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Don Klipstein
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In article <468742c7$0$14986$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Mr.T wrote:
as low as 1670 for 750 hour soft white.
The lowest wattage CFLs I have seen produce 1700-plus lumens are the
Philips 25 watt SLS (1750 lumens) and 26 watt spirals.
incandescent (120V 750 hour) produces 1190-1210 lumens. So optimistically
an 18W CFL in new condition will match that.
which does indeed produce only about 600 lumens.
In my experience, a 13W CFL in new condition matches a 60W standard
incandescent when things are going well for the CFL.
The usual actual "standard incandescent" equivalences of CFLs in new
condition:
9W spiral - 40 watts
13W spiral - optimistically 60 watts
15W spiral - 60 watts fairly easily
18-20W spirals - 75 watts
23 watt spirals - between 75 and 100, good to perform as well as a 75
after they have aged or are running at non-optimum temperature.
25 watt Philips and 26 watt spirals - 100 watts
30 watt spirals - 100 watts after aging or when temperature is non-optimum
actual industry standard for fluorescents. I think that a more
appropriate one for incandescent-replacement CFLs should be 1 hour per
start in a 40 degree C ambient.
Meanwhile, I do have CFLs normally last a few thousand hours.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com, http://www.misty.com/~don/cfx.html)
I see 1710, 1730 and 1750 on packages having "standard" incandescents,"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4686C2AA.62D46A3@hotmail.com...
You need at least a 23W CFL to match the output of a 100W incandescent.
Ony for a good one at the start of it's life. They get even dimmer with use
though.
The table here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_lamp#Power
Shows a 100W incandescent providing 1700 lumens.
as low as 1670 for 750 hour soft white.
The lowest wattage CFLs I have seen produce 1700-plus lumens are the
Philips 25 watt SLS (1750 lumens) and 26 watt spirals.
I think some 18 watt ones produce 1200 lumens. A standard 75WIn comparison some new CFLs I have claim only 1100 lumens for an 18W and
1200 lumens for a 20W.
incandescent (120V 750 hour) produces 1190-1210 lumens. So optimistically
an 18W CFL in new condition will match that.
They're probably comparing to an industrial service 60W incandescent,The 11W CFLs claim 600 lumens and that makes them only slightly brighter
than a standard 40W bulb instead of equivalent to a 60W as claimed.
I do wish they wouldn't make these silly claims for them.
which does indeed produce only about 600 lumens.
In my experience, a 13W CFL in new condition matches a 60W standard
incandescent when things are going well for the CFL.
The usual actual "standard incandescent" equivalences of CFLs in new
condition:
9W spiral - 40 watts
13W spiral - optimistically 60 watts
15W spiral - 60 watts fairly easily
18-20W spirals - 75 watts
23 watt spirals - between 75 and 100, good to perform as well as a 75
after they have aged or are running at non-optimum temperature.
25 watt Philips and 26 watt spirals - 100 watts
30 watt spirals - 100 watts after aging or when temperature is non-optimum
That is for 3 hours per start in a 25 degree C ambient. This is theMe too, and those equally silly 8,000 hour claims.
actual industry standard for fluorescents. I think that a more
appropriate one for incandescent-replacement CFLs should be 1 hour per
start in a 40 degree C ambient.
Meanwhile, I do have CFLs normally last a few thousand hours.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com, http://www.misty.com/~don/cfx.html)