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Sergey Kubushyn
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John Miles, KE5FX <jmiles@gmail.com> wrote:
My Midmark Progeny VetPro DC is settable from something like 50 to 70kV
(don't remember exact numbers):
https://www.midmark.com/docs/librariesprovider2/pdfs/00-02-1601.pdf
It came with their Size 1 Vision DX 600 Series Sensor:
https://www.midmark.com/docs/librariesprovider2/pdfs/00-02-1594.pdf
and full set of of their software:
https://www.midmark.com/docs/librariesprovider2/pdfs/00-02-1605.pdf
There was much more on included USB stick:
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[ksi@maverick PROGENY_VP]$ ls -l
total 8056
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 amd64
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 29 2018 CalFiles
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 ConfigFiles
drwxr-xr-x 6 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 DotNetFX35
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 150 Oct 9 2017 DriveInfo-V.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 176105 Dec 8 2016 FireCRDriver.exe
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Nov 1 2017 Firmware
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 i386
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 16848 Dec 8 2016 InstallDriver.exe
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 215 Dec 8 2016 InstallVetProDR.bat
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 Plug-ins
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Nov 12 2015 ProductUpdate
drwxr-xr-x 3 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 ProgenyImaging
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 7484928 Mar 20 2017 ProgenyInstaller.exe
drwxr-xr-x 5 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 SDK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 468992 Mar 20 2017 setup.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 230 Oct 9 2017 Setup.xml
drwxr-xr-x 7 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 sqlserver2014expr_x86_enu_sp1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 479 Dec 8 2016 UninstallVetProDR.bat
drwxr-xr-x 16 ksi ksi 4096 Nov 7 2017 'User Manuals'
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 31 2016 Utilities
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 4096 Mar 20 2017 Veterinary.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 11005 Dec 8 2016 vetprodr.cat
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 2446 Dec 8 2016 VetProDR.inf
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 WindowsInstaller3_1
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As I've just finished full testing of recently acquired Hamamatsu L9181-02
Microfocus Source that turned up to be 100% success, fully working in all
modes, went without errors through its 2-hour "warmup" (or "aging" as it's
been called in older models) cycle I will be probably putting my Midmark set
for sale really soon...
BTW, it took me something like 4 years to find a reasonably priced MFX
source and indeed it is pure luck... I went through purchase/return of 2
faulty L8121-01 MFX sources (both had their tubes mechanically damaged
inside so they lost vacuum and filled with oil) in the process and still
have the fully working control box with cables for L8121-01 that will
probably also go for sale...
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On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 10:06:00 AM UTC-7, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think standard dental x-ray will be able to see bonding wire.
They are designed to see cavity without giving too much radiation.
You might have to increase intensity for higher resolution.
Interestingly enough, dental X-ray machines are not that wimpy. 60 kVp
at (IIRC) 8 mA is what I usually see on the panel at my dentist's office.
Even at 1% efficiency they are shooting several watts at me.
For PCB inspection, the power of the X-ray source is a *long* way down on
the list of important considerations. Given the right setup, 35 kVp at
300 uA is quite usable for electronic inspection on 6- and 8-layer PCBs,
down to and including the bond-wire level. The sensor quality and
exposure time, along with the tube's focus spot size, are what make the
difference.
This thread is what got me into this stuff:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/faxitron-mx-20-x-ray-system-teardown/
It really sucks that it's so hard to get your hands on a usable microfocus
X-ray system. These things are about as hazardous as the color TVs that
most of us grew up sitting in front of... and that's assuming you've jimmied
the door interlock. Just about everybody here would sell a kidney or two
for an MX-20 if they knew what they were missing.
As it stands, getting a good deal on a good machine is pure luck. And then
you get to build a digitizer and write a bunch of software, unless you were
*really* lucky and got one that was (probably illegally) sold with its
original PC full of patient records. Grumble...
Dental sensors are better than nothing, and at least some of the Gendex
units have been reverse-engineered for use with free software
at https://github.com/JohnDMcMaster/gxs700 . Not sure what kind of results
can be expected without a microfocus tube, though. It's possible that a
Gendex sensor and an older film-based Faxitron would be a good combination.
My Midmark Progeny VetPro DC is settable from something like 50 to 70kV
(don't remember exact numbers):
https://www.midmark.com/docs/librariesprovider2/pdfs/00-02-1601.pdf
It came with their Size 1 Vision DX 600 Series Sensor:
https://www.midmark.com/docs/librariesprovider2/pdfs/00-02-1594.pdf
and full set of of their software:
https://www.midmark.com/docs/librariesprovider2/pdfs/00-02-1605.pdf
There was much more on included USB stick:
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[ksi@maverick PROGENY_VP]$ ls -l
total 8056
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 amd64
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 29 2018 CalFiles
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 ConfigFiles
drwxr-xr-x 6 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 DotNetFX35
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 150 Oct 9 2017 DriveInfo-V.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 176105 Dec 8 2016 FireCRDriver.exe
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Nov 1 2017 Firmware
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 i386
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 16848 Dec 8 2016 InstallDriver.exe
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 215 Dec 8 2016 InstallVetProDR.bat
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 Plug-ins
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Nov 12 2015 ProductUpdate
drwxr-xr-x 3 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 ProgenyImaging
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 7484928 Mar 20 2017 ProgenyInstaller.exe
drwxr-xr-x 5 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 SDK
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 468992 Mar 20 2017 setup.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 230 Oct 9 2017 Setup.xml
drwxr-xr-x 7 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 sqlserver2014expr_x86_enu_sp1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 ksi ksi 479 Dec 8 2016 UninstallVetProDR.bat
drwxr-xr-x 16 ksi ksi 4096 Nov 7 2017 'User Manuals'
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 31 2016 Utilities
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 4096 Mar 20 2017 Veterinary.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 11005 Dec 8 2016 vetprodr.cat
-rw-r--r-- 1 ksi ksi 2446 Dec 8 2016 VetProDR.inf
drwxr-xr-x 2 ksi ksi 4096 Oct 24 2017 WindowsInstaller3_1
=== Cut ===
As I've just finished full testing of recently acquired Hamamatsu L9181-02
Microfocus Source that turned up to be 100% success, fully working in all
modes, went without errors through its 2-hour "warmup" (or "aging" as it's
been called in older models) cycle I will be probably putting my Midmark set
for sale really soon...
BTW, it took me something like 4 years to find a reasonably priced MFX
source and indeed it is pure luck... I went through purchase/return of 2
faulty L8121-01 MFX sources (both had their tubes mechanically damaged
inside so they lost vacuum and filled with oil) in the process and still
have the fully working control box with cables for L8121-01 that will
probably also go for sale...
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* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
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