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In article <UMadnWDM-LRXJAOiRVn-vw@buckeye-express.com>, "Mark Jones"
<127.0.0.1> mentioned...
taggers graffiti up the walls. They used some outdoor enclosures with
the long tubular incandescent lights, which last a month or two and
burn out, have to be replaced often, and are big power wasters. They
also used a couple outdoor enclosures with the CFL lights in them,
which seem bright enough, are a lot easier on the electricity, and
haven't burned out in more than a year.
I don't know if these outdoor CFL lights are sold in colder climates,
but here in So. Calif, they're a lot better choice than others, even
if they cost more to begin with, because of the savings in
electricity.
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<127.0.0.1> mentioned...
The maint people put some light fixtures in the alley where theIn news:btctpv4trjsdfj8ppkvpqog6fkrsddkrb6@4ax.com (oldsoundguy):
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:02:18 -0500, "Mark Jones" <127.0.0.1> wrote:
In news:kq4spv0f1iaaggncjfbql6u8p1649g64js@4ax.com (oldsoundguy):
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:31:28 GMT, ehsjr@bellatlantic.net wrote:
oldsoundguy wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:48:05 GMT, ehsjr@bellatlantic.net wrote:
oldsoundguy wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 04:50:04 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun"
alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote:
In article <3F9B2231.1F7899B3@bellatlantic.net>,
ehsjr@bellatlantic.net mentioned...
My electrical bill was in the 280 US a month range .. lowest being
140 a month .. now it ranges (with a local 30% INCREASE in rates)
between 90 on the low to 180 on the high .. I would say that using
fluroescents is a substantial saving. I have 3 way in the lamps
requireing same. Only those fixtures running less than a 40 watt
sitll have incancescent lamps, as 40 watt is the lowest that you
can buy at present in the CCF lreplacement bulbs. add to that in
a two year time, I have yet to have to replace a single bulb
(including outdoor porch lamps and bathroom lamps and the hood
lamp over the stove top) .. and the new CCF bulbs come with a 7
year warantee.
I assume the high-low difference is seasonal? Heating and/or
air conditioning related? Your low delta is 140 to 90, so that's
a 50 dollar difference. How many incandescants at what wattage
did you replace? How many "rating watts" did you save per
replacement, based on the wattage of the incandescent vs the
wattage of the fluorescent?
SHEESH!! you people are so ANTI saving money you question
everything????
Who is anti saving money???
Is it unreasonable to ask where the 50 - 100 dollar savings
comes from, when that represents about 370-740 kwh lower
energy use at the rates I pay? Since you seem to attribute
it to converted lighting, is it unreasonable to ask how many
fixtures you converted, and what the estimated savings in
watts are for each converted fixture?
How hard could the answer be?
You could say something like
"I replaced 20 75 watt incandescent bulbs with 20
15 watt fluorescent bulbs, saving 60 watts per bulb" or
whatever the actual numbers are.
24 fixtures changed over to CCF 4 two ways .. increasing the
conversion from a 150 watt top to a 300 watt equivalant CCF. Bath 4
100 w rated CCF vs 4 60w incandescents. Kit same story increasing the
amount of lighting at the same time ... converting. fan lites ..
40watt .. strip can lites 4 at 40 watt equavalent. 100watt equivalent
instead of 75 watt incandescent on both front an back porches.
(BRIGHTER and lighter and less cost!!) NOW is that good enough? What I
was originaly saying is BOTTOM LINE I save money .. a BUNCH of money
over a years time .. plus I have replaced ONE bulb and exchanged it on
the warantee! whereas I used to replace MOST of the incandescents at
least twice a year .. the quality of workmanship in todays chinese
light bulb manufacturing facilities and sold under almost everyone's
label.
Note, CF's will NOT work outside when it gets cold... they just
flicker. Unless yours are some new, special type, never-before-seen...
it is AMAZING how much some people claim to know when they haven't
even TRIED something! ... the bulbs work outside because they are
confined in fixtures that have glass over same and the fixtures are
under cover, mounted to the building wall. Now this has been this way
for two years without a problem .. IF you are above the Artic Circle,
or in the North woods or Northern Maine or In North Dakota or Montana
.. could be they would present a problem. I am NOT in any of those
god forsaken places!!
Well good for you, but for the rest of us who ARE in those god-forsaken
places, then CF's DO NOT WORK outside!
taggers graffiti up the walls. They used some outdoor enclosures with
the long tubular incandescent lights, which last a month or two and
burn out, have to be replaced often, and are big power wasters. They
also used a couple outdoor enclosures with the CFL lights in them,
which seem bright enough, are a lot easier on the electricity, and
haven't burned out in more than a year.
I don't know if these outdoor CFL lights are sold in colder climates,
but here in So. Calif, they're a lot better choice than others, even
if they cost more to begin with, because of the savings in
electricity.
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Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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