Adjusting an atomizer circuit...

[Commander Kinsey]

I\'ve bought an atomizer circuit and \"speaker\", which appears to want a water depth of 1cm. However the tank/valve I have produces 2cm depth. Is there a way to change the electronics to make it vibrate water into vapour at a greater depth?

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:33:22 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka \"Commander Kinsey\",
\"James Wilkinson\", \"Steven Wanker\",\"Bruce Farquar\", \"Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

<FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore\'s latest
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[amdx]

On 4/11/2022 3:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I\'ve bought an atomizer circuit and \"speaker\", which appears to want a
water depth of 1cm.  However the tank/valve I have produces 2cm
depth.  Is there a way to change the electronics to make it vibrate
water into vapour at a greater depth?

 As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

 At one time I had a job where we built Ultrasonic energy amplifiers
and transducers.
We sat our transducer in 6\" of water and could blow a plume 6\" to 10\"
above the surface of the water.
 But it was 1000 watts and a 2\" transducer.

                                     Mikek


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[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:00:48 +0100, amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 4/11/2022 3:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I\'ve bought an atomizer circuit and \"speaker\", which appears to want a
water depth of 1cm. However the tank/valve I have produces 2cm
depth. Is there a way to change the electronics to make it vibrate
water into vapour at a greater depth?

As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

At one time I had a job where we built Ultrasonic energy amplifiers
and transducers.
We sat our transducer in 6\" of water and could blow a plume 6\" to 10\"
above the surface of the water.
But it was 1000 watts and a 2\" transducer.

This is 25W, a 1 inch transducer. The same as the thing I replaced. But it refuses to atomize through that depth of water. The old one did (although it did burn out after 9 months). How do you suggest I increase the power? And should I be looking at a higher power or a higher frequency?

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:00:48 -0500, amdx, yet another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


>  As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

As anyone with a brain would say, DON\'T FEED THE TROLL, troll-feeding senile
twit!

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:00:48 +0100, amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 4/11/2022 3:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I\'ve bought an atomizer circuit and \"speaker\", which appears to want a
water depth of 1cm.  However the tank/valve I have produces 2cm
depth.  Is there a way to change the electronics to make it vibrate
water into vapour at a greater depth?

  As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

  At one time I had a job where we built Ultrasonic energy amplifiers
and transducers.
We sat our transducer in 6\" of water and could blow a plume 6\" to 10\"
above the surface of the water.
  But it was 1000 watts and a 2\" transducer.

This is 25W, a 1 inch transducer.  The same as the thing I replaced.
But it refuses to atomize through that depth of water.  The old one did
(although it did burn out after 9 months).  How do you suggest I
increase the power?  And should I be looking at a higher power or a
higher frequency?

Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Peeler wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:00:48 -0500, amdx, yet another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


 As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

As anyone with a brain would say, DON\'T FEED THE TROLL, troll-feeding senile
twit!

As if anybody can tell you lot apart without a program.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:41:06 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:00:48 +0100, amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 4/11/2022 3:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I\'ve bought an atomizer circuit and \"speaker\", which appears to want a
water depth of 1cm. However the tank/valve I have produces 2cm
depth. Is there a way to change the electronics to make it vibrate
water into vapour at a greater depth?

As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

At one time I had a job where we built Ultrasonic energy amplifiers
and transducers.
We sat our transducer in 6\" of water and could blow a plume 6\" to 10\"
above the surface of the water.
But it was 1000 watts and a 2\" transducer.

This is 25W, a 1 inch transducer. The same as the thing I replaced.
But it refuses to atomize through that depth of water. The old one did
(although it did burn out after 9 months). How do you suggest I
increase the power? And should I be looking at a higher power or a
higher frequency?

Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?

I have no idea how that would work. There\'s nothing special about it that I can see, just a 1 inch metal transducer. Similar circuit powering it as the original humidifier. It\'s this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174783229310

 

[server]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:42:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Peeler wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:00:48 -0500, amdx, yet another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


 As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power!

As anyone with a brain would say, DON\'T FEED THE TROLL, troll-feeding senile
twit!


As if anybody can tell you lot apart without a program.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Whenever one asks a technical question, we should encourage that
behavior.

Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.





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[Jon]

+ACI-Commander Kinsey+ACI- +ADw-CK1+AEA-nospam.com+AD4- wrote in message
newsp.1kgrpx1vmvhs6z+AEA-ryzen.lan...
+AD4- On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 14:41:06 +010-, Phil Hobbs
+AD4- +ADw-pcdhSpamMeSenseless+AEA-electrooptical.net+AD4- wrote:
+AD4-
+AD4APg- Commander Kinsey wrote:
+AD4APgA+- On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:00:48 +010-, amdx +ADw-amdx+AEA-knology.net+AD4- wrote:
+AD4APgA+-
+AD4APgA+AD4- On 4/11/2022 3:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
+AD4APgA+AD4APg- I\'ve bought an atomizer circuit and +ACI-speaker+ACI-, which appears to want a
+AD4APgA+AD4APg- water depth of 1cm. However the tank/valve I have produces 2cm
+AD4APgA+AD4APg- depth. Is there a way to change the electronics to make it vibrate
+AD4APgA+AD4APg- water into vapour at a greater depth?
+AD4APgA+AD4-
+AD4APgA+AD4- As Tim \'the toolman\' Taylor would say, more power+ACE-
+AD4APgA+AD4-
+AD4APgA+AD4- At one time I had a job where we built Ultrasonic energy amplifiers
+AD4APgA+AD4- and transducers.
+AD4APgA+AD4- We sat our transducer in 6+ACI- of water and could blow a plume 6+ACI- to 10+ACI-
+AD4APgA+AD4- above the surface of the water.
+AD4APgA+AD4- But it was 1000 watts and a 2+ACI- transducer.
+AD4APgA+-
+AD4APgA+- This is 25W, a 1 inch transducer. The same as the thing I replaced.
+AD4APgA+- But it refuses to atomize through that depth of water. The old one did
+AD4APgA+- (although it did burn out after 9 months). How do you suggest I
+AD4APgA+- increase the power? And should I be looking at a higher power or a
+AD4APgA+- higher frequency?
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?
+AD4-

May be wrong frequency, I see they have 2.4MHz and 105Khz drivers.

+AD4- I have no idea how that would work. There\'s nothing special about it that
+AD4- I can see, just a 1 inch metal transducer. Similar circuit powering it as
+AD4- the original humidifier. It\'s this:
+AD4- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174783229310

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:47:19 +0100, Arie de Muijnck <eternal.september@ademu.com> wrote:

On 2022-04-11 16:31, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.

Yes, they do, extensively.

I had the environment covered in a fine dust within weeks.

Even stranger, in the kitchen at the other end of the apartment, gas
flames became orange/red, see for a test:
https://ademu.home.xs4all.nl/Humidifier/Ultrasonic-humidifier-effect-on-gas-flame.mp4

So, after I edited that shit to remove the pointless <>, I find some idiot putting damp air into a gas flame, what was your point?

> I find distilled water at EUR 0.5 / liter too expensive for using up to 5 liters per day...

I find no such problems. All it does is make the air more humid. Why the fuck would that cause deposits?

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:41:06 -0400, Phil Hobbs, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?

I\'m sure that he is about to troll the shit out of your ng and that YOU are
a typical troll-feeding senile asshole!

> Cheers

LOL! Like I said: troll-feeding senile asshole!

 

[server]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:53:04 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:47:19 +0100, Arie de Muijnck <eternal.september@ademu.com> wrote:

On 2022-04-11 16:31, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.

Yes, they do, extensively.

I had the environment covered in a fine dust within weeks.

Even stranger, in the kitchen at the other end of the apartment, gas
flames became orange/red, see for a test:
https://ademu.home.xs4all.nl/Humidifier/Ultrasonic-humidifier-effect-on-gas-flame.mp4

So, after I edited that shit to remove the pointless <>, I find some idiot putting damp air into a gas flame, what was your point?

My mistake for assuming that you could be nudged into civilized
behavior.

There is a pattern here: nasty people are rarely, maybe never, any
good at electronics.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:42:48 -0400, Phil Hobbs, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:

As anyone with a brain would say, DON\'T FEED THE TROLL, troll-feeding senile
twit!


As if anybody can tell you lot apart without a program.

You ARE that demented and senile, aren\'t you, troll-feeding senile asshole?

> Cheers

LOL! Like I said: senile asshole!

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:31:33 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

Whenever one asks a technical question, we should encourage that

NOT in the case of a well-known, PROVEN clinically insane trolling attention
whore like \"PHucker\"! <BG> If you need proof, I can post it here. ;-)

 

[server]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 17:14:47 +0200, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:41:06 -0400, Phil Hobbs, another mentally challenged,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?

I\'m sure that he is about to troll the shit out of your ng and that YOU are
a typical troll-feeding senile asshole!

Cheers

LOL! Like I said: troll-feeding senile asshole!

Design some electronics. Show us.

Or write a book.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

mandag den 11. april 2022 kl. 16.53.13 UTC+2 skrev Commander Kinsey:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:47:19 +0100, Arie de Muijnck <eternal....@ademu.com> wrote:

On 2022-04-11 16:31, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.

Yes, they do, extensively.

I had the environment covered in a fine dust within weeks.

Even stranger, in the kitchen at the other end of the apartment, gas
flames became orange/red, see for a test:
https://ademu.home.xs4all.nl/Humidifier/Ultrasonic-humidifier-effect-on-gas-flame.mp4
So, after I edited that shit to remove the pointless <>, I find some idiot putting damp air into a gas flame, what was your point?
I find distilled water at EUR 0.5 / liter too expensive for using up to 5 liters per day...
I find no such problems. All it does is make the air more humid. Why the fuck would that cause deposits?

because it doesn\'t turn the water into vapor, it turns the water, and what ever minerals in it, into tiny droplets and spread them in the air

 

[server]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 08:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

mandag den 11. april 2022 kl. 16.53.13 UTC+2 skrev Commander Kinsey:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:47:19 +0100, Arie de Muijnck <eternal....@ademu.com> wrote:

On 2022-04-11 16:31, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.

Yes, they do, extensively.

I had the environment covered in a fine dust within weeks.

Even stranger, in the kitchen at the other end of the apartment, gas
flames became orange/red, see for a test:
https://ademu.home.xs4all.nl/Humidifier/Ultrasonic-humidifier-effect-on-gas-flame.mp4
So, after I edited that shit to remove the pointless <>, I find some idiot putting damp air into a gas flame, what was your point?
I find distilled water at EUR 0.5 / liter too expensive for using up to 5 liters per day...
I find no such problems. All it does is make the air more humid. Why the fuck would that cause deposits?

because it doesn\'t turn the water into vapor, it turns the water, and what ever minerals in it, into tiny droplets and spread them in the air

Right. Evaporation keeps the solids behind. Spraying doesn\'t.

Our water is naturally acidic, which would eat pipes, so it\'s passed
over limestone chips or something. That coats pipes and protects them.
It will make the deposits.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[server]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 17:23:01 +0200, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:31:33 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:


Whenever one asks a technical question, we should encourage that

NOT in the case of a well-known, PROVEN clinically insane trolling attention
whore like \"PHucker\"! <BG> If you need proof, I can post it here. ;-)

I prefer that you post something intelligent on topic.

What do you do in real life?



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Fredxx]

On 11/04/2022 16:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:17:15 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:53:04 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:47:19 +0100, Arie de Muijnck
eternal.september@ademu.com> wrote:

On 2022-04-11 16:31, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.

Yes, they do, extensively.

I had the environment covered in a fine dust within weeks.

Even stranger, in the kitchen at the other end of the apartment, gas
flames became orange/red, see for a test:
https://ademu.home.xs4all.nl/Humidifier/Ultrasonic-humidifier-effect-on-gas-flame.mp4


So, after I edited that shit to remove the pointless <>, I find some
idiot putting damp air into a gas flame, what was your point?

My mistake for assuming that you could be nudged into civilized behavior.

So, you wanted to nudge me into not using what I was asking about how to
make work.  Not very helpful are you?

And it\'s spelled behaviour, with a U.  American isn\'t a language.

There is a pattern here: nasty people are rarely, maybe never, any
good at electronics.

And you\'re the one that edited my subject to some bollocks or other.
I\'m guessing you\'re a troll and I should engage my killfile?

Remind us, who was the idiot who posted to non-uk newsgroups?

The only troll here is one who\'s too lazy to work and seeks attention.