Your computer is never secure

[E]

I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.
It sounded alien-like, something out of sci-fi movie. Bleeps and bloops,
morse code like.
But, it validated the claim that signals do come out of your home pc.
With that in mind, software security (firewalls, antivirus) seems futile.
If signals come OUT, can they be taken IN?

Since i'm not a scientist, nor well versed in electromagentism - I dont have
this answer.
Perhaps this is what Infrared does and worrying about someone zapping my
computer to install spyware is paranoia.
But, since a signals can be read and analyzed, it makes sense that Big
Brother would keep the public uninformed as it relates to signal securing.
Google this: 'TEMPEST'.
Or see: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html

The FCC is in cahoots with the pro-surveillance nazi's in the United States.
Almost every electronic device now comes with an FCC label indicating that
it must accept outside signals, in addition to its intended use. So, it
seems Big Bro has managed to slip some laws to insure their unconstitutional
controls.

What will Norton, Symantec, Microsoft do when such security breeches are
well known? If you read about TEMPEST, you know its the governments pooch to
secure THEIR data. I am unaware of the TEMPEST technology being available to
nongovernments. In fact, this would violate the FCC rule which requires your
computer be vulnerable to interference. I'm not sure what purpose this FCC
rule fulfills other than to create a red carpet for would be electronic
harrassers.

Be aware, that even though you may not be on the internet, your activity can
still be monitored through this technique. Your only recourse is to shut
your computer off.

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals coming
out of the computer?

 

[Richard Herring]

[crossposts trimmed to the more rational (?) groups. It's Friday
afternoon or I wouldn't even bother...]

In message <MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com>, E
<NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> writes

I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.
It sounded alien-like, something out of sci-fi movie. Bleeps and bloops,
morse code like.
But, it validated the claim that signals do come out of your home pc.
With that in mind, software security (firewalls, antivirus) seems futile.
If signals come OUT, can they be taken IN?

Not unless they're strong enough to fry you. Radio receivers need only
microvolts, but you'd need to induce several volts in a computer to
affect its operation. Google this: "inverse square law".

Since i'm not a scientist, nor well versed in electromagentism - I dont have
this answer.
Perhaps this is what Infrared does and worrying about someone zapping my
computer to install spyware is paranoia.
But, since a signals can be read and analyzed, it makes sense that Big
Brother would keep the public uninformed as it relates to signal securing.
Google this: 'TEMPEST'.
Or see: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html

Hardly secret, then, is it?

The FCC is in cahoots with the pro-surveillance nazi's in the United States.
Almost every electronic device now comes with an FCC label indicating that
it must accept outside signals, in addition to its intended use.

Nonsense. That says that it won't stop working just because you operate
it near a transmitter. It has to _tolerate_ outside signals, not obey
them.

So, it
seems Big Bro has managed to slip some laws to insure their unconstitutional
controls.

False premise, false conclusion.

What will Norton, Symantec, Microsoft do when such security breeches are
well known? If you read about TEMPEST, you know its the governments pooch to
secure THEIR data. I am unaware of the TEMPEST technology being available to
nongovernments.

More nonsense. If you actually read the web site that you yourself
cited, t you wouldn't make such silly claims.

In fact, this would violate the FCC rule which requires your
computer be vulnerable to interference.

On the contrary it says it has to be _immune_ to interference, at least
up to a certain level.

I'm not sure what purpose this FCC
rule fulfills other than to create a red carpet for would be electronic
harrassers.

It reduces the number of complaints of mutual interference they have to
deal with.

Be aware, that even though you may not be on the internet, your activity can
still be monitored through this technique. Your only recourse is to shut
your computer off.

What about brain activity? Can't they monitor that, too? ;-)

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals coming
out of the computer?

Lots of people.

--
Richard Herring

 

In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:

I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.

Most people have known that for about 30 years. Where have you been?

Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.
It sounded alien-like, something out of sci-fi movie. Bleeps and bloops,
morse code like.

In the early days of the toy microcomputer, there were programs you ran
that played tunes over your AM radio held next to the computer. Where
have you been?

But, it validated the claim that signals do come out of your home pc.
With that in mind, software security (firewalls, antivirus) seems futile.
If signals come OUT, can they be taken IN?

No, they don't go in; it's one way.

Since i'm not a scientist, nor well versed in electromagentism - I dont have
this answer.
Perhaps this is what Infrared does and worrying about someone zapping my
computer to install spyware is paranoia.

This has NOTHING to do with infrared ports, and yes, you are being paranoid.

But, since a signals can be read and analyzed, it makes sense that Big
Brother would keep the public uninformed as it relates to signal securing.
Google this: 'TEMPEST'.
Or see: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html

The concept is well known. What is kept secret is precisely what the
government does to protect its computers and what it does to try to read
other governments computers.

The FCC is in cahoots with the pro-surveillance nazi's in the United States.
Almost every electronic device now comes with an FCC label indicating that
it must accept outside signals, in addition to its intended use. So, it
seems Big Bro has managed to slip some laws to insure their unconstitutional
controls.

What that little label means in plain English is, if your cheap Walmart
cordless telephone, boom box, or baby monitor doesn't work correctly
because of interference from a licensed and legally operating transmitter,
that's just tough luck.

It does NOT mean your computer has to be capable of accepting anything via RF.

What will Norton, Symantec, Microsoft do when such security breeches are
well known? If you read about TEMPEST, you know its the governments pooch to
secure THEIR data. I am unaware of the TEMPEST technology being available to
nongovernments. In fact, this would violate the FCC rule which requires your
computer be vulnerable to interference. I'm not sure what purpose this FCC
rule fulfills other than to create a red carpet for would be electronic
harrassers.

There is NO FCC rule requiring your computer to be vulnerable to interference.

There IS a FCC rule requiring your computer to NOT interfere with other
things.

Read a little more closely.

Be aware, that even though you may not be on the internet, your activity can
still be monitored through this technique. Your only recourse is to shut
your computer off.

Since getting meaningful information via a TEMPEST technique requires you
to be close and have a lot of rather sophisticated stuff, it is not very
likely you are being spyed upon unless you are a hostile foreign government
or some such thing.

You think the government is going to spend a huge pile of money and deploy
national security technology just to watch you download porno?

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals coming
out of the computer?

Put your computer in a screen room if you're that paranoid.

--
Jim Pennino

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[Michael A. Terrell]

E wrote:

I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.
It sounded alien-like, something out of sci-fi movie. Bleeps and bloops,
morse code like.
But, it validated the claim that signals do come out of your home pc.
With that in mind, software security (firewalls, antivirus) seems futile.
If signals come OUT, can they be taken IN?

Out of your meds, again?

Since i'm not a scientist, nor well versed in electromagentism - I dont have
this answer.
Perhaps this is what Infrared does and worrying about someone zapping my
computer to install spyware is paranoia.
But, since a signals can be read and analyzed, it makes sense that Big
Brother would keep the public uninformed as it relates to signal securing.
Google this: 'TEMPEST'.
Or see: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html

"Tempest" is old technology.

The FCC is in cahoots with the pro-surveillance nazi's in the United States.
Almost every electronic device now comes with an FCC label indicating that
it must accept outside signals, in addition to its intended use. So, it
seems Big Bro has managed to slip some laws to insure their unconstitutional
controls.

Bullshit! Part 15 has been in effect decades longer than personal
computers have been available.

What will Norton, Symantec, Microsoft do when such security breeches are
well known? If you read about TEMPEST, you know its the governments pooch to
secure THEIR data. I am unaware of the TEMPEST technology being available to
nongovernments. In fact, this would violate the FCC rule which requires your
computer be vulnerable to interference. I'm not sure what purpose this FCC
rule fulfills other than to create a red carpet for would be electronic
harrassers.

Tempest hardened equipment is for use with top secret data. It is
nothing more than well shielded cases, and low electromagnetic radiation
monitors.

Be aware, that even though you may not be on the internet, your activity can
still be monitored through this technique. Your only recourse is to shut
your computer off.

What are you doing with your computer you need to worry about? Unless
you are using a Tempest rated system, and are connected to a secure
server, the data to and from your computer can be traced online.

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals coming
out of the computer?

Spend $30,000 for a full Tempest rated system, or don't commit
illegal acts with your computer.
--
20 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[E]

Good response. Now heres mine:

You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.

The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.

The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.

E



"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FD0D529.F5073195@earthlink.net...

E wrote:

I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to
the
sounds taking place.
It sounded alien-like, something out of sci-fi movie. Bleeps and bloops,
morse code like.
But, it validated the claim that signals do come out of your home pc.
With that in mind, software security (firewalls, antivirus) seems
futile.
If signals come OUT, can they be taken IN?

Out of your meds, again?


Since i'm not a scientist, nor well versed in electromagentism - I dont
have
this answer.
Perhaps this is what Infrared does and worrying about someone zapping my
computer to install spyware is paranoia.
But, since a signals can be read and analyzed, it makes sense that Big
Brother would keep the public uninformed as it relates to signal
securing.
Google this: 'TEMPEST'.
Or see: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html

"Tempest" is old technology.

The FCC is in cahoots with the pro-surveillance nazi's in the United
States.
Almost every electronic device now comes with an FCC label indicating
that
it must accept outside signals, in addition to its intended use. So, it
seems Big Bro has managed to slip some laws to insure their
unconstitutional
controls.

Bullshit! Part 15 has been in effect decades longer than personal
computers have been available.

What will Norton, Symantec, Microsoft do when such security breeches are
well known? If you read about TEMPEST, you know its the governments
pooch to
secure THEIR data. I am unaware of the TEMPEST technology being
available to
nongovernments. In fact, this would violate the FCC rule which requires
your
computer be vulnerable to interference. I'm not sure what purpose this
FCC
rule fulfills other than to create a red carpet for would be electronic
harrassers.

Tempest hardened equipment is for use with top secret data. It is
nothing more than well shielded cases, and low electromagnetic radiation
monitors.

Be aware, that even though you may not be on the internet, your activity
can
still be monitored through this technique. Your only recourse is to shut
your computer off.

What are you doing with your computer you need to worry about? Unless
you are using a Tempest rated system, and are connected to a secure
server, the data to and from your computer can be traced online.

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Spend $30,000 for a full Tempest rated system, or don't commit
illegal acts with your computer.
--
20 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:

Good response. Now heres mine:

You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.

The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.

The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.

E

Raving paranoia...

The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to round up the real bad
guys, you know, the ones that blow up buildings and such.

You think some agency is going to spring the resources to spy on some
local dufus and his computer usage?


--
Jim Pennino

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[Cotton eye joe]

<jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:bqtkhd$158$1@mail.specsol.com...

In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:
Good response. Now heres mine:

You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.

The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.

The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.

E

Raving paranoia...

The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to round up the real bad
guys, you know, the ones that blow up buildings and such.

You think some agency is going to spring the resources to spy on some
local dufus and his computer usage?


--
Jim Pennino

Remove -spam-sux to reply.

E does bring up a good point. Where do the "bad guys" get the technology to run
operations such as I am experiencing? I see where you make reference to our ability
to read a rf emitted from a hardwired video source.
I know this to be true as I have several dome cams on my cctv system that are
virtually impossible to tell where they are pointing unless you are looking at the
monitor. Not only can these hoodlums see which direction they point but they are
seeing in detail what's on my screen.

I'm sorry but I can't fathom that sort of equipment being available at radio shack.
Rogue gov. employees, possibly or maybe our govt. is allowing this technology be used
by certain non-government organizations so that arguments such as this one will leave
controversy as to who is responsible. If the govt. is the only one with such
technology when a scandal arises they are the only ones that can be blamed.
Therefore they must allow it to be used in the private sector so as to keep the
waters a little muddy....just a thought

Cotton Eye Joe
California where the waves come
sweepin thru your brain....

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Cotton eye joe wrote:

jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:bqtkhd$158$1@mail.specsol.com...
In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:
Good response. Now heres mine:

You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.

The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.

The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.

E

Raving paranoia...

The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to round up the real bad
guys, you know, the ones that blow up buildings and such.

You think some agency is going to spring the resources to spy on some
local dufus and his computer usage?


--
Jim Pennino

Remove -spam-sux to reply.

E does bring up a good point. Where do the "bad guys" get the technology to run
operations such as I am experiencing? I see where you make reference to our ability
to read a rf emitted from a hardwired video source.
I know this to be true as I have several dome cams on my cctv system that are
virtually impossible to tell where they are pointing unless you are looking at the
monitor. Not only can these hoodlums see which direction they point but they are
seeing in detail what's on my screen.

I'm sorry but I can't fathom that sort of equipment being available at radio shack.
Rogue gov. employees, possibly or maybe our govt. is allowing this technology be used
by certain non-government organizations so that arguments such as this one will leave
controversy as to who is responsible. If the govt. is the only one with such
technology when a scandal arises they are the only ones that can be blamed.
Therefore they must allow it to be used in the private sector so as to keep the
waters a little muddy....just a thought

Cotton Eye Joe
California where the waves come
sweepin thru your brain....

This will keep you guys busy for a while.

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=+video+electromagnetic+radiation&btnG=Google+Search&lr=lang_en>
--
18 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

In sci.physics.electromag Cotton eye joe <loosenut@earthlink.net> wrote:

jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:bqtkhd$158$1@mail.specsol.com...
In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:
Good response. Now heres mine:

You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.

The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.

The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.

E

Raving paranoia...

The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to round up the real bad
guys, you know, the ones that blow up buildings and such.

You think some agency is going to spring the resources to spy on some
local dufus and his computer usage?


--
Jim Pennino

Remove -spam-sux to reply.

E does bring up a good point. Where do the "bad guys" get the technology to run
operations such as I am experiencing? I see where you make reference to our ability
to read a rf emitted from a hardwired video source.
I know this to be true as I have several dome cams on my cctv system that are
virtually impossible to tell where they are pointing unless you are looking at the
monitor. Not only can these hoodlums see which direction they point but they are
seeing in detail what's on my screen.

I'm sorry but I can't fathom that sort of equipment being available at radio shack.
Rogue gov. employees, possibly or maybe our govt. is allowing this technology be used
by certain non-government organizations so that arguments such as this one will leave
controversy as to who is responsible. If the govt. is the only one with such
technology when a scandal arises they are the only ones that can be blamed.
Therefore they must allow it to be used in the private sector so as to keep the
waters a little muddy....just a thought

Cotton Eye Joe
California where the waves come
sweepin thru your brain....

TEMPEST technology is classified.

Have you a clue on the repercussions of leaking classified information?


--
Jim Pennino

Remove -spam-sux to reply.

 

[E]

<jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:bqvpn6

TEMPEST technology is classified.

Have you a clue on the repercussions of leaking classified information?

ooh, so classified the NSA shows a Tempest endorsed product list on their
web site:
http://www.nsa.gov/isso/bao/tempest1/tm1_76.htm

Quick, someone call Homeland Security. NSA has classified technology on
their website!

E

--
Jim Pennino

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[Cotton eye joe]

<jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:bqvpn6$ivd$7@mail.specsol.com...

In sci.physics.electromag Cotton eye joe <loosenut@earthlink.net> wrote:

jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message
news:bqtkhd$158$1@mail.specsol.com...
In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:
Good response. Now heres mine:

You assume those with such technologies, which are capable of violating
computer privacy, are all civil, well meaning, people.
There's mountains of data that contradict your assumption.
Rogue employees exist everywhere. I cant and wont put it past someone to
abuse this government technology to spy or harrass "undesirables", or
someone they dont like.

The reason these technologies CAN be abused is because of useful idiots who
correlate exposers to the mentally ill. Suppose such an operation were
taking place where each hand all the way up the command hierarchy was
involved in a social sting operation to rid the world of "undesirables", you
would be their useful idiot maintaining the myth that such technologies are
NEVER abused.

The model is perfect, and its used by the fascist right wing.

E

Raving paranoia...

The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to round up the real bad
guys, you know, the ones that blow up buildings and such.

You think some agency is going to spring the resources to spy on some
local dufus and his computer usage?


--
Jim Pennino

Remove -spam-sux to reply.


E does bring up a good point. Where do the "bad guys" get the technology to run
operations such as I am experiencing? I see where you make reference to our
ability
to read a rf emitted from a hardwired video source.
I know this to be true as I have several dome cams on my cctv system that are
virtually impossible to tell where they are pointing unless you are looking at
the
monitor. Not only can these hoodlums see which direction they point but they are
seeing in detail what's on my screen.

I'm sorry but I can't fathom that sort of equipment being available at radio
shack.
Rogue gov. employees, possibly or maybe our govt. is allowing this technology be
used
by certain non-government organizations so that arguments such as this one will
leave
controversy as to who is responsible. If the govt. is the only one with such
technology when a scandal arises they are the only ones that can be blamed.
Therefore they must allow it to be used in the private sector so as to keep the
waters a little muddy....just a thought

Cotton Eye Joe
California where the waves come
sweepin thru your brain....

TEMPEST technology is classified.

Have you a clue on the repercussions of leaking classified information?


--
Jim Pennino

It's also illegal to start fires, unless your the fire dept. doing it for a purpose.
Yes I have some idea as to the ramifications of breaching security polices, but it's
my position that if it is being leaked it is done so by the very people that enforce
the rules with regard to security clearances.
> Remove -spam-sux to reply.

 

In sci.physics.electromag E <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote:

jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:bqvpn6
TEMPEST technology is classified.

Have you a clue on the repercussions of leaking classified information?

ooh, so classified the NSA shows a Tempest endorsed product list on their
web site:
http://www.nsa.gov/isso/bao/tempest1/tm1_76.htm

Quick, someone call Homeland Security. NSA has classified technology on
their website!

E

That's TEMPEST as in the product doesn't leak information via RF that is
interceptable by TEMPEST techniques.

This is not equipment that intercepts the RF from other equipment and
reconstructs what information is being processed.

Dolt; learn to read.

--
Jim Pennino

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In sci.physics.electromag Cotton eye joe <loosenut@earthlink.net> wrote:

It's also illegal to start fires, unless your the fire dept. doing it for a purpose.
Yes I have some idea as to the ramifications of breaching security polices, but it's
my position that if it is being leaked it is done so by the very people that enforce
the rules with regard to security clearances.

Best you put your aluminium foil hat on and get in the bunker now that they
know you know.

--
Jim Pennino

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[Baphomet]

"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...

I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.

snip...snip...snip...

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters, even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Baphomet wrote:

"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.

snip...snip...snip...

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters, even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.

The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Baphomet]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FD49FBF.C0AB61FE@earthlink.net...

Baphomet wrote:

"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read
to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to
the
sounds taking place.

snip...snip...snip...

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters,
even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.

The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep of a TV set about a half mile
away"

Wow, I'm really surprised it would travel that far.

 

[Cotton eye joe]

I don't understand, why the smart ass remarks? If someone has an opinion that doesn't
support your theory
all you can do is reply like a smart alec little child?
See my remark to someone like you is you need a good
ole fashion ass whoopin. One day you will make a smarty ass remark like that to
someone who doesn't cotton to smart ass's, and teach you a little respect or do you
only to it on line. Where I was raised men don't talk like that to other men, unless
they expect to step outside to settle it. Show some respect son, it will take you
farther. These are serious issues, lives are at stake, your comments are not taken
lightly.

Cotton Eye

<jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com> wrote in message news:br0vpa$c58$2@mail.specsol.com...

In sci.physics.electromag Cotton eye joe <loosenut@earthlink.net> wrote:


It's also illegal to start fires, unless your the fire dept. doing it for a
purpose.
Yes I have some idea as to the ramifications of breaching security polices, but
it's
my position that if it is being leaked it is done so by the very people that
enforce
the rules with regard to security clearances.

Best you put your aluminium foil hat on and get in the bunker now that they
know you know.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove -spam-sux to reply.

 

[Cotton eye joe]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FD49FBF.C0AB61FE@earthlink.net...

Baphomet wrote:

"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.

snip...snip...snip...

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters, even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.

The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor its self
signal coming from the cabling? And if for some reason they have it hard wired, is
there a way to detect that? Any defensive measures I can take to defend a hard wire
or a remote tap?

CEJ

 

[Cotton eye joe]

"Baphomet" <no.spam@no.spam.us> wrote in message
news:vt99amsfq68m42@corp.supernews.com...

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FD49FBF.C0AB61FE@earthlink.net...
Baphomet wrote:

"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read
to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to
the
sounds taking place.

snip...snip...snip...

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters,
even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.

The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep of a TV set about a half mile
away"

Wow, I'm really surprised it would travel that far.

My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor its self
signal coming from the cabling? And if for some reason they have it hard wired, is
there a way to detect that? Any defensive measures I can take to defend a hard wire
or a remote tap?

CEJ

 

[Cotton eye joe]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3FD49FBF.C0AB61FE@earthlink.net...

Baphomet wrote:

"E" <NecronicSPAMISFORGIRLS@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPidnfOSYpqRP02i4p2dnA@comcast.com...
I found out Electromagenetic waves emitted from computers can be read to
conclude what activity is taking place.
Curious about this, I placed an AM radio next to my PC and listened to the
sounds taking place.

snip...snip...snip...

Or, does someone out there know what one can do to block the signals
coming
out of the computer?

Wouldn't the receiver have to be in relatively close proximity to the
monitor? Computers, monitors et al are not designed to be transmitters, even
though they all emit some spurious electromagnetic radiation.

The older monitors had higher emission, and you could pick up the
horizontal sweep, and the video, amplify it, and feed it to a monitor to
see an image. There is more shielding in newer monitors, and they use
less sweep power. I built a WWVB loop antenna about 10 years ago. I
lived WAY out in the country, yet I could pick up the horizontal sweep
of a TV set about a half mile away. 15.73434 KHZ * 4 = 62.93736 KHz. At
night the guy would leave it on, and after the TV station went off the
air it would drift right through 60 KHz, and wipe out my frequency
standard. The antenna was a simple shielded, tuned loop with an op amp
at the antenna. The signal would have been much stronger sitting in his
driveway.
--
17 days!


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

My question is are they seeing my monitor via the emission for the monitor its self
signal coming from the cabling? And if for some reason they have it hard wired, is
there a way to detect that? Any defensive measures I can take to defend a hard wire
or a remote tap?

CEJ