Yes indeed Michael. There are in fact 6 of them. Three on each side of the
Check again.
I stand corrected.
Sony Vegas software will push your processor usage up to nearly 100%
I use Kino in linux to render raw DV capture. Can't find a suitable linux
hnn76d5fjpcls7lfscj6t40hehqnc9db4@4ax.com...that assumes that all the power of the supply is actually used."Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:35:00 -0400, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0700 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote in Message id: <ebug76lk13plippid57h6q6vacu8ve4om9@4ax.com>:
I don't believe it. The winner of the power hogging consumer CPU
contest was the DEC/Intel Alpha 21364 (EV79):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_21364
which burned 155 watts. Itanium II came close with 130 watts (per
core).
Check again.
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43410&processor=9350&spec-codes=S
LBMX 185W! Gotta love that price as well.
I stand corrected.
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18445
Some of the reader comments are rather interesting. Still, with any
of these "powerful" processors, a conventional air cooled machine is
going to have a very hot breath and a rather large power supply. I
just don't see this kind of power dissipation in a "dedicated game
machine". Measuring the AC mains power consumption should settle the
matter.
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
Have you any idea just how much processing power it takes to run a
user-interactive story in real time, and then to 3D render the
graphics in real time ? Do you think that they rate the 12v PSU for
23.5 amps in one version, and 32 amps in the other, for fun ? Those
are not real questions, because I know full well when you stop and
think about it, you know the answers, Jeff.
I've just looked at the rating plate on the bottom of one of the
cases, and it is 240v (nominal UK line voltage) at 1.8 amps. I make
that a maximum input power of around 430 watts. It's a switching PSU,
so I reckon that we can rate that as being at the very worst 80%
efficient, so that's still 345 watts potentially going somewhere. I'm
prepared to go with 45 watts into ancillary circuitry on the board,
which still leaves around 300 watts going somewhere.
Well, no. I'm not a power user. What little rendering I do is with
Actually, I don't know. I don't have any customers with such machines
Ok, I stand corrected. I've been assuming that the CPU's are doing
Heh...reminds me of a previously repaired (not by me) QSC PLX series amp
Well, it used to be. ;-)
I remember reading that somewhere. I'm not sure that everyone--including
Somtimes not by a *long* shot!
Really? I find that extremely surprising, especially as firmly as some of
Well Jim, that was why I used the word "potentially", but judging by the"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:35:00 -0400, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0700 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote in Message id: <ebug76lk13plippid57h6q6vacu8ve4om9@4ax.com>:
I don't believe it. The winner of the power hogging consumer CPU
contest was the DEC/Intel Alpha 21364 (EV79):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_21364
which burned 155 watts. Itanium II came close with 130 watts (per
core).
Check again.
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43410&processor=9350&spec-codes=S
LBMX 185W! Gotta love that price as well.
I stand corrected.
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18445
Some of the reader comments are rather interesting. Still, with any
of these "powerful" processors, a conventional air cooled machine is
going to have a very hot breath and a rather large power supply. I
just don't see this kind of power dissipation in a "dedicated game
machine". Measuring the AC mains power consumption should settle the
matter.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
Have you any idea just how much processing power it takes to run a
user-interactive story in real time, and then to 3D render the
graphics in real time ? Do you think that they rate the 12v PSU for
23.5 amps in one version, and 32 amps in the other, for fun ? Those
are not real questions, because I know full well when you stop and
think about it, you know the answers, Jeff.
I've just looked at the rating plate on the bottom of one of the
cases, and it is 240v (nominal UK line voltage) at 1.8 amps. I make
that a maximum input power of around 430 watts. It's a switching PSU,
so I reckon that we can rate that as being at the very worst 80%
efficient, so that's still 345 watts potentially going somewhere. I'm
prepared to go with 45 watts into ancillary circuitry on the board,
which still leaves around 300 watts going somewhere.
that assumes that all the power of the supply is actually used.
I'm sure there is some reserve capacity there.
"max input power" is not "actual used power".
All of the processing power is in those two BGAs Jeff. They *are* the
You sure that someone hadn't left their marshmallows in there?
That's a possibility. The 3402's did get hot enough under full load
I found the Kill-o-watt meter and stuffed it in line with my Dell
Well, theory suggests that the life of a semiconductor device is
Arfa Daily wrote:
Well Jim, that was why I used the word "potentially", but judging by the
size of the pins used to couple the power supply's output into the
board -
if you've been following the thread, you will recall that I previously
described them as being of the size you would find on the line cord for a
kettle - then I wouldn't say that there was too much in the way of
reserve.
"The size you would find on the line cord for a kettle" doesn't have
much meaning in the US.
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"Michael A. Terrell" ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote in message
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? Arfa Daily wrote:
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?? Well Jim, that was why I used the word "potentially", but judging by the
?? size of the pins used to couple the power supply's output into the
?? board -
?? if you've been following the thread, you will recall that I previously
?? described them as being of the size you would find on the line cord for a
?? kettle - then I wouldn't say that there was too much in the way of
?? reserve.
?
? "The size you would find on the line cord for a kettle" doesn't have
? much meaning in the US.
Why is that ? You have electric kettles in your kitchens - I've used them.
Half what a US kettle would draw?Arfa Daily wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote in message
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? Arfa Daily wrote:
??
?? Well Jim, that was why I used the word "potentially", but judging by
the ?? size of the pins used to couple the power supply's output into
the ?? board -
?? if you've been following the thread, you will recall that I
previously ?? described them as being of the size you would find on the
line cord for a ?? kettle - then I wouldn't say that there was too much
in the way of ?? reserve.
?
? "The size you would find on the line cord for a kettle" doesn't have
? much meaning in the US.
Why is that ? You have electric kettles in your kitchens - I've used
them.
I've never seen one. Even Coffee pots are rare these days.
Or don't you call them kettles ?. OK, anyway, if it's a better
description, the size of the round ground pin on a line cord that has a
three pin plug. Is that more meaningful ? 3/16" diameter maybe ? 4mm ?
3/16" is between AWG 5 & AWG 4. 4 mm is between AWG 7 & AWG 6. How
much current do those kettles draw?
minutes for the lousy thing to boil.On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:55:34 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote in message
news:m5ednfqzQtE_8ePRnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@earthlink.com... ?
? Arfa Daily wrote:
??
?? Well Jim, that was why I used the word "potentially", but judging by
the ?? size of the pins used to couple the power supply's output into
the ?? board -
?? if you've been following the thread, you will recall that I
previously ?? described them as being of the size you would find on the
line cord for a ?? kettle - then I wouldn't say that there was too much
in the way of ?? reserve.
?
? "The size you would find on the line cord for a kettle" doesn't have
? much meaning in the US.
Why is that ? You have electric kettles in your kitchens - I've used
them.
I've never seen one. Even Coffee pots are rare these days.
Or don't you call them kettles ?. OK, anyway, if it's a better
description, the size of the round ground pin on a line cord that has a
three pin plug. Is that more meaningful ? 3/16" diameter maybe ? 4mm ?
3/16" is between AWG 5& AWG 4. 4 mm is between AWG 7& AWG 6. How
much current do those kettles draw?
Half what a US kettle would draw?
A good British 240Vac kettle will take 3KW, yes 3KW. No waiting 10