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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <K9ednW76oay37dLUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Bit like 'buck', then, to the rest of the world. ;-)

Quid is slang for 1 gbp.

The way things are going 1 gbp = 1$ = 1 Euro. At least it will make
foreign holiday calculations easy. Except no one can afford them.

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[Stuart]

In article <a6WdnWJH0dGW6NLUnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

I spent less than $50 on Christmas this year. Being disabled, I don't
put up a tree or lights since I have trouble with ladders.

I'm afraid we now use one of the fibre-optic "trees". It's around 18" tall
and sits on small table near the front window. A rotating filter above the
light in the base gives changing colours. We think it's quite attractive
and it's minimum fuss and effort.

We never had "real" trees anyway, my wife used to hate the job of
hoovering up the dropped needles every day.

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[Stuart]

In article <K9ednW76oay37dLUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

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[William Sommerwerck]

Are those times for cells that have been stored in unused condition,
or for cells that are in a device which is in occasional use?

Unused, of course. Using the cell, even "occasionally", drains it.

I believe that the former (shelf life when fully charged) is often a
good deal better than the latter (lifetime once partially discharged).
I've read that even a modest partial discharge of an alkaline cell
starts an electrochemical reaction that can lead to corrosion of the
case after a year or so.

I've never seen this. Sounds like another myth started by someone who
doesn't understand.

The electrochemical reactions in batteries continue at all time, whether
they are "new" or used.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Stuart wrote:

In article <a6WdnWJH0dGW6NLUnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
I spent less than $50 on Christmas this year. Being disabled, I don't
put up a tree or lights since I have trouble with ladders.

I'm afraid we now use one of the fibre-optic "trees". It's around 18" tall
and sits on small table near the front window. A rotating filter above the
light in the base gives changing colours. We think it's quite attractive
and it's minimum fuss and effort.

We never had "real" trees anyway, my wife used to hate the job of
hoovering up the dropped needles every day.

I haven't put up a tree since I left for the US Army at 20.


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[Michael A. Terrell]

"Ron(UK)" wrote:

In an industry where possibly 40 or 50, radio packs may be used nightly
on a single live show, do you really think they would use the more
expensive solution of using replacable batteries without good reason if
they could get away with using rechargables and saving money?
One microphone failure on a West End or Broadway show could cost a lot
of money and someone his or her job.

It could get the company blacklisted in the industry as well. I've
seen contracts that specified the exact equipment to be used. If yo
can't supply it, you can't have the contract. ANY deviation is breech
of contract.


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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:33:27 +0000 (GMT), the renowned Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <K9ednW76oay37dLUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

For example, if I would like to know the price of gasoline (petrol) in
China using the obsolete units of my youth, I need only type:

5.1 CNY per liter in CAD per imperial gallon

and it responds with

5.1 (Chinese yuan per liter) = 4.08944735 Canadian dollars per
Imperial gallon

Or combined reciprocal and units conversion:

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per imperial gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 44.8382624 miles per Imperial gallon

or

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 37.3356481 miles per gallon

(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).


Here is the list of ISO codes (Google does not have them all
available, but the major ones should be there).

http://www.xe.com/iso4217.php


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[Lostgallifreyan]

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in
news:dc6vk4pnbo8vjnhtdtsoj51ip2j4dukqna@4ax.com:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:33:27 +0000 (GMT), the renowned Stuart
Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <K9ednW76oay37dLUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me.

Quid = Pounds, at the current exchange rate = $1.47

If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

For example, if I would like to know the price of gasoline (petrol) in
China using the obsolete units of my youth, I need only type:

5.1 CNY per liter in CAD per imperial gallon

and it responds with

5.1 (Chinese yuan per liter) = 4.08944735 Canadian dollars per
Imperial gallon

Or combined reciprocal and units conversion:

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per imperial gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 44.8382624 miles per Imperial gallon

or

6.3 liters per 100km in miles per gallon

responds with

6.3 liters per 100km = 37.3356481 miles per gallon

(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).


Here is the list of ISO codes (Google does not have them all
available, but the major ones should be there).

http://www.xe.com/iso4217.php


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

That's neat. Thanks. I didn't know it was that sophisticated. if it's
tolerant of errors, especially cool. Makes up for many of the annoyances of
Google.

 

[Stuart]

In article <dc6vk4pnbo8vjnhtdtsoj51ip2j4dukqna@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google

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[Tzortzakakis Dimitrios]

? "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> ?????? ??? ??????
news:K9ednW76oay37dLUnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@earthlink.com...

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Are you storing them in an oven? I have used Alkaline cells that
were over six years old.

I think it has more to do with who makes the batteries and where
than how they are stored. We get lots of things from Hong Kong,
Singapore and mainland China.

If you think the people who put melanine in powdered milk, or used lead
paint on toys are the only ones who produce cheap junk and label it
has high priced well known brands, you are mistaken.

Here, were most UK and US brands are not officially sold, and grey market
goods are perfectly legal, you never know what you are buying, even if
you
buy it in a well known store.

I expect that it's now the same way elsewhere, except that the name
brands usually are really what you think you are getting.

For example, last Christmas one of the major UK retailers sold a DVD
player
for 10 quid. In the box was a remote and I assume batteries. How much did
those batteries cost, and how many of them surfaced with "brand names" on
them?


I'm in the US, so quid is meaningless to me. Most remotes here seem
to be shipped with crappy carbon zinc, or no name alkaline cells. Some
are so bad they leak before the item is sold.

The VCR which I got in Kozani (eastern Macedonia, greece's province, not the

country), a Sony, in 1995, had its remote supplied with 2 carbon zinc Sony
AA cells. Well, they lasted until a couple of years ago, the VCR got another
problem and I decided to throw it away to get a sony dvd player (50
euros).
A merry Christmas to everyone!

Right now you can buy a DVD player for US $14 after a $5 rebate. I
saw plenty of them in the 19 to 29 dollar range through the year.

I buy only name brand US made cells when I can. I keep a good
supply on hand for power outages, flashlights & hurricane season. I use
my oldest stock between seasons, and some got quite old. They were well
past the use by dates, but all were still good.

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[VWWall]

Stuart wrote:

In article <dc6vk4pnbo8vjnhtdtsoj51ip2j4dukqna@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google

Worse than that, when the US changed liquor bottles to metric, they made

a half-gallon into 1.75 liters! Looks the same size, but lost a bit of
booze!

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Virg Wall

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:21:10 -0800, Dave Platt wrote:

In article <2ImdnXxuXp6okNLUnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

So do I. They rarely last more than a year before they leak, and some
brands even less. Before they changed from some anonymous Chinese
manufacturer to GPT, the Office Depot brand sold here lasted 3-4
months.

Are you storing them in an oven? I have used Alkaline cells that
were over six years old.

Are those times for cells that have been stored in unused condition, or
for cells that are in a device which is in occasional use?

I believe that the former (shelf life when fully charged) is often a good
deal better than the latter (lifetime once partially discharged). I've
read that even a modest partial discharge of an alkaline cell starts an
electrochemical reaction that can lead to corrosion of the case after a
year or so.

I have a Fujicam that takes AAs - I used to use NiMHs, but they turned
out to be crap, so I got a couple of alkalines, which have lasted now for
at least a year in intermittent duty - the camera is a real current hog,
even when it's off, so I just store the cam with the battery door open.
This means I have to set its clock every time I use it, but I consider
that a small price to pay for the kind of reliability I'm getting.

YMMV, of course.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:16:23 -0800, VWWall wrote:

Stuart wrote:
In article <dc6vk4pnbo8vjnhtdtsoj51ip2j4dukqna@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google

Worse than that, when the US changed liquor bottles to metric, they made a
half-gallon into 1.75 liters! Looks the same size, but lost a bit of
booze!

Yes. A liter is more than a quart, so isn't a popular size, since one
is more expensive than a quart. But then they've got a 375 mL bottle,
which is just under a fifth (at the price of a fifth) and 175 mL, just
under a pint, at the price of a pint. So I just buy the 1.75L "half
gallons". Usually, one of the grocery stores will have some store brand
"on special" for about $8.99 + tax. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:16:23 -0800, VWWall <vwall@large.invalid>
wrote:

Stuart wrote:
In article <dc6vk4pnbo8vjnhtdtsoj51ip2j4dukqna@4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
(careful, the default "gallon" is some kind of undersized quaint wine
gallon for unknown reasons).

Cos it's the US gallon and the yanks own google

Worse than that, when the US changed liquor bottles to metric, they made
a half-gallon into 1.75 liters! Looks the same size, but lost a bit of
booze!

Google: 1.75 liters in half gallons

1.75 liters = 0.924602183 half US gallons

Google: (1 - 0.924602183 ) half gallons in fluid ounces

(1 - 0.924602183) * (half US gallons) = 4.82546029 US fluid ounces

This one is fun:

Google: 12 U in mm

 

[ItsASecretDummy]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:49:23 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

If you remember the 3-letter ISO currency codes, Google will do a lot
of the slogwork for you, and more.

If you have Vista and the sidebar applet for currency, you can always
see it, and you can always type a figure in and get the exchange value.

Not using what is available is part of what creates slog work, and is
itself slog work, ready made.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:28:24 -0000, Ron(UK) <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote:

jakdedert wrote:
Ron(UK) wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:

LESS THAN A YEAR?!?!?! I have Duracells with a use by date of about 4
or 5 years in the future.


So do I. They rarely last more than a year before they leak, and some
brands even less. Before they changed from some anonymous Chinese
manufacturer to GPT, the Office Depot brand sold here lasted 3-4 months.


An awful lot of the 'Duracells' you'll find in discount places,
markets, etc. are chinese fakes. A genuine Procell PP3 has six
cylindrical cells which look like a small AAA cell. The ripoffs I`ve
seen have flat cells. You can barely tell the difference from external
appearances alone - the price should be your guide.

Ron(UK)

They are actually AAAA cells.....

Same in an Energizer, the difference is that the cells in a Procell
are connected by spotwelded on flat metal strips
In an Energizer, pressure alone connects the cells to the top terminals
and bottom conductors. That might explain why they sometimes
inexplicably fail after a few minutes.

I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

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[Ron Johnson]

Peter Hucker wrote:

I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Ron(UK)

 

[Geoffrey S. Mendelson]

Ron Johnson wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:


I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?

Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Geoff.

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[Ron Johnson]

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:
Peter Hucker wrote:

I though "Procell" was one of those cheap makes you get in Farnell?
Nope, Procells are the same batteries as 'Gold top' Duracells but bulk
packed in tens instead of consumer packed.

Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Geoff.

The genuine ones here have Made in EC printed on them - That`s 'European
Community' Duracell is part of Proctor & Gamble, I`m sure there are
factories in the US and Canada, probably China also.

Ron(UK)

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <slrngl2kr2.q30.gsm@cable.mendelson.com>,
Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

Where are they made? Instead of the usual Duracell from the far east,
today my wife brought home one made in Belgium. I expect this is the real
thing and the others are fakes.

Does it make sense to situate a battery factory in only one country when
your market is the world? One inside the EU can make sense because of
favourable trading conditions within that, but high labour costs there
means the product is unlikely to be competitive world wide.

Incidentally, I've been looking into the comparative costs of alkaline and
lithium and they seem to be priced more or less in direct relation to
their claimed life. And since that claimed life will be a best case
scenario I won't be changing to them for RM use.

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