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Scrim
Guest
This groups is so badly spammed I'm starting to give up on it. Why does
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
sci.electronics repair get so much and can this be fixed?
Scrim
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Adrian C
Guest
Scrim wrote:
featuring subjects and senders including words such as shoes, nike,
wholesale ...
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Adrian C
You need to install filters in your usenet program to drop threads
featuring subjects and senders including words such as shoes, nike,
wholesale ...
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Adrian C
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Rich Webb
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim" <nospam@nospam.nospam>
wrote:
aggressively before the feed gets to your client.
One approach is to install a local server on the same PC as your usenet
client. The server connects upstream, filters the traffic, and then
supplies your client application, typically through the loopback IP.
As a server it has access to the complete contents of every posting: all
header lines and the body text. That presents opportunities for
filtering that just are not possible when only a limited set of headers
are used.
See <http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/index.html> for some
examples.
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
wrote:
The only sure fix is to take control of your own news feed and filter it
aggressively before the feed gets to your client.
One approach is to install a local server on the same PC as your usenet
client. The server connects upstream, filters the traffic, and then
supplies your client application, typically through the loopback IP.
As a server it has access to the complete contents of every posting: all
header lines and the body text. That presents opportunities for
filtering that just are not possible when only a limited set of headers
are used.
See <http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/index.html> for some
examples.
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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TonyS
Guest
Scrim wrote:
only this group for me.
Anyway, I have a message filter now that looks for "cheap, wholesale, shoes,
handbags, retail, quality", you get the drift
Works so far. (in Thunderbird)
Still, it's a mystery. Some say google is the culprit, probably true.
They bought dejanews and the rest is history.
Tony
I've just been through this experience myself and am still wondering why it is
only this group for me.
Anyway, I have a message filter now that looks for "cheap, wholesale, shoes,
handbags, retail, quality", you get the drift
Works so far. (in Thunderbird)
Still, it's a mystery. Some say google is the culprit, probably true.
They bought dejanews and the rest is history.
Tony
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Meat Plow
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:28:02 -0000, "Scrim"
<nospam@nospam.nospam>wrote:
yourself.
<nospam@nospam.nospam>wrote:
I guess Virgin doesn't filter it out for you so you'll have to do it
yourself.
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Ron
Guest
Meat Plow wrote:
messages from the following
@yeah.net
@live.cn - in fact any .cn
@126.com
@163.com
and all @.gmail
(You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small
price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.)
You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you
inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually.
When ever you get spam, add the address to the list.
Ron
Just get a decent newsreader, I use Thunderbird. Set filters to junk all
messages from the following
@yeah.net
@live.cn - in fact any .cn
@126.com
@163.com
and all @.gmail
(You might miss a few genuine posts by blocking gmail, but it`a small
price to pay. Anyone serious tends to not use gmail/hotmail/yahoo etc.)
You can check the filter logs from time to time and any posters you
inadvertently filtered out, you can add back in individually.
When ever you get spam, add the address to the list.
Ron
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:45:00 +0000, Ron <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com>
wrote:
it be different than the rest?
wrote:
to get occassional spam, but this group gets 10 times more. Why would
it be different than the rest?
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Rich Webb
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:04:01 -0400, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore
groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days
since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as
sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some
set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them.
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
Spammers can check GoogleGroups for groups with high activity in
particular areas. Go to groups.google.com and start with "explore
groups." Google does a nice job of sorting groups by activity (days
since last post), messages per month, and number of users as well as
sorting by topic, language, etc. So, I'd guess that there may be some
set of characteristics of s.e.r that attract them.
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Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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Jeff Liebermann
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:48:30 -0400, Rich Webb
<bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage
of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The
more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get?
More pigeons).
Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm
also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about
10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I
just hit the <del> key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I
just add it to the built in spam filter.
However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman
and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a
problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then
start at the top of this list:
<http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso>
Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your
way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others
will get the clue.
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
<bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
Yep. They also check to see how many people actually click on the
inevitable URL included in the spam message. It's a tiny percentage
of the users, but that's where they allegedly make their money. The
more clicks, the more spam. (Feed the pigeons and what do you get?
More pigeons).
Looks like VirginMedia outsources their usenet news to Giganews. I'm
also using Giganews. After some minor keyword filtering, I get about
10 spam messages in this newsgroup per day. No big deal. In Agent, I
just hit the <del> key and they're gone. If they're repetitive, I
just add it to the built in spam filter.
However, if you REALLY want to get rid of the spam, just hire a hitman
and make a few spammers really disappear. If they're that bad a
problem, it should be worth the money. Take up a collection. Then
start at the top of this list:
<http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/index.lasso>
Note that the majority are in the USA. Start at the top and work your
way down. Eliminate a few of the top spammers and I'm sure the others
will get the clue.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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Ron
Guest
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
over here.
Ron
I watched The Sopranos once, I was very disappointed, hardly any singing
at all!
I'm not sure, but I don't think we are allowed to do that sort of thing
over here.
Ron
I watched The Sopranos once, I was very disappointed, hardly any singing
at all!
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Jeff Liebermann
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:59:38 +0000, Ron <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com>
wrote:
make it through a day without breaking at least one or two laws (other
than traffic violations).
<http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news7022.html>
<http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3552/need-a-hitman-illegal-aliens-available-for-hire-thank-ices-myers-torres-for-murder-of-detroit-couple/>
(plenty more). If spam is causing such a problem for ISP's,
individuals, companies, governments, etc, it should be fairly easy to
take up a collection and do what's necessary to "set and example". I'm
sure the judge will understand after his mailbox is filled with spam.
I'm not suggesting any new laws or massive enforcement efforts. Just a
high profile extermination of some of the major perpetrators. The
others will surely get the clue and find something else to trash.
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
wrote:
There's probably a law making just about everything illegal. I can't
make it through a day without breaking at least one or two laws (other
than traffic violations).
<http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news7022.html>
<http://www.debbieschlussel.com/3552/need-a-hitman-illegal-aliens-available-for-hire-thank-ices-myers-torres-for-murder-of-detroit-couple/>
(plenty more). If spam is causing such a problem for ISP's,
individuals, companies, governments, etc, it should be fairly easy to
take up a collection and do what's necessary to "set and example". I'm
sure the judge will understand after his mailbox is filled with spam.
I'm not suggesting any new laws or massive enforcement efforts. Just a
high profile extermination of some of the major perpetrators. The
others will surely get the clue and find something else to trash.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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Robert Macy
Guest
On Oct 28, 6:28 am, "Scrim" <nos...@nospam.nospam> wrote:
How do you read it?
I use google for access and read using Opera 9.64 on Win98
As a result, 70-80% of the postings show up.
I've been told to PAY for better access. Yeah, that makes sense. I
should pay for something when the ones gaining, the spammers, should
pay.
So, what to do?
There is another thread here that shows a java script to highlight the
spam so it's very easy to ignore
How do you gain access?
How do you read it?
I use google for access and read using Opera 9.64 on Win98
As a result, 70-80% of the postings show up.
I've been told to PAY for better access. Yeah, that makes sense. I
should pay for something when the ones gaining, the spammers, should
pay.
So, what to do?
There is another thread here that shows a java script to highlight the
spam so it's very easy to ignore
K
Ken Layton
Guest
I use Google to access, but I also use the free "Trollkiller" program
to filter out the spam and religious wackos.
http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html
There's also a free filter from holysmoke:
http://www.holysmoke.org/ggf/index.htm
to filter out the spam and religious wackos.
http://www.source9.com/trollkiller.html
There's also a free filter from holysmoke:
http://www.holysmoke.org/ggf/index.htm
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David Nebenzahl
Guest
On 10/28/2009 6:06 AM TonyS spake thus:
high levels of spam.
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Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
- harvested from Usenet
It's definitely not just this newsgroup; lots of others with similar
high levels of spam.
You've got that right. Google is the main culprit.
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Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
- harvested from Usenet
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GregS
Guest
In article <blpge5td2aqqrsijj6ndpetcgjo6ghs9f4@4ax.com>, Rich Webb <bbew.ar@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:
I have found high spam in little used groups.
Spammers also try to stay away from groups whose users give out
a lot of trash and spam back to the originators. They don't like
spam either.
I'm not talking about Google.
To tell the truth, I think 4th parties do the spamming and the company,
usually ONE company, the one in China, has little knowledge of anything.
greg
I highly disagree
I have found high spam in little used groups.
Spammers also try to stay away from groups whose users give out
a lot of trash and spam back to the originators. They don't like
spam either.
I'm not talking about Google.
To tell the truth, I think 4th parties do the spamming and the company,
usually ONE company, the one in China, has little knowledge of anything.
greg
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GregS
Guest
In article <p1tge55knc66maevt7kkvoip4q43u8ko01@4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
to the CONTACT point and send my regards.
If everybody who complains did this, there would be no spam from those
guys. Its mostly one company in China.
greg
I have clicked on it many times, and I go directly
to the CONTACT point and send my regards.
If everybody who complains did this, there would be no spam from those
guys. Its mostly one company in China.
greg
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Jerry Peters
Guest
Robert Macy <macy@california.com> wrote:
to do a pretty good job of eliminating spam.
Jerry
Eternal-september is free but it does require registration. They seem
to do a pretty good job of eliminating spam.
Jerry
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Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Someone killed Russia's top spammer a few years ago:
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=russian+spammer+killed&aq=1&oq=russian+spamm&aqi=g3>
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The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Someone killed Russia's top spammer a few years ago:
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=russian+spammer+killed&aq=1&oq=russian+spamm&aqi=g3>
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The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
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David Nebenzahl
Guest
On 10/28/2009 11:42 AM GregS spake thus:
Complaining like that will have *zero* effect. Spammers just don't give
a shit how many people like you they offend. All they care about is
reaching enough suckers to sell whatever it is they're selling.
It's also a worldwide phenomonon. China has no monopoly on spam.
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Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
- harvested from Usenet
Wrong.
Complaining like that will have *zero* effect. Spammers just don't give
a shit how many people like you they offend. All they care about is
reaching enough suckers to sell whatever it is they're selling.
It's also a worldwide phenomonon. China has no monopoly on spam.
--
Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?
- harvested from Usenet
J
Jeff Liebermann
Guest
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:12:20 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
The killing was allegedly robbery related, not a retaliation for
spamming:
<http://www.moscow-life.com/news/news/7-Russian_police_say_robbers_killed_spammer_Kushnir>
That was followed 2 years later by a hoax:
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/138383/reported_assassination_of_russian_spammer_a_hoax.html>
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
One down. A few more to go, maybe.
The killing was allegedly robbery related, not a retaliation for
spamming:
<http://www.moscow-life.com/news/news/7-Russian_police_say_robbers_killed_spammer_Kushnir>
That was followed 2 years later by a hoax:
<http://www.pcworld.com/article/138383/reported_assassination_of_russian_spammer_a_hoax.html>
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558