Would resistors short itself?

[John Fields]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:30:33 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/08/2013 1:17 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
"Mr." Man-wai Chang is representative of what I see as an alarming
increase in these groups... "punks"... ignorant as a stump, but
pompously considering themselves as superior beings.

I represented nobody but myself!

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And, as a consequence of not being able to discern yourself as being
as ignorant as a stump, fancy yourself to be more.
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If someone can locate "Mr." Man-wai Chang's kindergarten they should
give him a good spanking >:-}

Did you enjoy spanking others while being a kid?

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Red herring/Straw man.

Because of your shenanigans, you've now come under scrutiny and,
instead of casting aspersions on others in a vain attempt to extricate
yourself from the maw, are likely to be stripped down to reveal your
contemptible core.

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JF

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:32:35 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/08/2013 2:49 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
I have no intention of bullying you or anyone else. You have been given
much help but you persist in asking the same thing over and over about
components shorting. What's your definition of a shorted component?

What's wrong about looking at a problem from different perspectives? I
could discover something new doing so, notably discrepancies.

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So far, because of your own discrepancies, you haven't demonstrated
that proficiency.

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JF

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:34:06 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/08/2013 4:20 AM, John Fields wrote:
I counted 3 more trolls here.
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Geez, I thought there was only one...
Wow, all of a sudden you're calling the shots?

I didn't. And I knew that once you 3+1 called the shots, you 3+1 would
not leave me alone, not even after I left/died.

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Go away and I'm sure you'll find how wrong you are.

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JF

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 18:35:01 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

What's wrong about looking at a problem from different perspectives?

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Nothing.
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I could discover something new doing so, notably discrepancies.

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Then do so, instead of just intimating capability which doesn't seem
to exist.

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JF

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 21:58:39 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/08/2013 7:50 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com
** This dude is a read hot wanker.
His fake ID reminds me of a most famous Chinese writer, " Ou Flung Dung ".
Wrote the history the Chinese Revolution .............

Now we got 3+1+1?

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All against you.

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JF

 

[John Fields]

On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 22:17:48 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/08/2013 10:10 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
** My god, now the slanty eyed Chink is a maths genius too.
Ever hear about the dumb blonde who thought "ping pong" was a smelly
Chinaman ?
That joke is just as old as the earlier one -
like 100 years plus.

You are wasting time typing things I would not bother to read.

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And, yet, you did, which brands you a liar.
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Save yourself, find a gun to shoot me!

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You're no risk, so letting you live is apropos.

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JF

 

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 6/08/2013 6:41 AM, John Fields wrote:

So far, because of your own discrepancies, you haven't demonstrated
that proficiency.

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 6/08/2013 7:25 AM, John Fields wrote:

And, yet, you did, which brands you a liar.
You're no risk, so letting you live is apropos.

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jfsdfsdjlsad fjlksa





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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 6/08/2013 7:08 AM, John Fields wrote:

All against you.

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jfsdfsdjlsad fjlksa

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 6/08/2013 6:54 AM, John Fields wrote:

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Go away and I'm sure you'll find how wrong you are.

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jfsdfsdjlsad fjlksa



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[JW]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:46:58 +0800 "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in Message id:
<ktr1sd$71j$1@dont-email.me>:

On 6/08/2013 6:41 AM, John Fields wrote:
So far, because of your own discrepancies, you haven't demonstrated
that proficiency.


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jfsdfsdjlsad fjlksa

Gung'f na vzcebirzrag bire lbhe abezny bhgchg.

 

[Fred Abse]

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:27:22 -0400, JW wrote:

On Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:46:58 +0800 "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in Message id:
ktr1sd$71j$1@dont-email.me>:

On 6/08/2013 6:41 AM, John Fields wrote:
So far, because of your own discrepancies, you haven't demonstrated
that proficiency.


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fjlksa



Gung'f na vzcebirzrag bire lbhe abezny bhgchg.

EBGSYZNB!

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(R.D. Middlebrook)

 

[P E Schoen]

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote in message news:ktr1ut$71j$4@dont-email.me...

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What are you, 8 years old?

I know, don't feed the trolls...

+1

Paul

 

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 8/08/2013 11:33 AM, P E Schoen wrote:

What are you, 8 years old?
I know, don't feed the trolls...
+1

Let the hate claim down!

I have long forgotten my hate and my arrogant ...

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[P E Schoen]

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote in message news:ku071k$dof$2@dont-email.me...

On 8/08/2013 11:33 AM, P E Schoen wrote:
What are you, 8 years old?
I know, don't feed the trolls...
+1

Let the hate claim down!

I have long forgotten my hate and my arrogant ...

I don't hate you any more than I might hate a gnat. You are merely annoying,
and apparently do not have anything useful to add to the discussion,
especially when you have a childish "tantrum" and type gibberish when anyone
tries to determine what you are really seeking. Your behavior exactly
emulates that of a classic troll, apparently in an attempt to solicit
attention rather than engage in rational discussion.

If you have a legitimate need for information about a specific application
or concept, people will be glad to help. But so far you have only spouted
silly objections to sound advice, and appear to lack even basic technical
expertise in concepts such as ohm's law and fundamental characteristics of
LEDs. Your argument about saving money by eliminating a $0.001 resistor is
ridiculous to the extreme.

So, if you persist in your immature behavior, I will certainly not feed your
trolling, and you will need to satisfy your craving for attention elsewhere.

Paul

 

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 9/08/2013 4:07 AM, P E Schoen wrote:

If you have a legitimate need for information about a specific
application or concept, people will be glad to help. But so far you have
only spouted silly objections to sound advice, and appear to lack even
basic technical expertise in concepts such as ohm's law and fundamental
characteristics of LEDs. Your argument about saving money by eliminating
a $0.001 resistor is ridiculous to the extreme.
So, if you persist in your immature behavior, I will certainly not feed
your trolling, and you will need to satisfy your craving for attention
elsewhere.

My needs are simple. If that humiliated the pride of electronic
engineering here, I was surprised!

In fact, they were more like defending the "holy land" here, which was
not my interest.

I am going back to resistors and LEDs for my toys....

BTW, words like "mature" are commonly used in bullying and trolling.

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 9/08/2013 6:05 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

BTW, words like "mature" are commonly used in bullying and trolling.

Anyway many parents and managers use those words to scare kids.

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[Shaun]

In my four Years working at repairing industrial electronics and instrument
calibration; I did have a case where I found a shorted resistor. I
unsoldered it after measuring it a short and after removing it from the
circuit board it still measured a short. Very weird!

Shaun



"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:55:53 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

For my curiosity!

In my experience resistors fail open, not short. Usually what happens is
that some resistive material burns away, that forces the surrounding
material to carry more load which makes it hotter, and then the rest
burns away.

There may be some resistive material out there that leads to the resistor
failing short -- but it'd have to be a weird construction out of a weird
material.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

 

[Shaun]

"Phil Allison" wrote in message news:b63ivhF4me8U1@mid.individual.net...


"Michael Black"

If you apply too much voltage, the voltage could arc around the resistor.

** Not likely at all.

Nearly all resistors are spirals of material (metal, carbon or composites)
around a ceramic rod - so any breakover will be between adjacent turns in
the spriral. This will probably ruin the part but it will not short end to
end.

A series string of resistors breaks the voltage applied to EACH resistor
down by the number of resistors, making much higher voltages tolerable.


.... Phil


Phil,

I have seen high voltage, high resistance resistors flash over end to end in
the lab, I even cleaned them with pure alcohol and a cotton cloth, then let
them dry for a few hours. The reason I cleaned them was that that finger
prints - which are slightly conductive could cause a change in resistance on
some of the resistors. I have seen this in the old Beckman DMM meters, they
have a 22 Mohm resistor in them to give them the high input impeadance and
if it gets soiled or touched, it could change the readings, so I cleaned
them with a cotton swap and alcohol.

Shaun