Arrow Keys Going Away

[Rick C]

It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. The Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow movement keys and the numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's a 17 inch laptop! They have all the room in the world, more than an inch on every side of the keyboard.

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed with maintaining a straight border all around the keyboard. The tilde key, on the other end from the keypad is also a narrow key, most likely because to make it full size would create a tiny bulge, maybe an eighth of an inch. No, that's too unsightly. Or they could make all the other keys on that edge an eighth of an inch wider. No, once again the keys have to be as symmetric as humanly possible.

What ever happened to "form follows function"???

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[nuny@bid.nes]

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 3:21:15 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. The
Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow movement keys and the
numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's a 17 inch laptop! They have all
the room in the world, more than an inch on every side of the keyboard.

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed with maintaining
a straight border all around the keyboard. The tilde key, on the other end
from the keypad is also a narrow key, most likely because to make it full size
would create a tiny bulge, maybe an eighth of an inch. No, that's too
unsightly. Or they could make all the other keys on that edge an eighth of
an inch wider. No, once again the keys have to be as symmetric as humanly
possible.

What ever happened to "form follows function"???

Look up "knolling".

I fully expect keys on all keyboards to soon be laid out in a grid like your
basic numeric keypad is- no more offset from the other rows.


Mark L. Fergerson

 

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:qmhj9u$civ$1
@gioia.aioe.org:
snip

I know they are not real products, per se, but in the film "The
Fate of the Furious, Charleze Theron's character uses a glass
tabletop touch surface keyboard, and *appears* to be working it
pretty well.

I am sure there is artistic license there, and the entire thing
could even be CG added.

Looked very roomy and a lot of custom stuff around the basic
advanced keyboard stuff.

I posted this because I have a Lenovo that has a touch screen lower
half which has a tablet and keyboard.

I too hate the lack of cursor keys.

 

"nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ce452779-f80e-4b09-9d65-328b4e997f2f@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 3:21:15 PM UTC-7, Rick C
wrote:
It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the
towel. The Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow
movement keys and the numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's
a 17 inch laptop! They have all the room in the world, more than
an inch on every side of the keyboard.

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed
with maintaining a straight border all around the keyboard. The
tilde key, on the other end from the keypad is also a narrow key,
most likely because to make it full size would create a tiny
bulge, maybe an eighth of an inch. No, that's too unsightly. Or
they could make all the other keys on that edge an eighth of an
inch wider. No, once again the keys have to be as symmetric as
humanly possible.

What ever happened to "form follows function"???

Look up "knolling".

I fully expect keys on all keyboards to soon be laid out in a
grid like your
basic numeric keypad is- no more offset from the other rows.


Mark L. Fergerson

I know they are not real products, per se, but in the film "The
Fate of the Furious, Charleze Theron's character uses a glass
tabletop touch surface keyboard, and *appears* to be working it
pretty well.

I am sure there is artistic license there, and the entire thing
could even be CG added.

Looked very roomy and a lot of custom stuff around the basic
advanced keyboard stuff.

 

[mpm]

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:21:15 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
> It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. ....

Well, I wouldn't worry too much about the vanishing cursor keys on your computer.

Ever hear of "Alexa"? (Amazon Echo)
The whole damn keyboard is disappearing!

I do have to say, though, it's one of the FEW refinements that the millennial crowd has helped pushed to widespread adoption. That, and maybe eliminating cords from MP3 players.

 

[Mike Coon]

In article <qmhjea$civ$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...

I too hate the lack of cursor keys.

On my Android phone and tablet I use the "Hacker's Keyboard", in
portrait, instead of the built-in soft keyboard mostly to get cursor
keys.

Mike.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 1:45:41 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

"nuny@bid.nes" <alien8752@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ce452779-f80e-4b09-9d65-328b4e997f2f@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 3:21:15 PM UTC-7, Rick C
wrote:
It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the
towel. The Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow
movement keys and the numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's
a 17 inch laptop! They have all the room in the world, more than
an inch on every side of the keyboard.

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed
with maintaining a straight border all around the keyboard. The
tilde key, on the other end from the keypad is also a narrow key,
most likely because to make it full size would create a tiny
bulge, maybe an eighth of an inch. No, that's too unsightly. Or
they could make all the other keys on that edge an eighth of an
inch wider. No, once again the keys have to be as symmetric as
humanly possible.

What ever happened to "form follows function"???

Look up "knolling".

I fully expect keys on all keyboards to soon be laid out in a
grid like your
basic numeric keypad is- no more offset from the other rows.


Mark L. Fergerson


I know they are not real products, per se, but in the film "The
Fate of the Furious, Charleze Theron's character uses a glass
tabletop touch surface keyboard, and *appears* to be working it
pretty well.

I am sure there is artistic license there, and the entire thing
could even be CG added.

Looked very roomy and a lot of custom stuff around the basic
advanced keyboard stuff.

I worked with a touch keyboard once. They are horrible. You can't touch anything without activating the keys. So how do you ever find and keep your hands in the "home" position?

Of course it was all CGI. Today Max Headroom would not even use an actor.

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 5:32:03 AM UTC-4, mpm wrote:

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:21:15 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. .....

Well, I wouldn't worry too much about the vanishing cursor keys on your computer.

Ever hear of "Alexa"? (Amazon Echo)
The whole damn keyboard is disappearing!

I do have to say, though, it's one of the FEW refinements that the millennial crowd has helped pushed to widespread adoption. That, and maybe eliminating cords from MP3 players.

To be humorous I entered a friend's name in my phone as Lzzzz. No problem until I started using it with my car. It doesn't know that is pronounced "Liz". I have to spell it out verbally which, to my surprise, seems to work..

Personally I find the talking phone thing to be a pretty big frustration factor. It truly is stupid only knowing a few canned phrases and not understanding speech at all. I use it in the car for hands free operation and half the time I still have to wait for a light or pull over to make it work. Telling it I want to "drive" somewhere does not produce the same result as telling it to "navigate".

The keyboard thing is getting critical since my left shift key has broken. It's seriously slowing down my typing, but more importantly making the process much more frustrating.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:da624482-9829-4706-b981-fa61337abcde@googlegroups.com:

Of course it was all CGI. Today Max Headroom would not even use
an actor.

You think they just had the actors tapping blindly on glass
tabletops?

Hollywood of all folks would be at the top of the "custom LCD
panel" tech. Even if it was just illuminated, non functional button
arrays.
That can be done simply by laminating a thin film btween two glass
layers and lighting it up photonically. No LCD requred.

Her stuff was responding to her taps though. Still possible to be
al CGI, however. Not likely though considering the cash Hollywood
has and the fact that custom LCD panel makers have been around a long
time.

Remember "Minority Report"?

A lot of that tech was real, and that was a long time before "Fate
of the Furious".

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:da624482-9829-4706-b981-fa61337abcde@googlegroups.com:

So how do you ever find and keep your hands in the "home"
position?

I think they actually are easier to use for us two finger typists.

I do not need to save five seconds by typing faster. I want to be
certain that what I typed is accurate, so I always look it over
first. I have made typos here though, and another news client used
to change texts on a couple occasions.

I do not need an orthodox typing manner to be productive. So I
started a course back in '73 or such, but got out of it. By the same
token, when I developed database apps, I was able to stand over the
shoulders of my users and instruct of 'show' what they needed to do
with a single hand, left or right, I know where all the keys are and
can type with either hand just fine. I ypically use two or three
fingers from each hand and check accuracy as I go. The time
difference between me and a 130wpm typist is not enough to make a
difference since I am not typing out multi-page documents.

Tabbing through a database field set is also not conducive to home
row orthodox typing practice. Computer users around the world are
happy that they can make use of their tools without formal typist
training. It really only provides useful betterment for someone
planning to write copius amounts of material.

It would have allowed me to type this out twice as fast or more,
but then, I would not have had these extra few sips of coffee.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:da624482-9829-4706-b981-fa61337abcde@googlegroups.com:

So how do you ever find and keep your hands in the "home"
position?

I think they actually are easier to use for us two finger typists.

I do not need to save five seconds by typing faster. I want to be
certain that what I typed is accurate, so I always look it over
first. I have made typos here though, and another news client used
to change texts on a couple occasions.

I do not need an orthodox typing manner to be productive. So I
started a course back in '73 or such, but got out of it. By the same
token, when I developed database apps, I was able to stand over the
shoulders of my users and instruct of 'show' what they needed to do
with a single hand, left or right, I know where all the keys are and
can type with either hand just fine. I ypically use two or three
fingers from each hand and check accuracy as I go. The time
difference between me and a 130wpm typist is not enough to make a
difference since I am not typing out multi-page documents.

Tabbing through a database field set is also not conducive to home
row orthodox typing practice. Computer users around the world are
happy that they can make use of their tools without formal typist
training. It really only provides useful betterment for someone
planning to write copius amounts of material.

It would have allowed me to type this out twice as fast or more,
but then, I would not have had these extra few sips of coffee.

That all sounds like rationalization. I took typing in high school and have never regretted it. I do tons of typing and touch typing is so much faster and more accurate since I can watch my typing appear for instant corrections, or if I am reentering something on paper I can read as I type without moving my eyes back and forth (very tiring).

I would love voice recognition but voice is hard to follow since we talk much more "loosely" with different grammar and lots of interjections. That's why some people are hard to follow when they write, they are typing what they would say but without the body language and other visual cues. Add to that the extensive use of impersonal pronouns and other common verbal communication habits and written messages can be very hard to follow. A friend texts me without punctuation and I often have no idea what he is actually saying. At least here we typically use punctuation.

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:53:06 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:da624482-9829-4706-b981-fa61337abcde@googlegroups.com:

Of course it was all CGI. Today Max Headroom would not even use
an actor.


You think they just had the actors tapping blindly on glass
tabletops?

Of course.

Hollywood of all folks would be at the top of the "custom LCD
panel" tech. Even if it was just illuminated, non functional button
arrays.
That can be done simply by laminating a thin film btween two glass
layers and lighting it up photonically. No LCD requred.

Why bother? A show I watch adds a few cityscapes once in a while and I realize they are all CGI. It would be nearly nothing to send up a drone, but why bother when it is so easy to CGI scenes these days?

Her stuff was responding to her taps though. Still possible to be
al CGI, however. Not likely though considering the cash Hollywood
has and the fact that custom LCD panel makers have been around a long
time.

Her "stuff"??? Yes, not likely to be a big screen table top. Why mess with all the programming and custom hardware when CGI is trivial for something like that???

Remember "Minority Report"?

A lot of that tech was real, and that was a long time before "Fate
of the Furious".

The tech in Back to the Future was all real too. lol

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[Mike Coon]

In article <da624482-9829-4706-b981-fa61337abcde@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...

I worked with a touch keyboard once. They are horrible. You can't

touch anything without activating the keys. So how do you ever find and
keep your hands in the "home" position?

Nothing to do with touch-typing, then. And no use for sight-impaired who
require touch-typing. Just cater for the hunt-and-peck brigade...

Mike.

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Mike Coon wrote:

In article <qmhjea$civ$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...

I too hate the lack of cursor keys.

On my Android phone and tablet I use the "Hacker's Keyboard", in
portrait, instead of the built-in soft keyboard mostly to get cursor
keys.

I use it too but it doesn't have 'word suggestions' and no option in the
settings for it.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 5:58:45 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. The
Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow movement keys and
the numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's a 17 inch laptop!
They have all the room in the world, more than an inch on every side of
the keyboard.

How many games do you play on your computah? If none, why are you
complaining about a keyboard layout made for gamers? The only keys of
interest to a gamer are the keys used by the various games. Those are
easy to find. They're the broken keys on the gamers keyboard. Arrow
keys are used only by games who can't afford a gaming mouse, joystick,
etc, or don't know that the arrow keys are duplicated on the number
pad and as the ESDX or WASD keys, also known as the "cursor diamond".
The really important keys are the alt keys, ctrl keys, shift keys,
tab, space bar, enter, escape, and backspace. You could remove most
of the other keys off a gamers keyboard, and nobody would notice
(unless they have to type a password).

You seem to be making sense, but not really. You say there are alternatives for the arrow keys, but the arrow keys are still the first choice, no? I would have thought the second choice would be the numeric keypad which gives arrow keys any time the numlock is off. None of that addresses why they would diminish the arrow keys and the number pad anyway. There are still ash trays in many cars even though they are typically not used.

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed with
maintaining a straight border all around the keyboard. The tilde key,
on the other end from the keypad is also a narrow key, most likely
because to make it full size would create a tiny bulge, maybe an eighth
of an inch. No, that's too unsightly. Or they could make all the other
keys on that edge an eighth of an inch wider. No, once again the keys
have to be as symmetric as humanly possible.

Well, you got that one right, but failed to understand why aesthetics
are important. It's the advent of RGB color shifting keyboards that
are driving the aesthetics. A ragged edge on an illuminated RGB
keyboard looks awful. Since RGB illumination on boxes, fans,
plumbing, keyboards, and mice are the driving force in sales to
gamers, and that the Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop is for gamers,
whatever they want, they get, even if it means that you can't type on
the keyboard. Look at the available external keyboards and notice
that most have straight edges and a few narrow keys:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=rgb+keyboard

Again, not closing the loop. If the RGB color shifting keyboards are so special, why does MSI make so many that are only red? I don't see how my current illuminated keyboard is ugly with the uneven edges.

The other part of the puzzle are mechanical versus dome type keyboard
switches. Gamers prefer mechanical keyboards mostly because they are
able to mash the keys in order to gain a few nanoseconds of response
time over other players. Rather than build a new keyboard just for
the laptop, the manufactures just transplanted the guts from an
external keyboard into the gaming laptop. Of course the transplanted
switch layout didn't quite fit in the laptop case, so a few changes
were necessary. Since there wasn't any vertical headroom available
for a real mechanical switches, Acer used slim and thin dome switches
and low profile keycaps.

Don't get what this has to do with tiny keycaps. The issue is not the height, it's the XY size. I recognized they had crammed the two up/down arrow keys into the size of one key initially. Then I found they shrunk the left/right arrow keys the same way and left the rest of the space empty!!!

What ever happened to "form follows function"???

Obsolete and replace by "Form follows Fashion".

Louis Sullivan is turning over in his grave and I'm not buying a $1,200 piece of crap with a malformed keyboard. Sooner or later I'll find something worth while.

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[Mike Coon]

In article <qmj3fs$i8s$1@dont-email.me>, fizzbintuesday@that-google-
mail-domain.com says...

I use it too but it doesn't have 'word suggestions' and no option in
the
settings for it.

But then I see too many examples of what, I am generously assuming, was
wrong suggestions being accepted. I even wrote to a yachting magazine to
point out they used the word "salver", which is typically a silver plate
that might be a racing trophy, whereas they meant "salvor", which is a
salvage company needed after a catastrophe!

Mike.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:58:36 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. The
Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow movement keys and
the numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's a 17 inch laptop!
They have all the room in the world, more than an inch on every side of
the keyboard.

How many games do you play on your computah? If none, why are you
complaining about a keyboard layout made for gamers? The only keys of
interest to a gamer are the keys used by the various games. Those are
easy to find. They're the broken keys on the gamers keyboard. Arrow
keys are used only by games who can't afford a gaming mouse, joystick,
etc, or don't know that the arrow keys are duplicated on the number
pad and as the ESDX or WASD keys, also known as the "cursor diamond".
The really important keys are the alt keys, ctrl keys, shift keys,
tab, space bar, enter, escape, and backspace. You could remove most
of the other keys off a gamers keyboard, and nobody would notice
(unless they have to type a password).

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed with
maintaining a straight border all around the keyboard. The tilde key,
on the other end from the keypad is also a narrow key, most likely
because to make it full size would create a tiny bulge, maybe an eighth
of an inch. No, that's too unsightly. Or they could make all the other
keys on that edge an eighth of an inch wider. No, once again the keys
have to be as symmetric as humanly possible.

Well, you got that one right, but failed to understand why aesthetics
are important. It's the advent of RGB color shifting keyboards that
are driving the aesthetics. A ragged edge on an illuminated RGB
keyboard looks awful. Since RGB illumination on boxes, fans,
plumbing, keyboards, and mice are the driving force in sales to
gamers, and that the Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop is for gamers,
whatever they want, they get, even if it means that you can't type on
the keyboard. Look at the available external keyboards and notice
that most have straight edges and a few narrow keys:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=rgb+keyboard

The other part of the puzzle are mechanical versus dome type keyboard
switches. Gamers prefer mechanical keyboards mostly because they are
able to mash the keys in order to gain a few nanoseconds of response
time over other players. Rather than build a new keyboard just for
the laptop, the manufactures just transplanted the guts from an
external keyboard into the gaming laptop. Of course the transplanted
switch layout didn't quite fit in the laptop case, so a few changes
were necessary. Since there wasn't any vertical headroom available
for a real mechanical switches, Acer used slim and thin dome switches
and low profile keycaps.

What ever happened to "form follows function"???

Obsolete and replace by "Form follows Fashion".

I needed a new kb so ordered one that looked nice, from Amazon. It was
a "gamer" keyboard with varying color LED backlights, weird layout,
and really klunky action. I threw it away.

I do now have some nice backlit keyboards by Logitech.

I do disable Caps Lock. Why does anyone want Caps Lock?

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 09:59:02 +0100, Mike Coon
<gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:

In article <qmhjea$civ$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...

I too hate the lack of cursor keys.

On my Android phone and tablet I use the "Hacker's Keyboard", in
portrait, instead of the built-in soft keyboard mostly to get cursor
keys.

There are some alternatives to the built in Android keyboard:

"Top 5 Android Keyboards with Arrow Keys"
<https://www.guidingtech.com/android-keyboards-arrow-keys/>

"How to Easily Move the Cursor While Typing in Android"
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/move-cursor-typing-android/>

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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Rick C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems the last bastion of real keyboards is throwing in the towel. The
Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop has miniature arrow movement keys and
the numeric keypad has narrow width keys. It's a 17 inch laptop!
They have all the room in the world, more than an inch on every side of
the keyboard.

How many games do you play on your computah? If none, why are you
complaining about a keyboard layout made for gamers? The only keys of
interest to a gamer are the keys used by the various games. Those are
easy to find. They're the broken keys on the gamers keyboard. Arrow
keys are used only by games who can't afford a gaming mouse, joystick,
etc, or don't know that the arrow keys are duplicated on the number
pad and as the ESDX or WASD keys, also known as the "cursor diamond".
The really important keys are the alt keys, ctrl keys, shift keys,
tab, space bar, enter, escape, and backspace. You could remove most
of the other keys off a gamers keyboard, and nobody would notice
(unless they have to type a password).

Partly this seems to be aesthetics. They seem to be obsessed with
maintaining a straight border all around the keyboard. The tilde key,
on the other end from the keypad is also a narrow key, most likely
because to make it full size would create a tiny bulge, maybe an eighth
of an inch. No, that's too unsightly. Or they could make all the other
keys on that edge an eighth of an inch wider. No, once again the keys
have to be as symmetric as humanly possible.

Well, you got that one right, but failed to understand why aesthetics
are important. It's the advent of RGB color shifting keyboards that
are driving the aesthetics. A ragged edge on an illuminated RGB
keyboard looks awful. Since RGB illumination on boxes, fans,
plumbing, keyboards, and mice are the driving force in sales to
gamers, and that the Acer Aspire 7 17.3" Gaming Laptop is for gamers,
whatever they want, they get, even if it means that you can't type on
the keyboard. Look at the available external keyboards and notice
that most have straight edges and a few narrow keys:
<https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=rgb+keyboard>

The other part of the puzzle are mechanical versus dome type keyboard
switches. Gamers prefer mechanical keyboards mostly because they are
able to mash the keys in order to gain a few nanoseconds of response
time over other players. Rather than build a new keyboard just for
the laptop, the manufactures just transplanted the guts from an
external keyboard into the gaming laptop. Of course the transplanted
switch layout didn't quite fit in the laptop case, so a few changes
were necessary. Since there wasn't any vertical headroom available
for a real mechanical switches, Acer used slim and thin dome switches
and low profile keycaps.

>What ever happened to "form follows function"???

Obsolete and replace by "Form follows Fashion".

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Steve Wilson]

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 6:13:17 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

I needed a new kb so ordered one that looked nice, from Amazon. It was
a "gamer" keyboard with varying color LED backlights, weird layout,
and really klunky action. I threw it away.

I do now have some nice backlit keyboards by Logitech.

I do disable Caps Lock. Why does anyone want Caps Lock?

If you have ever lost a keyboard due to spilled coke or coffee, try a Kensington. Waterproof so liquids cannot get in and ruin the keyboard. Washable so you can clean dirt and grime off the keys. I don't know how the keys work, but they are quite easy to type on. Here's more info:

Kensington K64406US Washable USB Keyboard with Antimicrobial Protection

Item #: IM1BA6329
Model #: K64406US
White : $31.49
Black : $24.99

White keyboard with 104-key layout, is perfect for use in many
different environments such as hospitals, government offices,
schools and more.

Dimensions: 1.38"H x 18"W x 7.32"D

https://tinyurl.com/yca56gjf

Good idea to have one on hand in case disaster strikes.