Xilinx $99 Spartan-3 kit

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Leon Heller

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Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.

Leon
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That's because $99 / 1.81 = Ł55.
Cheers, Syms.
"Leon Heller" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in
stock.

Leon
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Leon Heller, G1HSM
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
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The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically anywhere
on this planet. Payment is by credit card so you receive the exchange rate
offered by your bank. However, shipping and local taxes do apply.

Any difference charged by your local distributor is likely import duties,
taxes, and fees charged by the applicable governing body (pesky
governments).
---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3
---------------------------------
Spartan-3: Make it Your ASIC



"Symon" <symon_brewer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That's because $99 / 1.81 = Ł55.
Cheers, Syms.
"Leon Heller" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price
from
Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in
stock.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
Click to expand...
 
Just wonder - Is there any chance the same board will be loaded
with a bigger chip ?

lukasz



Steven K. Knapp wrote:
The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically anywhere
on this planet. Payment is by credit card so you receive the exchange rate
offered by your bank. However, shipping and local taxes do apply.

Any difference charged by your local distributor is likely import duties,
taxes, and fees charged by the applicable governing body (pesky
governments).
---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3
---------------------------------
Spartan-3: Make it Your ASIC



"Symon" <symon_brewer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2kg8l9F1v8isU1@uni-berlin.de...

That's because $99 / 1.81 = Ł55.
Cheers, Syms.
"Leon Heller" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price

from

Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in

stock.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
Click to expand...
 
Steven K. Knapp wrote:
The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically
anywhere on this planet.
Click to expand...
Alightly off-topic, but it would be really really helpful if
the online store could move into the 20th century and start
selling FPGAs. No need to stock all speed grades or compete
on price.

And, as I've said before, if X management don't want to handle
this, subcontract it to Amazon or DigiKey or whoever. Just make
it possible for designers to order prototype quantities without
going through the distributor tarpit - it would help your overall
business.
 
I see the device used is a XC3S200-4FT256. You can get XC3S400 and XC3S1000
parts in that package according to my datasheet. I bet it'll cost more than
70 quid though!!
Cheers, Syms.
"Lukasz Salwinski" <lukasz@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote in message
news:cbuuto$dd5$1@daisy.noc.ucla.edu...
Just wonder - Is there any chance the same board will be loaded
with a bigger chip ?

lukasz
Click to expand...
 
In article <40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
Leon Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:
Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.
Click to expand...
Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
board.

Phil
 
"Phil Tomson" <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote in message
[snip]
Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
board.
Click to expand...
Good point. The kit comes complete with both the Xilinx ISE Foundation 6.2i
Foundation and the ISE 6.2i WebPack CD-ROMs.

ISE Foundation 6.2i Evaluation
http://www.xilinx.com/ise_eval/index.htm

ISE WebPACK 6.2i
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=PRODUCTS&sSecondaryNavPick=Design+Tools&key=DS-ISE-WEBPACK

The software provided runs on Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows XP only.

However, the full-up Xilinx ISE Foundation software has limited support for
Linux (RedHat 8.0).
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=PRODUCTS&sSecondaryNavPick=Design+Tools&key=DS-ISE-FND

---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3
---------------------------------
Spartan-3: Make it Your ASIC
 
In article <2kgekuF25eavU1@uni-berlin.de>,
Symon <symon_brewer@hotmail.com> wrote:

I see the device used is a XC3S200-4FT256. You can get XC3S400 and
XC3S1000 parts in that package according to my datasheet. I bet
it'll cost more than 70 quid though!!
Click to expand...
"A million gates for twelve dollars", remember :)

[and a magazine I looked at today claimed the 70kLUT Cyclone II is
$70 in those asymptotic quantities. Sadly, I doubt there are 10^5
FPGA hobbyists on the planet ...]

Tom
 
In article <cbv7cv$4sj$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>,
Uwe Bonnes <bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
: In article <40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
: Leon Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
: >Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.
:

: Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
: at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
: board.

It's not impossible to run ISE under a recent Wine. Programming with impact
however is not possible.
Click to expand...
Any idea what keeps it from running under Wine?

Are you saying that ISE doesn't run under Wine, but programming does work?

Phil
 
In article <cbv8of$q41@cliff.xsj.xilinx.com>,
Steven K. Knapp <steve.knappNO#SPAM@xilinx.com> wrote:
"Phil Tomson" <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote in message
[snip]

Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
board.

Good point. The kit comes complete with both the Xilinx ISE Foundation 6.2i
Foundation and the ISE 6.2i WebPack CD-ROMs.

ISE Foundation 6.2i Evaluation
http://www.xilinx.com/ise_eval/index.htm

ISE WebPACK 6.2i
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=PRODUCTS&sSecondaryNavPick=Design+Tools&key=DS-ISE-WEBPACK

The software provided runs on Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows XP only.

However, the full-up Xilinx ISE Foundation software has limited support for
Linux (RedHat 8.0).
http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/designResources/ip_product_details.jsp?sGlobalNavPick=PRODUCTS&sSecondaryNavPick=Design+Tools&key=DS-ISE-FND

---------------------------------
Steven K. Knapp
Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc.
General Products Division
Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs
http://www.xilinx.com/spartan3
---------------------------------
Spartan-3: Make it Your ASIC
Click to expand...
Since you work at Xilinx... Any idea if a Linux version will become
available? This looks like a cool kit, but I really
don't want to have to get Windows to use it.

If not, then perhaps it could be fixed to run under Wine? (another post
said it currently doesn't run under Wine)

Phil
 
Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
: In article <40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
: Leon Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
: >Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.
: >

: Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
: at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
: board.

It's not impossible to run ISE under a recent Wine. Programming with impact
however not possible.

Bye
--
Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de

Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
 
Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
: In article <40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
: Leon Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
: >Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.
: >

: Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
: at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
: board.

It's not impossible to run ISE under a recent Wine. Programming with impact
however is not possible.

Bye
--
Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de

Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
 
Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
: In article <cbv7cv$4sj$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>,
: Uwe Bonnes <bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
: >Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
: >: In article <40e2e1f9$0$291$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>,
: >: Leon Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >: >Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
: >: >Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.
: >: >
: >
: >: Anyone know if the software that comes with it works on Linux? I looked
: >: at the site, but didn't see any info on supported platforms for this
: >: board.
: >
: >It's not impossible to run ISE under a recent Wine. Programming with impact
: >however is not possible.
: >

: Any idea what keeps it from running under Wine?

: Are you saying that ISE doesn't run under Wine, but programming does work?

ISE runs to great extends. Impact can't be used, as for the parallel port
access, the external WinDriver interface is used. WinDriver is a windows
kernel driver and can be run on Wine.

Bye
--
Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de

Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
 
Lukasz Salwinski <lukasz@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote in message news:<cbuuto$dd5$1@daisy.noc.ucla.edu>...
Just wonder - Is there any chance the same board will be loaded
with a bigger chip ?
Click to expand...
Forgive the me too aspect of this post, but I'd like to see a bigger
device too! (I guess you'll only make it if lots of people ask for
it.)

Cheers,
JonB
 
"Tim" <tim@rockylogic.com.nooospam.com> wrote in message
news:cbv012$fhr$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
Steven K. Knapp wrote:
The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically
anywhere on this planet.

Alightly off-topic, but it would be really really helpful if
the online store could move into the 20th century and start
selling FPGAs. No need to stock all speed grades or compete
on price.

And, as I've said before, if X management don't want to handle
this, subcontract it to Amazon or DigiKey or whoever. Just make
it possible for designers to order prototype quantities without
going through the distributor tarpit - it would help your overall
business.
Click to expand...
Try www.nuhorizons.com for small quantities.

-- Georgi
 
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:53:28 +0100, "Leon Heller"
<leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:

Xilinx has a Spartan-3 kit selling for $99, via their web site. Price from
Insight (UK) will be 70 GBP, but they don't know when they will be in stock.

Leon
Click to expand...
I ordered one of these yesterday, received it today. All in all, it's
a nice little testing platform.

One thing to note: my board came with ES silicon. I downloaded the
errata from the Xilinx site, and saw nothing I was particularly
concerned with: a couple of minor DCM bugs and a few other piddly
things (yet other bugs have been promoted to features, and are
described in the data sheet). If you plan to buy the board, you may
want to take a look at the ES errata sheet first.

Bob Perlman
Cambrian Design Works
 
"Georgi Beloev" <gbH8SPAM@beloev.net> wrote in message news:<YIKdnU5Pla_Br3nd4p2dnA@megapath.net>...
"Tim" <tim@rockylogic.com.nooospam.com> wrote in message
news:cbv012$fhr$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
Steven K. Knapp wrote:
The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically
anywhere on this planet.

Alightly off-topic, but it would be really really helpful if
the online store could move into the 20th century and start
selling FPGAs. No need to stock all speed grades or compete
on price.

And, as I've said before, if X management don't want to handle
this, subcontract it to Amazon or DigiKey or whoever. Just make
it possible for designers to order prototype quantities without
going through the distributor tarpit - it would help your overall
business.

Try www.nuhorizons.com for small quantities.

-- Georgi
Click to expand...
I would avoid Nu Horizons at all costs.
 
"Georgi Beloev" <gbH8SPAM@beloev.net> wrote in message news:<YIKdnU5Pla_Br3nd4p2dnA@megapath.net>...
"Tim" <tim@rockylogic.com.nooospam.com> wrote in message
news:cbv012$fhr$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
Steven K. Knapp wrote:
The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically
anywhere on this planet.

Alightly off-topic, but it would be really really helpful if
the online store could move into the 20th century and start
selling FPGAs. No need to stock all speed grades or compete
on price.

And, as I've said before, if X management don't want to handle
this, subcontract it to Amazon or DigiKey or whoever. Just make
it possible for designers to order prototype quantities without
going through the distributor tarpit - it would help your overall
business.

Try www.nuhorizons.com for small quantities.

-- Georgi
Click to expand...
I would avoid Nu Horizons at all costs.
 
"Georgi Beloev" <gbH8SPAM@beloev.net> wrote in message news:<YIKdnU5Pla_Br3nd4p2dnA@megapath.net>...
"Tim" <tim@rockylogic.com.nooospam.com> wrote in message
news:cbv012$fhr$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
Steven K. Knapp wrote:
The Xilinx online store has stock will ship boards to practically
anywhere on this planet.

Alightly off-topic, but it would be really really helpful if
the online store could move into the 20th century and start
selling FPGAs. No need to stock all speed grades or compete
on price.

And, as I've said before, if X management don't want to handle
this, subcontract it to Amazon or DigiKey or whoever. Just make
it possible for designers to order prototype quantities without
going through the distributor tarpit - it would help your overall
business.

Try www.nuhorizons.com for small quantities.

-- Georgi
Click to expand...
I would avoid Nu Horizons at all costs.
 
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