" parts. At least one
enterprising company (never figured out exactly who it was) got a
boatload of these newfangled "ultra-micro-mini" caps that weren't much
bigger than about 3-4 grains of salt, and proceeded to attach leads,
then wrap the whole thing in glass so that standard resistor-handling
machines could pick-n-place 'em in older circuit designs.

Might be what you're looking at, especially if it's an older PS...

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Cheers.

Sorry. Amended my ways cos' it wasb't working and put it on a web URL.

Apologies

Robbie

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Robbie Banks wrote:


Robbie

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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
In alt.solar.photovoltaic

Lizard Blizzard <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote:
: Joe Fischer wrote:
:> The meter wires attach to two screws about
:> two inches apart on the brass bar.
:> This allows a 500 milliamp meter movement
:> to read amperage up to 800 amps.
:
: Umm, first off, he said 'a couple of amps', NOT Hoover Dam!

That was a big shunt, the principle is the same.

: Second, you didn't mean 500 mA meter movement, right? The usual meter
: for this is a 50 mV, not mA.

I have had meter movements that were 100 milliamps
full scale, 500, and 1000.

There are no volt meter movements, all volt meters
are one amp (or less) meter movements in series with a
resistor. I think a one amp movement requires a 55000
ohm resistor to make a DC volt meter with about a 100 volt
full scale.
This is just from memory from 1951 when I made
my first volt meter and found that being able to
interpret the reading is just as important as
having a precision meter.

Joe Fischer

--
3
 
In sci.electronics.design aurgathor <spam-me@if-you.com> wrote:
What would be a simple, but effective circuit
to completely discharge them without any
damage to them? I got a bunch of them, and
now they all have varying capacities.

I'm thinking about an 1N4001 in series with
a 33 ohm, which would drain them to about
0.7V, but I have a feeling that might be a
little too much.

Would a couple of discharge / recharge cycle
help to regain some of the lost capacity?
Probably not.
There is no real benefit in going below around 0.9V/cell or so.
You imply that you mean doing this per cell.
If this is so, it's safe, but if you do it with a battery, you
must observe individual cell voltages, and check that none approach
0V. (going to 0V isn't too bad, going below is)

What you can do is to put them all in series, give a constant current charge
of C/10 for 20 hours or so, to make sure they are all fully charged.
Then discharge in series, checking every 50mah or so, and thereby sort the
cells by capacity, taking the lowest capacity ones out first.

This lets you roughly match sets of cells.

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---------------------------+-------------------------+--------------------------
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Joe Fischer wrote:

In alt.solar.photovoltaic

Lizard Blizzard <NOSPAM@rsccd.org> wrote:
: Joe Fischer wrote:
:> The meter wires attach to two screws about
:> two inches apart on the brass bar.
:> This allows a 500 milliamp meter movement
:> to read amperage up to 800 amps.
:
: Umm, first off, he said 'a couple of amps', NOT Hoover Dam!

That was a big shunt, the principle is the same.

: Second, you didn't mean 500 mA meter movement, right? The usual meter
: for this is a 50 mV, not mA.

I have had meter movements that were 100 milliamps
full scale, 500, and 1000.

There are no volt meter movements, all volt meters
are one amp (or less) meter movements in series with a
resistor. I think a one amp movement requires a 55000
ohm resistor to make a DC volt meter with about a 100 volt
full scale.
This is just from memory from 1951 when I made
my first volt meter and found that being able to
interpret the reading is just as important as
having a precision meter.

Joe Fischer

--
3
Most commercial shunts are marked to be used with a 50 millivolt meter.

Bill K7NOM
 
"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bggfob$hv4$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
There is no real benefit in going below around 0.9V/cell or so.
Does anyone know any easily obtainable (read Radio Shack ;-)
diode with a Vf of 0.85 - 0.9V?

You imply that you mean doing this per cell.
Of course!!

If this is so, it's safe, but if you do it with a battery, you
must observe individual cell voltages, and check that none approach
0V. (going to 0V isn't too bad, going below is)
This isn't a battery pack, these are mostly standalone C's and D's.
What you can do is to put them all in series, give a constant current
charge
of C/10 for 20 hours or so, to make sure they are all fully charged.
Then discharge in series, checking every 50mah or so, and thereby sort the
cells by capacity, taking the lowest capacity ones out first.

This lets you roughly match sets of cells.
This might be a good idea, but I consider it too much hassle ;-)

I just want to rig a battery holder to make it a discharger, put
the batteries in, remove them a day later, put them in the charger
(which stops charging when the battery is full) and repeat this
cycle a couple of times.

The thing I wasn't sure whether discharging it to 0.7V or so, and
keeping it there for a few hours would have any adverse consequence.
 
In sci.electronics.design aurgathor <spam-me@if-you.com> wrote:
"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bggfob$hv4$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
There is no real benefit in going below around 0.9V/cell or so.

Does anyone know any easily obtainable (read Radio Shack ;-)
diode with a Vf of 0.85 - 0.9V?

You imply that you mean doing this per cell.

Of course!!
Just checking...
If this is so, it's safe, but if you do it with a battery, you
must observe individual cell voltages, and check that none approach
0V. (going to 0V isn't too bad, going below is)

This isn't a battery pack, these are mostly standalone C's and D's.

What you can do is to put them all in series, give a constant current
charge
of C/10 for 20 hours or so, to make sure they are all fully charged.
Then discharge in series, checking every 50mah or so, and thereby sort the
cells by capacity, taking the lowest capacity ones out first.

This lets you roughly match sets of cells.

This might be a good idea, but I consider it too much hassle ;-)
It's actually not too bad.

I just want to rig a battery holder to make it a discharger, put
the batteries in, remove them a day later, put them in the charger
(which stops charging when the battery is full) and repeat this
cycle a couple of times.
If you'r just doing this a couple of times, then going all the way
to 0V won't harm them.
The thing I wasn't sure whether discharging it to 0.7V or so, and
keeping it there for a few hours would have any adverse consequence.
Nope.

I mentioned 0.9V, as there isn't much point in going below that.
There isn't really any damage that's done though even taking to 0V.

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