Yihua 936 heating element

On 9/08/2015 9:56 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
On 08 Aug 2015, Clocky wrote:


Be wary of sellers selling IC's dirt cheap as new or NOS.
They can be recovered chips from used equipment. Again,
contact the seller if you get duped.

Do you know of any real evidence for this?

Yes, it happened to me.

I'm just curious, I
rarely order ICs from China on Ebay, but I'm thinking of getting
some LM3914s at the moment.

I ordered some MOSEL 6264 SRAM selling as new or NOS (can't remember
which) but condition was listed as new.

The date code was 0832 which is not long before MOSEL shut up shop but
the chips had definitely been desoldered with traces of solder still on
the pins.

All the chips worked and I was happy with what I paid and would have
paid that much for used chips anyway but when I contacted the seller I
was given a further discount refunded to my account.

The seller promised to relist any subsequent chips as used but I don't
think they were ever listed again.

I know about the fake chips that pop up with expensive audio
transistors and the like.

Fake capacitors even, small ones housed inside large cans.
 
Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
On 9/08/2015 9:56 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
On 08 Aug 2015, Clocky wrote:


Be wary of sellers selling IC's dirt cheap as new or NOS.
They can be recovered chips from used equipment. Again,
contact the seller if you get duped.

Do you know of any real evidence for this?

Yes, it happened to me.

I'm just curious, I
rarely order ICs from China on Ebay, but I'm thinking of getting
some LM3914s at the moment.

I ordered some MOSEL 6264 SRAM selling as new or NOS (can't remember
which) but condition was listed as new.

The date code was 0832 which is not long before MOSEL shut up shop but
the chips had definitely been desoldered with traces of solder still on
the pins.

All the chips worked and I was happy with what I paid and would have
paid that much for used chips anyway but when I contacted the seller I
was given a further discount refunded to my account.

Interesting, thanks for sharing. There's surprisingly little I can find on
the 'net about the specifics of all this.

The seller promised to relist any subsequent chips as used but I don't
think they were ever listed again.

I know about the fake chips that pop up with expensive audio
transistors and the like.


Fake capacitors even, small ones housed inside large cans.

As a rule I don't buy electrolytics off Ebay whatever the price due to
"capacitor plague". Sounds like that's just the first reason to avoid
them.

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Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 7/08/2015 6:29 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
[snipped]
Awesome! Thanks, ordered and paid for (NZ$6.68). Had to jump through
a few hoops and set up an account with ebay but I already have a
Paypal account so that part went smoothly. Now I'll just hurry up
and wait for it. ;)

I'm still waiting for mine... you get used to the waiting :)

Oh, really? I was going to ask. Patence isn't my strong suit. At that price
I'm tempted to order another one or two (or three even) - why change tips
when you can change irons? It's easier to change irons than tips -
especially when they're hot. I'm doubly impatient because in the past when
I've found good deals often they don't last long.

However I'd like to know that what I'm getting is going to work before I
commit any more of my 'really needed elsewhere' money....

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
 
On 11/08/2015 9:50 p.m., Clocky wrote:
On 10/08/2015 6:11 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 7/08/2015 6:29 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
[snipped]
Awesome! Thanks, ordered and paid for (NZ$6.68). Had to jump through
a few hoops and set up an account with ebay but I already have a
Paypal account so that part went smoothly. Now I'll just hurry up
and wait for it.

I'm still waiting for mine... you get used to the waiting

Oh, really? I was going to ask. Patence isn't my strong suit. At that
price
I'm tempted to order another one or two (or three even) - why change tips
when you can change irons? It's easier to change irons than tips -
especially when they're hot. I'm doubly impatient because in the past
when
I've found good deals often they don't last long.

However I'd like to know that what I'm getting is going to work before I
commit any more of my 'really needed elsewhere' money....

Cheers,

Yeah, that's why I ordered only one. If it's good, I'll order another one
or two also.

Great minds huh?

You should get yours before I get mine - can you please let me know what you
think of it when you
do? I'd appreciate it. I got an email on the 8th saying mine had been
shipped.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
 
On 11/08/2015 6:04 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 11/08/2015 9:50 p.m., Clocky wrote:
On 10/08/2015 6:11 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 7/08/2015 6:29 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
[snipped]
Awesome! Thanks, ordered and paid for (NZ$6.68). Had to jump through
a few hoops and set up an account with ebay but I already have a
Paypal account so that part went smoothly. Now I'll just hurry up
and wait for it.

I'm still waiting for mine... you get used to the waiting

Oh, really? I was going to ask. Patence isn't my strong suit. At that
price
I'm tempted to order another one or two (or three even) - why change tips
when you can change irons? It's easier to change irons than tips -
especially when they're hot. I'm doubly impatient because in the past
when
I've found good deals often they don't last long.

However I'd like to know that what I'm getting is going to work before I
commit any more of my 'really needed elsewhere' money....

Cheers,

Yeah, that's why I ordered only one. If it's good, I'll order another one
or two also.

Great minds huh?

You should get yours before I get mine - can you please let me know what you
think of it when you
do? I'd appreciate it. I got an email on the 8th saying mine had been
shipped.

Cheers,

Yeah no worries will do. Mine should be arriving this week.
 
On 11/08/2015 11:18 PM, Clocky wrote:




Yeah no worries will do. Mine should be arriving this week.

OK, it arrived. Packaging was barely adequate, a plastic bag containing
handle wrapped in bubble wrap inside a shipping bag.

Well the handle is very similar to the one that came with my station.
The cord is about 90mm shorter, the grip is slightly different and the
supplied tip is the same as what with my original handle. Useless IOW.

If anything it is slightly cheaper made then the original supplied one
but there is nothing in it. The connector is the same, the cord is the
same bar the length, the element looks to be interchangeable though it's
PCB is identical in design but not the same manufacturer. It's somewhat
easier to slide out of the handle which is a good thing as on the
original it was a very tight fit and much tighter then it should have been.

Plugged it in and it heats up. Needed a bit of calibration as temp was
off by a bit but otherwise OK.

Will use it for a while to see how it goes.

Let me know what you think when you get yours.
 
On 14/08/2015 12:23 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2015 11:18 PM, Clocky wrote:




Yeah no worries will do. Mine should be arriving this week.


OK, it arrived. Packaging was barely adequate, a plastic bag
containing handle wrapped in bubble wrap inside a shipping bag.

Well the handle is very similar to the one that came with my station.
The cord is about 90mm shorter, the grip is slightly different and the
supplied tip is the same as what with my original handle. Useless IOW.

If anything it is slightly cheaper made then the original supplied one
but there is nothing in it. The connector is the same, the cord is the
same bar the length, the element looks to be interchangeable though
it's PCB is identical in design but not the same manufacturer. It's
somewhat easier to slide out of the handle which is a good thing as
on the original it was a very tight fit and much tighter then it should
have
been.
Plugged it in and it heats up. Needed a bit of calibration as temp was
off by a bit but otherwise OK.

Will use it for a while to see how it goes.

Let me know what you think when you get yours.

Well. I got mine today also and all of the above apply to mine (except I
didn't get bubble wrap, just a black plastic bag, similar material to
plastic rubbish bags).

Yep, I guess I got lucky with the bubble wrap. You got yours in good
time too.

The cord on mine is ~65cm (original on Yihua 852D+ rework station was ~85cm,
I guess you could say 90cm including the bit that goes through the handle to
the PCB).I find the new one to be a bit too short for how I've got my work
area set up (but I can work with it). Also the cord is a bit stiffer than
the cord on the original, the original's cord is quite supple.


The heating element that my original is fitted with isn't ceramic on the
outside, it appears to have a metalic sheath over a ceramic element (the end
is ceramic). This new one is bare ceramic, both are ~3.8mm diameter athough
the new one has a 'burr' on the end that makes it a tight fit in some of my
tips. However that's wearing off already so shouldn't be an ongoing issue.
The PCBs are completely different with the old one looking to be much higher
quality.

Our original handles sound like they might be slightly different, mine
had a ceramic element like the replacement does.

It's also cooler than the original at the same temperature setting, by
perhaps 25ş C. However I've never really used the displayed temperature as
anything other than a rough guide so that shouldn't bother me either. I
wouldn't have a clue as to how to calibrate it and if I did find a trimpot
inside the case changing handles would throw it off each time anyway.

On my station the trimpot is accessible externally just under the main
dial. I checked the temperature using the temp sensor on my multimeter
and tweaked it. I don't have much faith in the indicated temperature
either, it's just a rough guide.

I've just gone ahead and ordered two more with a note to the seller "Can you
please supply these two with the 90cm cable as per the listing as the last
one I bought only has a 65cm cable." It's worth a try but I'll take them
with the shorter cable if I have to. At that price they're a steal even if
they're not quite as good as the original and even on my tight budget I
managed to find the ~NZ$13.50 for a couple more.

Doesn't hurt to ask. You could always desolder the element and swap it I
suppose.

Cheers and thanks for the OP as otherwise I wouldn't have known about these.
:)

No worries :)
 
Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2015 11:18 PM, Clocky wrote:




Yeah no worries will do. Mine should be arriving this week.


OK, it arrived. Packaging was barely adequate, a plastic bag
containing handle wrapped in bubble wrap inside a shipping bag.

Well the handle is very similar to the one that came with my station.
The cord is about 90mm shorter, the grip is slightly different and the
supplied tip is the same as what with my original handle. Useless IOW.

If anything it is slightly cheaper made then the original supplied one
but there is nothing in it. The connector is the same, the cord is the
same bar the length, the element looks to be interchangeable though
it's PCB is identical in design but not the same manufacturer. It's
somewhat easier to slide out of the handle which is a good thing as
on the original it was a very tight fit and much tighter then it should
have
been.
Plugged it in and it heats up. Needed a bit of calibration as temp was
off by a bit but otherwise OK.

Will use it for a while to see how it goes.

Let me know what you think when you get yours.

Well. I got mine today also and all of the above apply to mine (except I
didn't get bubble wrap, just a black plastic bag, similar material to
plastic rubbish bags).

The cord on mine is ~65cm (original on Yihua 852D+ rework station was ~85cm,
I guess you could say 90cm including the bit that goes through the handle to
the PCB).I find the new one to be a bit too short for how I've got my work
area set up (but I can work with it). Also the cord is a bit stiffer than
the cord on the original, the original's cord is quite supple.

The heating element that my original is fitted with isn't ceramic on the
outside, it appears to have a metalic sheath over a ceramic element (the end
is ceramic). This new one is bare ceramic, both are ~3.8mm diameter athough
the new one has a 'burr' on the end that makes it a tight fit in some of my
tips. However that's wearing off already so shouldn't be an ongoing issue.
The PCBs are completely different with the old one looking to be much higher
quality.

It's also cooler than the original at the same temperature setting, by
perhaps 25ş C. However I've never really used the displayed temperature as
anything other than a rough guide so that shouldn't bother me either. I
wouldn't have a clue as to how to calibrate it and if I did find a trimpot
inside the case changing handles would throw it off each time anyway.

I've just gone ahead and ordered two more with a note to the seller "Can you
please supply these two with the 90cm cable as per the listing as the last
one I bought only has a 65cm cable." It's worth a try but I'll take them
with the shorter cable if I have to. At that price they're a steal even if
they're not quite as good as the original and even on my tight budget I
managed to find the ~NZ$13.50 for a couple more.

Cheers and thanks for the OP as otherwise I wouldn't have known about these.
:)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
 
For what it's worth, here are some notes on my Hakko 907 iron bought at
about the start of the year. I don't remember exactly what I paid (this
one seems to have escaped my "Ebay records"), but it might have been a
bit more than $5.

All physical features noted about your newly purchased irons apply to
my one, except the cord is a little more than 90cm. I remember that I
specifically choose one seller with irons that had a different looking
plug on them - manually installed instead of moulded onto the cable. As
the price was about the same as the cheapest ones, I went with this
because it might mean that I could keep the connector for easy re-use
later (it won't stay on the iron because I'll be hooking that up to my
Dick Smith soldering station).

I haven't got a soldering station intended to use these irons, but I
couldn't resist powering up the element breifly while I had it
disassembled. Clearly the element itself is towards the end, and
about 1-2cm long, because this is the area that started glowing red
hot, before it started smoking (I may not have been quite breif
enough!).

Also notable is that the tip does indeed have a ground connection.
A somewhat ingenious spring that maintains contact with the barrel
when the iron is assembled.

Heating element and thermistor connections are made to pads on
the outside of the narrow ceramic heating element, towards the
bottom. The connecting high temperature insulated wires that
then go to the PCB are soldered to these pads, but the solder
joints look different to usual (more grainy) and I suspect a
high temperature solder has been used. This may make
replacement of the heating element more difficult - but I
haven't tested desoldering the connections myself, and I may
well be wrong.

The iron's PCB is simply provided to make connections between
the high temperature wires going to the ceramic heating element /
thermisotor assembly, and the wires from the cable.

Of note to those unfamiliar with these irons is that the tips
are constructed with a long hollow section in their shaft that
snugly fits the end of the ceramic heating element. This makes
them incompatible with "Weller style" tips used in may irons
marketed in Australia over the years. The tips themselves are
also unable to be used in my Weller iron because the shaft is
slightly wider than it can accommodate, I haven't checked with my
other irons which all take Weller tips.

My iron is marked (in poorly printed Gold colour):

24V ESD
HAKKO 907 50W SAFE

As noted previously in this thread, the thermistor is a PTC type
with a value around 50R at room temperature.

Specifications are effectively provided in the User Manual page
I referred to in my earlier posts.

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Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 14/08/2015 12:23 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 11/08/2015 11:18 PM, Clocky wrote:
Yeah no worries will do. Mine should be arriving this week.

OK, it arrived. Packaging was barely adequate, a plastic bag
containing handle wrapped in bubble wrap inside a shipping bag.

Well the handle is very similar to the one that came with my
station. The cord is about 90mm shorter, the grip is slightly
different and the supplied tip is the same as what with my original
handle. Useless IOW. If anything it is slightly cheaper made then the
original supplied
one but there is nothing in it. The connector is the same, the cord
is the same bar the length, the element looks to be interchangeable
though it's PCB is identical in design but not the same
manufacturer. It's somewhat easier to slide out of the handle which
is a good thing as on the original it was a very tight fit and much
tighter then it
should have
been.
Plugged it in and it heats up. Needed a bit of calibration as temp
was off by a bit but otherwise OK.

Will use it for a while to see how it goes.

Let me know what you think when you get yours.

Well. I got mine today also and all of the above apply to mine
(except I didn't get bubble wrap, just a black plastic bag, similar
material to plastic rubbish bags).

Yep, I guess I got lucky with the bubble wrap. You got yours in good
time too.

Yeah, I reckon they must have sent them on the same day. I got an email on
the 8th saying it was shipped so that was only 6 days from then. I just got
an email last night saying the others I ordered had been shipped. I wonder
if they've got the full length cables I requested? <g> I suppose there's
always the feedback system if they haven't.

The cord on mine is ~65cm (original on Yihua 852D+ rework station
was ~85cm, I guess you could say 90cm including the bit that goes
through the handle to the PCB).I find the new one to be a bit too
short for how I've got my work area set up (but I can work with it).
Also the cord is a bit stiffer than the cord on the original, the
original's cord is quite supple.

The heating element that my original is fitted with isn't ceramic on
the outside, it appears to have a metalic sheath over a ceramic
element (the end is ceramic). This new one is bare ceramic, both are
~3.8mm diameter athough the new one has a 'burr' on the end that
makes it a tight fit in some of my tips. However that's wearing off
already so shouldn't be an ongoing issue. The PCBs are completely
different with the old one looking to be much higher quality.

Our original handles sound like they might be slightly different, mine
had a ceramic element like the replacement does.

I haven't dug out the leaflet that came with mine but I'm wondering if it
wasn't a 60w unit. That might help to explain the new one being cooler as
it's 50w. I see there are 60w units on ebay for a buck or two more.

It's also cooler than the original at the same temperature setting,
by perhaps 25ş C. However I've never really used the displayed
temperature as anything other than a rough guide so that shouldn't
bother me either. I wouldn't have a clue as to how to calibrate it
and if I did find a trimpot inside the case changing handles would
throw it off each time anyway.

On my station the trimpot is accessible externally just under the main
dial.

No such luck with mine.

I checked the temperature using the temp sensor on my multimeter
and tweaked it. I don't have much faith in the indicated temperature
either, it's just a rough guide.

Yep. Iron too hot turn it down. Not hot enough turn it up. ;)

I've just gone ahead and ordered two more with a note to the seller
"Can you please supply these two with the 90cm cable as per the
listing as the last one I bought only has a 65cm cable." It's worth
a try but I'll take them with the shorter cable if I have to. At
that price they're a steal even if they're not quite as good as the
original and even on my tight budget I managed to find the ~NZ$13.50
for a couple more.

Doesn't hurt to ask. You could always desolder the element and swap
it I suppose.

Yeah. However I like the idea of not only having spares (especially at that
price) but also being able to swap irons rather than swapping tips. The only
reason that might be an issue now is I've kind of got used to where to set
the dial for different jobs and solders and with an iron that runs cooler
I'd have to use my brain (!) and factor that it. <g>

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
 
Once upon a time on usenet ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 14/08/2015 12:23 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
[snipped]
I've just gone ahead and ordered two more with a note to the seller
"Can you please supply these two with the 90cm cable as per the
listing as the last one I bought only has a 65cm cable." It's worth
a try but I'll take them with the shorter cable if I have to. At
that price they're a steal even if they're not quite as good as the
original and even on my tight budget I managed to find the ~NZ$13.50
for a couple more.

Doesn't hurt to ask. You could always desolder the element and swap
it I suppose.

Yeah. However I like the idea of not only having spares (especially
at that price) but also being able to swap irons rather than swapping
tips. The only reason that might be an issue now is I've kind of got
used to where to set the dial for different jobs and solders and with
an iron that runs cooler I'd have to use my brain (!) and factor that
it. <g

Well I got the other two at the end of last week - not bad, from ordering to
delivery in less than 7 days! Unfortunately the cable length is the same on
these as the first, not the 90cm that is specified in the listing. However I
don't think it's worth the trouble to complain - the price was good and
being a new ebay member I'm not sure how much weight a complaint would have
or if it would result in anything positive.

That said the cable length is restrictive and I seriously doubt that I can
find affordable (in this sense) five-core supple cable to replace it with a
longer piece. Who would have thought that ~20cm would make that much
difference. <shrug>
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
 
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
Well I got the other two at the end of last week - not bad, from ordering to
delivery in less than 7 days! Unfortunately the cable length is the same on
these as the first, not the 90cm that is specified in the listing. However I
don't think it's worth the trouble to complain - the price was good and
being a new ebay member I'm not sure how much weight a complaint would have
or if it would result in anything positive.

Negative feedback has a lot of weight in Ebay, that's why most of the sellers
usually plea in the listing to contact them about problems rather than leave
bad feedback. Usually where I've had a problem I've been refunded almost no
questions asked. That's with the dirt cheap stuff I buy though, might be
different if you bought something worth "real" money.

That said the cable length is restrictive and I seriously doubt that I can
find affordable (in this sense) five-core supple cable to replace it with a
longer piece. Who would have thought that ~20cm would make that much
difference. <shrug

If the stiff section was at the soldering station end, would it be all that
noticeable?

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Once upon a time on usenet Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

Well I got the other two at the end of last week - not bad, from
ordering to delivery in less than 7 days! Unfortunately the cable
length is the same on these as the first, not the 90cm that is
specified in the listing. However I don't think it's worth the
trouble to complain - the price was good and being a new ebay member
I'm not sure how much weight a complaint would have or if it would
result in anything positive.

Negative feedback has a lot of weight in Ebay, that's why most of the
sellers usually plea in the listing to contact them about problems
rather than leave bad feedback. Usually where I've had a problem I've
been refunded almost no questions asked. That's with the dirt cheap
stuff I buy though, might be different if you bought something worth
"real" money.

Ok, thanks.

That said the cable length is restrictive and I seriously doubt that
I can find affordable (in this sense) five-core supple cable to
replace it with a longer piece. Who would have thought that ~20cm
would make that much difference. <shrug

If the stiff section was at the soldering station end, would it be
all that noticeable?

I wasn't thinking of joining it, rather replacing it (as both ends have
'real' non-moulded connections). I don't like joins unless asolutely
neccassary.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
 
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:46:45 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:

Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 22/07/2015 7:03 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
Anyone have a source for ceramic heating elements for this specific
soldering station iron that they know to work/fit correctly at a good
price? TIA

The irons they're pictured with online look identical to the
replacement Hakko 907 iron I bought for ~$10 a while ago to replace
the one on a DSE T-2000 where the thermocouple has stopped working
(all potted and unfixable, unfortunately). Ah, according to this Ebay
listing, they are the same:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151736583301

The specs on this iron are in a PDF somewhere, I have a print out in
front of me now, but not the bookmark to the download. I'll post that
when I find the computer that I bookmarked all that stuff on.
It uses a PTC thermistor temp. sensor (I need to modify the temp
circuit in my old DSE station) spec'd at 43R - 58R at room
temperature. No part number in my PDF page for the heating element,
but it has "Hakko 003" printed on the side. It's possible they only
make them 1:1 with their irons.


Thanks for that. Just to update, I ordered a whole (907A) handle
assembly for under $5 inc postage which looks identical to the one I
have.

There are downsides to living in NZ. I haven't been able to find a spare
(same iron) here for under $40 and can't find a source for reasonable
tips (other than genuine Hakko ones that cost more than I can afford).

When it arrives I'll get the numbers off the element before I use it
for future reference or probably will just order another one as a
spare.
That will probably see out the life of the station anyway. It works OK
but the quality isn't great.

My Yihua 853D+ station works quite well for the light duties I send its
way.
However the cheapish tips I bought for it ($30 for six) don't last long
at all despite me excercising best practices, not using a wet sponge,
leaving the tip coated in fresh solder etc.

Try aliexpress.com
I've had outstanding luck with them dealing only mostly with those
offering free shipping.

Right now using a temperature controlled iron 60 watt for 11.00 U.S.,
don't know about longevity yet but the tip is holding up and they send
along 5 spares as well.
Nice design.
Works really well.
Control is in the handle.
 
On 16/09/2015 10:09 AM, Wayne Chirnside wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:46:45 +1200, ~misfit~ wrote:

Once upon a time on usenet Clocky wrote:
On 22/07/2015 7:03 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
Anyone have a source for ceramic heating elements for this specific
soldering station iron that they know to work/fit correctly at a good
price? TIA

The irons they're pictured with online look identical to the
replacement Hakko 907 iron I bought for ~$10 a while ago to replace
the one on a DSE T-2000 where the thermocouple has stopped working
(all potted and unfixable, unfortunately). Ah, according to this Ebay
listing, they are the same:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151736583301

The specs on this iron are in a PDF somewhere, I have a print out in
front of me now, but not the bookmark to the download. I'll post that
when I find the computer that I bookmarked all that stuff on.
It uses a PTC thermistor temp. sensor (I need to modify the temp
circuit in my old DSE station) spec'd at 43R - 58R at room
temperature. No part number in my PDF page for the heating element,
but it has "Hakko 003" printed on the side. It's possible they only
make them 1:1 with their irons.


Thanks for that. Just to update, I ordered a whole (907A) handle
assembly for under $5 inc postage which looks identical to the one I
have.

There are downsides to living in NZ. I haven't been able to find a spare
(same iron) here for under $40 and can't find a source for reasonable
tips (other than genuine Hakko ones that cost more than I can afford).

When it arrives I'll get the numbers off the element before I use it
for future reference or probably will just order another one as a
spare.
That will probably see out the life of the station anyway. It works OK
but the quality isn't great.

My Yihua 853D+ station works quite well for the light duties I send its
way.
However the cheapish tips I bought for it ($30 for six) don't last long
at all despite me excercising best practices, not using a wet sponge,
leaving the tip coated in fresh solder etc.

Try aliexpress.com
I've had outstanding luck with them dealing only mostly with those
offering free shipping.

Right now using a temperature controlled iron 60 watt for 11.00 U.S.,
don't know about longevity yet but the tip is holding up and they send
along 5 spares as well.
Nice design.
Works really well.
Control is in the handle.

Soldering irons have become a lot cheaper than they used to be.
I bought a Weller WTCP 'Curie Point' soldering iron in 1982.
It was fairly expensive then, around $100 or so. But I still use it
today, you can still buy the Curie Point tips and mine still has the
original heater element. Also, it was made in Australia by The Cooper
Tool Group, in Albury I think.
Times have changed. Cheap shit from China dominates.





I Still use it,
 

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