Would you file an FTC or FCC complaint for Android T-Mobile

On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:17:58 +0100, "Chris Uppal"
<chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> wrote:

Kerry Blethan wrote:

Anyone can buy a great $700 phone but it takes an expert Android user
to buy a good $200 phone.

Not really. You just have to do some research. Lots of people by
great cars for $20,000 without having to be an automotive engineer or
even a mechanic.

Excellent summary!

-- chris

 

[Arfa Daily]

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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:04:32 +0000 (UTC), Kerry Blethan
KerryBlethan@is.invalid> wrote:

Paul Miner wrote:

They might have sold fewer, granted, but I'd venture to guess that most
people don't care, or they don't know that they don't care.

Kids will care when they can't download a game to the phone.

Poor babies!

That's an odd thing to say. Kids are major customers for these phones, and
for an awful lot of them, the fact of it being a phone is only one small
consideration. A 'smart'-phone is better defined as a hand-held computer,
and that is how they are sold, so kids will rightly expect to be able to
download and use gaming apps, in much the same way as I expect to be able to
download and use apps that satisfy my requirements ...

Arfa

 

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 01:48:16 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

nobody@nada.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:04:32 +0000 (UTC), Kerry Blethan
KerryBlethan@is.invalid> wrote:

Paul Miner wrote:

They might have sold fewer, granted, but I'd venture to guess that most
people don't care, or they don't know that they don't care.

Kids will care when they can't download a game to the phone.

Poor babies!


That's an odd thing to say. Kids are major customers for these phones, and
for an awful lot of them, the fact of it being a phone is only one small
consideration. A 'smart'-phone is better defined as a hand-held computer,
and that is how they are sold, so kids will rightly expect to be able to
download and use gaming apps, in much the same way as I expect to be able to
download and use apps that satisfy my requirements ...

Arfa

Kids are major customers for anything that keeps their attention so
parents don't have to deal with them. Kids are not entitled to
smartphones and games on them. Kids need more than access to computers
and games at all times. Putting a kid on a computer to play is not
parenting. It's not hard to see why the product of our education
system is waining.

 

[tlvp]

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

 

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 02:17:44 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

And the system includes the parents, the kids, and the schools and
teachers. The land of opportunity has morphed into the land of
entitlement.

 

[TJ]

On 04/23/2014 02:17 AM, tlvp wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

One could possess the best education possible, yet still be
fumble-fingered and careless. In my rather limited experience, the
higher the education, the more overconfident, and the more prone to
carelessness. And, the less forgiving of carelessness in others.

TJ

 

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:29:45 -0400, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:

On 04/23/2014 02:17 AM, tlvp wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

One could possess the best education possible, yet still be
fumble-fingered and careless. In my rather limited experience, the
higher the education, the more overconfident, and the more prone to
carelessness. And, the less forgiving of carelessness in others.

TJ

People can be "fumble-fingered and careless" regardlesst of their
level of education. Unless you have some real evidence to back up your
claim that "the higher the education, the more overconfident, and the
more prone to carelessness". You did say "In my rather limited
experience", so perhaps you should get more education and see if it
makes you "fumble-fingered and careless".

But I will still support improving the education level in the country
and take the risk of you unbased claims.

 

[TJ]

On 04/23/2014 04:32 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:29:45 -0400, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:

On 04/23/2014 02:17 AM, tlvp wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

One could possess the best education possible, yet still be
fumble-fingered and careless. In my rather limited experience, the
higher the education, the more overconfident, and the more prone to
carelessness. And, the less forgiving of carelessness in others.

TJ

People can be "fumble-fingered and careless" regardlesst of their
level of education. Unless you have some real evidence to back up your
claim that "the higher the education, the more overconfident, and the
more prone to carelessness". You did say "In my rather limited
experience", so perhaps you should get more education and see if it
makes you "fumble-fingered and careless".

But I will still support improving the education level in the country
and take the risk of you unbased claims.

My post wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at the person who pointed out
your obvious typos, implying that they negated your point.

There are many kinds of education. I have a BSEE, so I am not entirely
uneducated in the sense that you mean in your posts. I am also the son
and grandson of men who, while they never completed high school, were
some of the smartest people that I've ever known - in the ways that
really matter.

From time to time I find myself fumble-fingered when it comes to
typing, and careless when in a hurry or when my mind is on something
else. I am, after all, human - a point my father and grandfather took
great pains to teach me.

Most of those I've met who can put strings of letters after their names
won't readily admit to that kind of thing, even though I've seen them
make as many or more mistakes than I do.

TJ

 

[Arfa Daily]

"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

Arfa

 

[tlvp]

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 01:13:21 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 02:17:44 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

And ...

.... and you *fail* to see it should be *waning* ? Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

 

[tlvp]

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:29:45 -0400, TJ wrote:

> And, the less forgiving of carelessness in others.

Ah, I should have tried *bolding* my smiley -- so: ** . Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

 

[tlvp]

On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:08:44 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp



Arfa

Ah, glad there are still folks who appreciate light-hearted irony .

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

 

[dave]

On 04/22/2014 11:17 PM, tlvp wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

The "kids" are evolving. Their brains are being organized around a
collective consciousness and this is a mass communications religious
Renaissance based on common sense in the most literal sense of the term.
These guys won't get fooled all the time.

"The kids are alright" -Peter Townshend

 

[dave]

On 04/23/2014 01:13 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 02:17:44 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

And the system includes the parents, the kids, and the schools and
teachers. The land of opportunity has morphed into the land of
entitlement.

The Land of Whiny Billionaires is more like it.

 

[dave]

On 04/23/2014 03:16 PM, TJ wrote:

On 04/23/2014 04:32 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:29:45 -0400, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:

On 04/23/2014 02:17 AM, tlvp wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:14:53 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

... why the product of our education
system is waining.

Yup. The product "is waining" ... 'cuz the system is *faling* .

Cheers, -- tlvp

One could possess the best education possible, yet still be
fumble-fingered and careless. In my rather limited experience, the
higher the education, the more overconfident, and the more prone to
carelessness. And, the less forgiving of carelessness in others.

TJ

People can be "fumble-fingered and careless" regardlesst of their
level of education. Unless you have some real evidence to back up your
claim that "the higher the education, the more overconfident, and the
more prone to carelessness". You did say "In my rather limited
experience", so perhaps you should get more education and see if it
makes you "fumble-fingered and careless".

But I will still support improving the education level in the country
and take the risk of you unbased claims.


My post wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at the person who pointed out
your obvious typos, implying that they negated your point.

There are many kinds of education. I have a BSEE, so I am not entirely
uneducated in the sense that you mean in your posts. I am also the son
and grandson of men who, while they never completed high school, were
some of the smartest people that I've ever known - in the ways that
really matter.

From time to time I find myself fumble-fingered when it comes to
typing, and careless when in a hurry or when my mind is on something
else. I am, after all, human - a point my father and grandfather took
great pains to teach me.

Most of those I've met who can put strings of letters after their names
won't readily admit to that kind of thing, even though I've seen them
make as many or more mistakes than I do.

TJ

I've heard that your typical BSEE can't draw two 3 phase transformers
connected in Delta Wye configuration. They learn a lot of DC and network
theory and junk like that, but couldn't connect a conveyor belt to the
mains to save their lives. Is this true?

 

[TJ]

On 04/24/2014 11:11 AM, dave wrote:

I've heard that your typical BSEE can't draw two 3 phase transformers
connected in Delta Wye configuration. They learn a lot of DC and network
theory and junk like that, but couldn't connect a conveyor belt to the
mains to save their lives. Is this true?

I wouldn't know. I don't have much to do with "typical" BSEEs. Note that
I didn't say my occupation is as an EE. My degree is nearly 45 years
old, but it is still a degree, and it brands me as having been educated,
often much to my dismay.

I run the family farm, third generation of my family to do so. I've
never done any 3 phase work, nor do I pretend to be qualified in that
area. My work as an engineer ran more toward using computers. However, I
have been known to repair a motor for a hay elevator before now, have
rebuilt several tractor alternators and starter motors. My formal
education gave me a base to learn those skills, among others, but I went
from that base on my own.

The main thing schooling taught me was how to learn.

TJ

 

[M.L.]

I've heard that your typical BSEE can't draw two 3 phase transformers
connected in Delta Wye configuration. They learn a lot of DC and network
theory and junk like that, but couldn't connect a conveyor belt to the
mains to save their lives. Is this true?

Probably. The BSEE curriculum is divided into specialties, with the
majority focusing on computer architecture, not electrical network
architecture. It's been that way for decades now. Your expectation is
sort of like asking a cardiologist to perform brain surgery.