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<robin.pain@tesco.net> wrote in message
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"Baphomet" <fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote in message
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:43:19 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


No John...I guess some people would rather do it than just endlessly
talk
about it ;-)

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And then there's you...

and then this is for you
http://www.globecorp.org/sci.electronics.basics/

You swine, I was happily enjoying these posts until I clicked on the
above link, tried to get back here but it shut down my browser!

Hmmm. It was probably the RealMedia music file that did it. It's about 1.5
mb. Sorry :-(


How dare you moderate my browser.

Also I am *not* Johnny Fields.

"I'll have a frisk with ye!"

Robin (the lurker) Pain
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:31:24 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:


Effectively an admission of guilt.
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Grasping at straws, Troll?

--
John Fields
 
"Paul Burridge" <pb@osiris.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:37:23 GMT, "A Grass"
jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:


Funny you never mentioned that before, when I asked you what you did. We
never did get an answer to that question, come to think of it, just some
wafle about "I take care of business."

All e-mail has to go through you; how very busy you must be. I'm
surprised
that you find time to tinker with 555s.

Not a bad bluff, Jonny, but it won't work.

So you're going to carry out your threat to *grass* this fellow up to
his employers, then? Try to get his livelihood trashed because he
doesn't share your views? What make you believe his boss would share
your twisted prejudices?
I can't believe anyone who claimed to have served in the army would
stoop so low. Which army? Which regiment? And you're a CEO now? Which
company? Are you posting from Britain? I see you have a GMT timestamp.
We don't have CEOs in Britain. Who's the real bluffer?
Grasses! Lowest PoS on the planet.
So you think it's ok to steal and lie, as long as you do it from your
employer? And turning in a bullying, lying dishonest rat isn't condoned in
your little book. As long as people like you have the idea that it's worse
to act against criminals than to act criminally, then people like fields
will get away with their behaviour.

In the army we would have taken fields outside and taught him manners.

Since you seem to have such a firm opinion of "grasses", ("Whispering
Grass", for those of you who aren't up on East End criminal vernacular) one
can only assume that you have a criminal background.

Grow up, sonny, the real world has consequences for anti-social behaviour.
Put yourself in his bosses shoes, how would you like someone to be using
company property and company time to do what fields has been doing for
years. Not only that, but every time he posts an abusive message, it
reflects on the company, whose name appears at the top of every post.

John
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:47:05 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

Steve, you may be an expert in electronics, but you obviously have no clue
about product development. Have you never heard of patents. At this point
in time, the product needs all the publicity it can get, even in such a
medium as this.
---
If that's why you're here, then in addition to all the other slimy
things we're finding out about you you're a goddam SPAMmer as well!

I wonder what's coming next??? Blatant ads? Maybe a pyramid scheme for
needed funding?
---

Keep checking the technical press, the publicity will be going out very
shortly.
---
About vaporware?
---

And please don't call me stupid, Steve. You don't know me, have no idea of
my IQ and probably wouldn't understand the work I'm doing anyway.
---
Boy, are you in for a fucking surprise!!!
---

Actually, I was expecting a reply such as yours from Jonny boy, but I guess
once you've hung around him long enough, the attitude is contagious.
---
Already replied to...

--
John Fields
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:37:23 GMT, "John Fortier"
jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:


Funny you never mentioned that before, when I asked you what you did. We
never did get an answer to that question, come to think of it, just some
wafle about "I take care of business."
---
Waffle, dumbass.
---

All e-mail has to go through you; how very busy you must be.
that you find time to tinker with 555s.

---
Actually, it doesn't go through me, per se; I've built a filter which
detects stupidity and sorts incoming into three bins depending on the
level of stupidity detected. Bin1 is low, Bin2 is medium, and Bin 3 is
high. So far all of your stuff has fallen into bin 3, so even the
search through the bins for your trash is trivial. The interesting
thing is that the filter is implemented in hardware. All 555's.

Not a bad bluff, Jonny, but it won't work.

---
Bluff? Seems like you've been backed up to one more than a couple of
times and had to jump to save your sorry ass.

--
John Fields
Gosh, I guess you outsmarted me, Jonny.
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:28:28 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

John Fortier wrote:


Now I shall have no reluctance at all in letting your employers know about
your behaviour.


What? With all the dodging and weaving he does, it may mean a promotion
into a higher position where those skills can be put to good use. But it
is typical of a thoroughly insignificant, unimportant, impotent,
unresourceful little fruit like you to appeal to a perceived higher
authority to take care of problems you can't deal with. Rochester eh?
---
Here's one for the books; the asshole actually called on the phone and
assumed he was going to somehow get through to my boss!

Fortunately, our caller ID intercepted his call and diverted it to voice
mail, averting what could have been a sticky situation.

Our firewall also picked up four interesting hits yesterday, tagged
"John", which are in the process of being investigated. We'll see...

--
John Fields
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:18 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:


So you think it's ok to steal and lie, as long as you do it from your
employer? And turning in a bullying, lying dishonest rat isn't condoned in
your little book. As long as people like you have the idea that it's worse
to act against criminals than to act criminally, then people like fields
will get away with their behaviour.

In the army we would have taken fields outside and taught him manners.
---
I don't know which army you're referring to but, being civilized, here
in the US we have a military bound by what is called the Uniform Code of
Military Justice which specifically prohibits one taking matters into
one's own hands and engaging in the sort of vigilante behavior you
espouse. Our civil statutes also prohibit that kind of behavior.

However, I suspect all that means little to you since you're so full of
yourself that you believe you are the be-all and end-all arbiter of
behavior and exempt from the social constraints you would impose on
others.
---

Since you seem to have such a firm opinion of "grasses", ("Whispering
Grass", for those of you who aren't up on East End criminal vernacular) one
can only assume that you have a criminal background.
---
From all the evidence you've presented so far, your familiarity with the
term clearly springs from the same source.
---

Grow up, sonny, the real world has consequences for anti-social behaviour.
Put yourself in his bosses shoes, how would you like someone to be using
company property and company time to do what fields has been doing for
years. Not only that, but every time he posts an abusive message, it
reflects on the company, whose name appears at the top of every post.
---
Anybody reading my posts can see that I'm only abusive to assholes,
(yeah, _you_, asshole), which reflects well on the company's image.

Anyway, we've got plenty of work and I kind of lay low most of the time
around here and just keep on cashing my paychecks every week, so no
one's the wiser. Pretty slick, huh?

--
John Fields
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:04:10 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:


Gosh, I guess you outsmarted me, Jonny.
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Just now noticing?^)

--
John Fields
 
jfortier posted, in part:
In the army we would have taken fields outside and taught him manners.
I bet you received the scrub brush treatment a few times. Nobody likes a
sniveling little sneak.

I know a bit about having DSL technologies accepted by the Telecom industry. I
wonder if you do. With any luck, you missed a critical step. Consider that a
stroke with my scrub brush.

Don
 
John Fields posted, in part:
I don't know which army you're referring to but, being civilized, here
in the US we have a military bound by what is called the Uniform Code of
Military Justice which specifically prohibits one taking matters into
one's own hands and engaging in the sort of vigilante behavior you
espouse. Our civil statutes also prohibit that kind of behavior.
John, it appears you missed a couple military lessons. There are rules, and
then there are methods that are employed now and then that aren't in the
official book.

Don
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:23 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:28:28 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

snip...snip...snip...

---
Fortunately, our caller ID intercepted his call and diverted it to voice
mail, averting what could have been a sticky situation.

How does a caller ID intercept a call? Wouldn't you have had to program in a
suspect phone number or area code before the fact? If the latter, wouldn't
you be risking losing a lot of potential business?

Our firewall also picked up four interesting hits yesterday, tagged
"John", which are in the process of being investigated. We'll see...

When I used to get port scan attacks, my software firewall would warn me of
such and give an I.P. address (forged using high profile domains). Never did
I see an attack trace with a name tag. That doesn't necessarily mean it
doesn't (or can't) happen I suppose.

Just curious.
---
;-)

--
John Fields
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:47:05 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

Steve, you may be an expert in electronics, but you obviously have no clue
about product development. Have you never heard of patents. At this point
in time, the product needs all the publicity it can get, even in such a
medium as this.
Ah, a startup CEO spending precious time prowling newsgroups making
enemies.

An excellent business strategy.

John
 
On 23 Oct 2003 16:31:52 GMT, dbowey@aol.com (Dbowey) wrote:


John, it appears you missed a couple military lessons. There are rules, and
then there are methods that are employed now and then that aren't in the
official book.
---
I know. I was just pointing out to Fortier the dichotomy which exists
between his having been an officer and a gentleman sworn to uphold the
rules and his condoning breaking them.

--
John Fields
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:28:28 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
snip...snip...snip...

---
Fortunately, our caller ID intercepted his call and diverted it to voice
mail, averting what could have been a sticky situation.
How does a caller ID intercept a call? Wouldn't you have had to program in a
suspect phone number or area code before the fact? If the latter, wouldn't
you be risking losing a lot of potential business?

Our firewall also picked up four interesting hits yesterday, tagged
"John", which are in the process of being investigated. We'll see...
When I used to get port scan attacks, my software firewall would warn me of
such and give an I.P. address (forged using high profile domains). Never did
I see an attack trace with a name tag. That doesn't necessarily mean it
doesn't (or can't) happen I suppose.

Just curious.

--
John Fields
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:00:18 GMT, "A Grass"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

So you think it's ok to steal and lie, as long as you do it from your
employer?
I never said any such thing, Grass. Show me where you claim I did.

And turning in a bullying, lying dishonest rat isn't condoned in
your little book.
That's right. I wouldn't turn you in because I, unlike you, don't
believe in telling tales out of school. That kind of behaviour's for
very young kids who haven't yet had this unfortunate character trait
*kicked* out of them at great length in the school playground.
And you reckon you emerged from 12 years in the army with this outlook
of yours still intact? I don't believe you. I repeat: which army and
which regiment?

As long as people like you have the idea that it's worse
to act against criminals than to act criminally, then people like fields
will get away with their behaviour.
It's *your* behaviour that stinks, Grass, not his.

In the army we would have taken fields outside and taught him manners.
Again: which army, which regiment?

Since you seem to have such a firm opinion of "grasses", ("Whispering
Grass", for those of you who aren't up on East End criminal vernacular) one
can only assume that you have a criminal background.

Grow up, sonny, the real world has consequences for anti-social behaviour.
Put yourself in his bosses shoes, how would you like someone to be using
company property and company time to do what fields has been doing for
years. Not only that, but every time he posts an abusive message, it
reflects on the company, whose name appears at the top of every post.
Bullshit. Everyone knows that "the opinions of this poster are not
necessarily those of this company." It's such common knowledge that
this disclaimer's hardly ever seen on postings any more.
And there again, that presupposes he's said anything offensive at all.
I certainly wouldn't take *your* word for that, Grass.
--

"Windows [n.], A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch
to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit
microprocessor and produced by a two bit company."
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:47:05 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> Gave us:

And please don't call me stupid, Steve. You don't know me, have no idea of
my IQ and probably wouldn't understand the work I'm doing anyway.

Perhaps he was going by your recent flurry of retarded troll posts.
They say a lot about your characterlessness.
 
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:51:23 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> Gave us:

How does a caller ID intercept a call?
You ain't real bright, are ya, boy?


Wouldn't you have had to program in a
suspect phone number or area code before the fact? If the latter, wouldn't
you be risking losing a lot of potential business?
Yep, yer an idiot.
 
"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Bent over the bar spread eagle in usual positon, pants at his ankles and jar
of vaseline at the ready, Don't Matter spread his cheeks wide and said:

snip...snip...snip...

"Perhaps he was going by your recent flurry of retarded troll posts.
They say a lot about your characterlessness."
 
"Roy McCammon" <rbmccammon@mmm.com> wrote in message
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Bill Sloman wrote:

Nowhere near as much as Dubbya's crew in the White House, who are
widely seen seen as a rabid pack of Texas oil-men. The consequent
defamation of Texas is unavoidable - they've dumped a problem governor
into a place where he can do even more damage - and while his antics
don't seem to be offensive to the mindless Texans of the John Fields
class, I imagine that a certain disquiet is circulating amongst those
few Texans with a few neurones to rub together - not that their
neighbours would tolerate any overt expression of this disquiet.

You don't think we have a monoculture down here do you?
No. My wife did her Ph.D. in Austin, Texas, and was able to spend time with
people who drank wine and talked sense about subjects other than grid-iron
football. It wasn't easy, and she stepped out of her Ph.D. viva into her car
and drove
straight to MIT, thus spending no more time in Texas than she absolutely had
to.

But - despite the best efforts of the rednecks - even Texas hasn't got a
monoculture.

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On 21 Oct 2003 03:19:06 -0700, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman) wrote:

Now that the Supreme Court has struck down the Texan anti-sodomy laws
(at least as far as they apply to behaviour in private) can we expect
you to devote less time to appearing aggressively hetro?

---
"hetro"? No, but "openly hetero" would be more accurate.
---
Anything you say, John ...

And devote correspondingly less time to claiming that your critics are
"limp-wristed" and in other ways effeminate?

---
No, and I suspect that with the change in the law you'll soon be here
begging for citizenship.
Not likely. My wife did her Ph.D. at Austin, Texas. The Ph.D. was very
successful, but she didn't think much of Texas as a place to live, and was
out of the state as soon as her Ph.D. examination was completed. She did go
back there once, about twenty years later, and didn't notice much in the way
of improvement - I don't think that she'd be too receptive to offers of
post-retirement professorships in Texas.

------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 

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