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Nial Stewart
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"Tom Seim" <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tom,
You're really not that keen on them, are you?
;-)
Nial.
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Tom,
You're really not that keen on them, are you?
;-)
Nial.
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Phil Tomson
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In article <73n9e0dcp1d7dg4smj3d088g926ogv3bne@4ax.com>,
Bob Perlman <bobsrefusebin@hotmail.com> wrote:
comes with the board under Win98? I know Win98 isn't an advertised
supported platform, but sometimes that's just because the company doesn't
want to have more platforms to test on.
The software that comes with the board won't work with Wine under Linux
apparently because Xilinx opted to use the dreaded Jungo
parallel port driver (why they want to have to pay a royalty to Jungo, I
don't know). This is likely the reason they won't have Linux support
for this board anytime soon.... on the otherhand this could also mean it
won't work under Win98.
I run Linux and OSX and and thus have no use for Windows anymore, but I do
have an old copy of Win98 laying around somewhere ;-)
Phil
Bob Perlman <bobsrefusebin@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'm wondering if you (or anyone else) might have tried the software that
comes with the board under Win98? I know Win98 isn't an advertised
supported platform, but sometimes that's just because the company doesn't
want to have more platforms to test on.
The software that comes with the board won't work with Wine under Linux
apparently because Xilinx opted to use the dreaded Jungo
parallel port driver (why they want to have to pay a royalty to Jungo, I
don't know). This is likely the reason they won't have Linux support
for this board anytime soon.... on the otherhand this could also mean it
won't work under Win98.
I run Linux and OSX and and thus have no use for Windows anymore, but I do
have an old copy of Win98 laying around somewhere ;-)
Phil
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Bob Perlman
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On 2 Jul 2004 16:44:56 GMT, ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) wrote:
Bob Perlman
Cambrian Design Works
I couldn't say. I'm running Windows 2000.
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Rich Webb
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On 2 Jul 2004 16:44:56 GMT, ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) wrote:
never got around to playing...er...working with. Download the latest
Webpack ISE from the Xilink site (6.2.03i, IIRC) and tried an install on
the home Win98SE box.
It seemed to install OK *except* that it knocked out the USB ports I was
running on a 2.0 add-in card. A quick pass through some of the examples
did seem to function, although I didn't try to actually load any of
them. It also does not register itself with the Win98 uninstall list (at
least, it didn't show up on my box's Add/Remove applette). If/when I get
serious about it (been mostly using Cypress lately) I'll probably
install it on an XP notebook and forgo the '98 issues...
YMMV and it doesn't cost anything (except time) to download the app and
try it.
They DO have Linux (Redhat) releases, as well. Trying them out is on my
One Of These Days list...
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
The thread prompted me to drag out an old Spartan II dev kit that I
never got around to playing...er...working with. Download the latest
Webpack ISE from the Xilink site (6.2.03i, IIRC) and tried an install on
the home Win98SE box.
It seemed to install OK *except* that it knocked out the USB ports I was
running on a 2.0 add-in card. A quick pass through some of the examples
did seem to function, although I didn't try to actually load any of
them. It also does not register itself with the Win98 uninstall list (at
least, it didn't show up on my box's Add/Remove applette). If/when I get
serious about it (been mostly using Cypress lately) I'll probably
install it on an XP notebook and forgo the '98 issues...
YMMV and it doesn't cost anything (except time) to download the app and
try it.
They DO have Linux (Redhat) releases, as well. Trying them out is on my
One Of These Days list...
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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Phil Tomson
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In article <s0abe0t818200pi6qmjqg5g07gar325knh@4ax.com>,
Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
miss something?
Phil
Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
Were you able to use Impact to program the device?
Well, it would cost me $99 for the board to try it out with.
But it didn't look like they had a Linux version for free download. Did I
miss something?
Phil
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Rich Webb
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On 2 Jul 2004 20:22:40 GMT, ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) wrote:
possibly be.
There's this note on the WebPack ISE main download page:
"Please note - For the 6.2 release the only supported platforms are
Windows XP and Windows 2000 with Service Pack 2 or greater."
But if one enters via the support tab and look for updates one would
find:
"Installation instructions for Linux Users
1. Download "6_2_03i_lin.tar.gz" from:
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_sw_updates_home.jsp
2. Untar the downloaded file into an empty "staging" directory."
So only Windows is supported but there is a Linux update that's the same
generation as the latest 6.2 Windows update. And there doesn't seem to
be any base 6.2 system for Linux to which the service pack can be
applied. Makes perfect sense to me... arrggggg
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
As others have noted, the Xilinx site is not as transparent as it could
possibly be.
There's this note on the WebPack ISE main download page:
"Please note - For the 6.2 release the only supported platforms are
Windows XP and Windows 2000 with Service Pack 2 or greater."
But if one enters via the support tab and look for updates one would
find:
"Installation instructions for Linux Users
1. Download "6_2_03i_lin.tar.gz" from:
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_sw_updates_home.jsp
2. Untar the downloaded file into an empty "staging" directory."
So only Windows is supported but there is a Linux update that's the same
generation as the latest 6.2 Windows update. And there doesn't seem to
be any base 6.2 system for Linux to which the service pack can be
applied. Makes perfect sense to me... arrggggg
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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Brian Davis
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Bob wrote:
I'd also like to see a version with a larger (3s400) device;
even if Xilinx doesn't offer one, I'd expect that Digilent
would once they start selling them directly.
The board's one major shortcoming, shared with most low cost
boards, is the poor signal layout of the expansion headers:
36 I/O's, one ground.
It would add virtually nothing to the cost of these boards to
show a little respect for the sub-ns edge rates found on modern
CMOS devices, and place a ground pin every few I/O pins.
The pinout probably was picked to match that of the the older
Digilent boards; however, it looks like there's enough room on the
layout to add a third row of ground pins so the end user could snip
off the pre-stuffed two row headers and use a three row header instead.
An I/O connector with diff. pair routing and provision for VRP/VRN
resistors and VREF bank pins would also be handy.
Maybe on the RevB layout after they sell out of these
Brian
large x32 SRAM, download cable.
I'd also like to see a version with a larger (3s400) device;
even if Xilinx doesn't offer one, I'd expect that Digilent
would once they start selling them directly.
The board's one major shortcoming, shared with most low cost
boards, is the poor signal layout of the expansion headers:
36 I/O's, one ground.
It would add virtually nothing to the cost of these boards to
show a little respect for the sub-ns edge rates found on modern
CMOS devices, and place a ground pin every few I/O pins.
The pinout probably was picked to match that of the the older
Digilent boards; however, it looks like there's enough room on the
layout to add a third row of ground pins so the end user could snip
off the pre-stuffed two row headers and use a three row header instead.
An I/O connector with diff. pair routing and provision for VRP/VRN
resistors and VREF bank pins would also be handy.
Maybe on the RevB layout after they sell out of these
Brian
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Ray Andraka <ray@andraka.com> wrote in message news:<40F8331A.FDE27929@andraka.com>...
I have been in the business of 30 years and this is the most
unresponsive vendor I have ever run into.
Use them at your own risk!
Take my word for it.
I have been in the business of 30 years and this is the most
unresponsive vendor I have ever run into.
Use them at your own risk!