I was only joking ! Honest ! I've seen what LN2 does to rubber. ;~)
I fail to see why CNG should be treated differently from any other hydrocarbon fuel.
Geeze, I'll be sure to be more exact in my wording next time, just you
Not true in the UK. Our roads are falling apart whilst taxes, fines and
You should be. I take a lot of care over this matter.
Not amazing when you have the right geography like Norway too.
Fibreglass and Rockwool.
"The unit is built by Toronto-based FuelMaker Corp., which says Phill
Not much of a dilemma really, since LPG attracts very little tax (people
an.2008.10.27.23.08.59.602230@woa.com.au...LOL, you sure like to argue from a position of ignorance, and don't care who
LMAO, I sure won't hold my breathe waiting for you to prove that, since all
So, less than a dollar atm seems OK.
Most clothes driers are noisy when loaded, loud even
You made the first claim. Back it up."terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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Yep, sure is. I suggest you try it. Make sure you include all motoring
related taxes, levies, duties, excises, fines, etc, both state and
federal.
Lol, doesn't even cover what is spent each year on maintenance.
LOL, you sure like to argue from a position of ignorance, and don't care
who knows it.
That is the point, motorists ARE NOT TAXED for other purposes, but are
grossly subsidised out of general revenue by EVERYONE, including
non-motorists.
LMAO, I sure won't hold my breathe waiting for you to prove that,
I think there has been talk about possibly linking your CTP/rego with"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
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Could you please list that "revenue", then list all the money spent on
roads at federal, stae and local government level?
It will be very informative for you.
Yep, sure is. I suggest you try it. Make sure you include all motoring
related taxes, levies, duties, excises, fines, etc, both state and
federal.
I have no real problem with motorists being taxed for other purposes than
roads, (although I do object to the ad-hoc nature of many of the charges)
but denying it happens is just plain ignorance.
I still remember part of the targeted bi-centennial fuel levy being used
here for a tram extension. So even when it's not supposed to go to
consolidated revenue, it still doesn't benefit drivers.
(OT. Trams must be the worst form of public transport invented IMO, and
the
biggest cause of traffic congestion in the cities of those that have them,
along with indiscriminate on street parking)
Then there are the cross subsidies actually spent on roads, but mainly for
the benefit of freight transport. Car drivers help fund the free
interstate
highway network, whilst being forced to pay tolls on many local roads. So
they could at least admit non-motorist consumers benefit from all those
motoring taxes, levies, duties, excises, fines, etc. etc,or get the
interstate freight off the road and onto the rail network where it should
be
IMO! Or how about tolls on the Hume, and all the current freeways to bring
some semblance of fairness to the system.
My first change though would be to cut out fixed registration and CTP
charges, and increase fuel taxes, thereby making smaller or hybrid
vehicles
and motorcycles a viable option as a second or even third vehicle, and
making those who use their vehicles more, actually pay more.
**I sort of agree with this. It would be a true user pays system. However,
there are a couple of sticking points:
In more than 35 years of driving, I've never caused the injury of another,
pedestrian driver, passenger, nor myself, nor a passenger in my car/s. Yet,
my CTP insurance STILL rises each and every year. There needs to be a fairer
way for those drivers who don't hurt other road users.
That makes some sense.
I was taking the piss, it's what we do here in Oz.
Not a very convincing excuse !
**Here is what ONE Sydney council spent:"terryc" <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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Yep, sure is. I suggest you try it. Make sure you include all motoring
related taxes, levies, duties, excises, fines, etc, both state and
federal.
Lol, doesn't even cover what is spent each year on maintenance.
LOL, you sure like to argue from a position of ignorance, and don't care
who
knows it.
That is the point, motorists ARE NOT TAXED for other purposes,
but are grossly subsidised out of general revenue by EVERYONE,
including non-motorists.
LMAO, I sure won't hold my breathe waiting for you to prove that, since
all
government figures are to the contrary. Even THEY don't make such a
ridiculous claim.
EXACTLY ! MORE TAXES.
**Just to fill you in on the precise nature of the discussion, we're talking
an.2008.10.28.08.52.50.403426@woa.com.au...Nope, I responded to a post which may or may not have been yours. I'm sure
If you're talking about toll roads, I think they are probably far less than
e%20Plus%20Charts.pdf
So you DELIBERATELY ignore what I posted two or three times already :
And how motorists contribute to general taxation.
an.2008.10.29.03.44.34.227318@woa.com.au...Which of course is rubbish, or they would charge for each specific service,