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who is seeing your monitor??My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor
its self
signal coming from the cabling? And if for some reason they have it hard
wired, is
there a way to detect that? Any defensive measures I can take to defend a
hard wire
or a remote tap?
Actually the technology isn't classified. Indeed it's ratherIn sci.physics.electromag Cotton eye joe <loosenut@earthlink.net> wrote:
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In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:
Good response. Now heres mine:
You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.
The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.
The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.
E
Raving paranoia...
The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to round up the real bad
guys, you know, the ones that blow up buildings and such.
You think some agency is going to spring the resources to spy on some
local dufus and his computer usage?
--
Jim Pennino
Remove -spam-sux to reply.
E does bring up a good point. Where do the "bad guys" get the technology to run
operations such as I am experiencing? I see where you make reference to our ability
to read a rf emitted from a hardwired video source.
I know this to be true as I have several dome cams on my cctv system that are
virtually impossible to tell where they are pointing unless you are looking at the
monitor. Not only can these hoodlums see which direction they point but they are
seeing in detail what's on my screen.
I'm sorry but I can't fathom that sort of equipment being available at radio shack.
Rogue gov. employees, possibly or maybe our govt. is allowing this technology be used
by certain non-government organizations so that arguments such as this one will leave
controversy as to who is responsible. If the govt. is the only one with such
technology when a scandal arises they are the only ones that can be blamed.
Therefore they must allow it to be used in the private sector so as to keep the
waters a little muddy....just a thought
Cotton Eye Joe
California where the waves come
sweepin thru your brain....
TEMPEST technology is classified.
If one has no security clearance, none. One cannot leak what oneHave you a clue on the repercussions of leaking classified information?
The classical attack is off the monitor itself (cables are"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
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Baphomet wrote:
"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read
to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to
the
sounds taking place.
snip...snip...snip...
Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?
Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters,
even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.
The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
"yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep of a TV set about a half mile
away"
Wow, I'm really surprised it would travel that far.
My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor its self
signal coming from the cabling?
The problem is size of the monitor and the open glass in theAnd if for some reason they have it hard wired, is
there a way to detect that?
Tinfoil hat.Any defensive measures I can take to defend a hard wire
or a remote tap?
have read here. I have a situation where my agressors, perps, whatever are operating"Cotton eye joe" <loosenut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:lZ5Bb.4283$_r6.1265@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor
its self
signal coming from the cabling? And if for some reason they have it hard
wired, is
there a way to detect that? Any defensive measures I can take to defend a
hard wire
or a remote tap?
who is seeing your monitor??
I am leary to say but it cant be any further out than some of the items discussions I
Keith,In article <pq3Bb.4141$_r6.700@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
loosenut@earthlink.net says...
"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Baphomet wrote:
"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read
to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to
the
sounds taking place.
snip...snip...snip...
Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?
Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters,
even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.
The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
"yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep of a TV set about a half mile
away"
Wow, I'm really surprised it would travel that far.
My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor its
self
signal coming from the cabling?
The classical attack is off the monitor itself (cables are
relatively easy to shield). There is a significant beam current
in the CRT, which can be monitored from quite a distance. So I'm
told, this can even be singled out from within a field of a
thousand other similar monitors, given the proper incentive.
And if for some reason they have it hard wired, is
there a way to detect that?
The problem is size of the monitor and the open glass in the
front, as well as the rather high beam current. There is also
the coupling to the power source. These are far larger issues
than the transmission lines to the monitor.
Any defensive measures I can take to defend a hard wire
or a remote tap?
Tinfoil hat.
--
Keith
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My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the
monitor
its self
signal coming from the cabling? And if for some reason they have it
hard
wired, is
there a way to detect that? Any defensive measures I can take to
defend a
hard wire
or a remote tap?
who is seeing your monitor??
I am leary to say but it cant be any further out than some of the items
discussions I
have read here. I have a situation where my agressors, perps, whatever are
operating
from two houses whose back yards back up to a road. We live accross the
road and up
on a knoll. Keep in mind they don't really have yards just a large common
heavily
wooded area. I have some pretty powerful PTZ dome cams that allows me to
monitor a
large area surrounding my house maybe a half mile optically zoomed.
When there is a disturbance say, around the pool area and I pan over to
it, I will
hear a loud knocking coming from across the rd as if to warn the intruder.
It's been
almost two years now and there is no doubt they view my monitor. None what
so ever. I
have several photos of an individual sitting on an observation platform
in the
wooded area who is sitting and staring into a monitor, maybe a half a
dozen shots.
Its a field monitor, an old one like I have used in the military, complete
with side
visors sitting on a three legged stand. Every time we have focused on one
they
quickly turn it off. Except for once when it was sitting unattended for
several
minutes before someone walked over and pulled the plug. Yes absolutely
they see it.
Even when I use a spot monitor in a vault with the main monitor off.
CEJ
"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.
snip...snip...snip...
Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?
Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters, even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.