Why is the NYC metro area CV infection TEN TIMES worse?

[Flyguy]

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s Chinatowns are open for business!" just TWO MONTHS ago:

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

“It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson.

 

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was
hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came over from
Europe.

You stupid fuck.

 

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s Chinatowns are open for business!" just TWO MONTHS ago:

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

“It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson.

The New York City area has several times the population density of the
average US city. Over 2x that of San Francisco.

And they use a lot of jammed subways and trains, and work and live at
high density.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:n3mb9fd2bhct4b7nh9fnqkvgg0r3vtp67l@4ax.com:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was
hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s Chinatowns
are open for business!" just TWO MONTHS ago:

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasi
o-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-vis
it#/0

“It is important to support the Chinese community in New York
City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown,
Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are
afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts
and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is
no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop
as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson.

The New York City area has several times the population density of
the average US city. Over 2x that of San Francisco.

And they use a lot of jammed subways and trains, and work and live
at high density.

Yes, and if it came through 'Chinatown' like he says, there would
be a huge number of them infected over the rest of the city and it
would be traceable back to them, and that is not what happened.
FlyTurd is about as stupid as it gets.

I am pretty sure he trolled here before under another nym.

And before you go off on me about mine, each and every one was
easily identifiable as me the same poster as each had a common
element which was blatanly obvious.

 

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:40:27 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s Chinatowns are open for business!" just TWO MONTHS ago:

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

“It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson.

The New York City area has several times the population density of the
average US city. Over 2x that of San Francisco.

And they use a lot of jammed subways and trains, and work and live at
high density.

The Santa Clara virus did in fact come from China. The CDC, NIH and HHS are crawling all over the place investigating contacts and testing everyone that cooperates, mostly Chinese. And lo and behold, they're estimating the first appearance to be early December and maybe sooner. There was a direct and ongoing infusion of visitors/workers from the Wuhan epicenter itself.

The U.S. response is indicative of racism towards Asia. Places like Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore especially, are right next door. They are very familiar with nasty and lethal disease jumping from China across their borders all the time, and they know full the expense and trouble it can cause. They also knew exactly what to do with immediate cessation of all flights from China, mandatory quarantines, ample testing, phone based tracking applications, and nationwide lockdown. They didn't wait for anything to materialize, they hit the accelerator immediately.
Do you think the United Saps of the world would get a clue and at least partially follow their lead? No. They know so much. Now the idiots are facing an economic and public health calamity unprecedented in the history of this accident of a place.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:40:27 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s Chinatowns are open for business!" just TWO MONTHS ago:

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

“It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson.

The New York City area has several times the population density of the
average US city. Over 2x that of San Francisco.

And they use a lot of jammed subways and trains, and work and live at
high density.

The Santa Clara virus did in fact come from China. The CDC, NIH and HHS are crawling all over the place investigating contacts and testing everyone that cooperates, mostly Chinese. And lo and behold, they're estimating the first appearance to be early December and maybe sooner. There was a direct and ongoing infusion of visitors/workers from the Wuhan epicenter itself.

The local seeds of pandemics don't matter much, as the ignition
sources of forest fires don't matter much. If the distributed gain
mechanism is all pumped up, some source will exploit it.

The U.S. response is indicative of racism towards Asia. Places like Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore especially, are right next door. They are very familiar with nasty and lethal disease jumping from China across their borders all the time, and they know full the expense and trouble it can cause. They also knew exactly what to do with immediate cessation of all flights from China, mandatory quarantines, ample testing, phone based tracking applications, and nationwide lockdown. They didn't wait for anything to materialize, they hit the accelerator immediately.
Do you think the United Saps of the world would get a clue and at least partially follow their lead? No. They know so much. Now the idiots are facing an economic and public health calamity unprecedented in the history of this accident of a place.

Once the virus spread out from a small area in Wuhan, there was no way
to stop it. If it did start in a virus lab in China, it's not racist
to say so.

Maybe this is not unprecedented in US history, certainly not compared
to 1918 and probably not comparable to several other cold/flu seasons.
What's unprecedented is the reaction and the lockdowns.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard
--

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picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Ricky C]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:00:31 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

The U.S. response is indicative of racism towards Asia. Places like Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore especially, are right next door. They are very familiar with nasty and lethal disease jumping from China across their borders all the time, and they know full the expense and trouble it can cause. They also knew exactly what to do with immediate cessation of all flights from China, mandatory quarantines, ample testing, phone based tracking applications, and nationwide lockdown. They didn't wait for anything to materialize, they hit the accelerator immediately.
Do you think the United Saps of the world would get a clue and at least partially follow their lead? No. They know so much. Now the idiots are facing an economic and public health calamity unprecedented in the history of this accident of a place.

We seem to forget that the Swine Flu originated in the US.

--

Rick C.

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[Bill Martin]

On 4/14/20 11:59 AM, Ricky C wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:00:31 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

The U.S. response is indicative of racism towards Asia. Places like Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore especially, are right next door. They are very familiar with nasty and lethal disease jumping from China across their borders all the time, and they know full the expense and trouble it can cause. They also knew exactly what to do with immediate cessation of all flights from China, mandatory quarantines, ample testing, phone based tracking applications, and nationwide lockdown. They didn't wait for anything to materialize, they hit the accelerator immediately.
Do you think the United Saps of the world would get a clue and at least partially follow their lead? No. They know so much. Now the idiots are facing an economic and public health calamity unprecedented in the history of this accident of a place.

We seem to forget that the Swine Flu originated in the US.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/qa/where-did-the-2009-swine-flu-outbreak-originate

Not sure this link will work, but it says Veracruz, Mexico is point of
origin.

 

[Ricky C]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:04:32 PM UTC-4, Bill Martin wrote:

On 4/14/20 11:59 AM, Ricky C wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:00:31 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

The U.S. response is indicative of racism towards Asia. Places like Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore especially, are right next door. They are very familiar with nasty and lethal disease jumping from China across their borders all the time, and they know full the expense and trouble it can cause. They also knew exactly what to do with immediate cessation of all flights from China, mandatory quarantines, ample testing, phone based tracking applications, and nationwide lockdown. They didn't wait for anything to materialize, they hit the accelerator immediately.
Do you think the United Saps of the world would get a clue and at least partially follow their lead? No. They know so much. Now the idiots are facing an economic and public health calamity unprecedented in the history of this accident of a place.

We seem to forget that the Swine Flu originated in the US.


https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/qa/where-did-the-2009-swine-flu-outbreak-originate

Not sure this link will work, but it says Veracruz, Mexico is point of
origin.

Yes, one of the many outlying US districts.

Ok, then North America...

The point is not China or even Asia. People seem to think China is the only place pandemics originate. There are many varieties of viruses circulating in pigs that are all too ready to combine with viruses from other sources and become infectious to humans. While eating the meat of animals won't give you the disease, the methods of raising them provides a fertile bed for new disease creation.

We have known about this hazard for some time now and continue to provide the means for the creation of these diseases. Diseases know no national borders and we need to deal with the problems together. But that ain't going to happen is it?

--

Rick C.

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[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:37:58 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was
hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came over from
Europe.

You stupid fuck.

And you know this HOW?

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s Chinatowns are open for business!" just TWO MONTHS ago:

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

“It is important to support the Chinese community in New York City. Unfortunately many businesses and restaurants in Chinatown, Flushing and Sunset Park are suffering because some customers are afraid of the coronavirus. But those fears are not based on facts and science. The risk of infection to New Yorkers is low. There is no need to avoid public spaces. I urge everyone to dine and shop as usual,” said Speaker Corey Johnson.

The New York City area has several times the population density of the
average US city. Over 2x that of San Francisco.

And they use a lot of jammed subways and trains, and work and live at
high density.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

There delay in implementing social distancing and stay-at-home orders was catastrophic in a disease that was doubling every 2 days. Just a 6 day delay meant the thing grew by a factor of 8, which explains the order of magnitude.

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:37:58 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was
hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came over from
Europe.

You stupid fuck.

Translation: "You are a well-informed individual and I am the stupid, fucking idiot.

 

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:030c7633-e4bf-4149-9c6d-145d0864056d@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:37:58 AM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it
was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came
over from

Europe.

You stupid fuck.

And you know this HOW?

The whole world knows it. It is a FACT that the US was infected by
this virus MORE from europe than from China. Get it through your
thick skull, boy.

Put this in your google search field, you stupid fuck. The whole
page is filled with proofs. 68,000,000 hits:

new york outbreak viral source was europe

 

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:287216ac-9fdb-458e-bd7f-f44d795794a2@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:37:58 AM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it
was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came
over from

Europe.

You stupid fuck.

Translation: "You are a well-informed individual and I am the
stupid, fucking idiot.

If it came out of Chinatown, you retarded wank, they would have
shown a much higher infection instance compared with the rest of the
city and they do not. You are nothing more than a child stamping
your feet, desparate for someone to notice the shit dribbling from
both your diaper and your upper anus. The only thing noticeable
about you is your stench, child.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:32:56 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Once the virus spread out from a small area in Wuhan, there was no way
to stop it. If it did start in a virus lab in China, it's not racist
to say so.

Yet, in Wuhan, it WAS stopped. We can be sure it started in a bat, all else
is speculation (and unproductive, and uninteresting). The virus is
killing people, and isn't racist.

Maybe this is not unprecedented in US history, certainly not compared
to 1918 and probably not comparable to several other cold/flu seasons.
What's unprecedented is the reaction and the lockdowns.

There were lockdowns in the 1918-1920 epidemic, perhaps not by that
name. No 'other cold/flu season' was comparable in severity, except perhaps
that 1918-1920 pandemic. Three years isn't a "season".

Wuhan IS a precedent for any lockdown this month. "Unprecedented" is an easily
overused concept, and less important than preparedness to deal with a health
emergency.

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:49:57 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:287216ac-9fdb-458e-bd7f-f44d795794a2@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:37:58 AM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it
was hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came
over from

Europe.

You stupid fuck.

Translation: "You are a well-informed individual and I am the
stupid, fucking idiot.

If it came out of Chinatown, you retarded wank, they would have
shown a much higher infection instance compared with the rest of the
city and they do not. You are nothing more than a child stamping
your feet, desparate for someone to notice the shit dribbling from
both your diaper and your upper anus. The only thing noticeable
about you is your stench, child.

Hey you withering idiot child in need of having diapers changed, NYers OTHER THAN CHINESE visit Chinatown! It is a tourist trap!!

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:45:03 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:32:56 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Once the virus spread out from a small area in Wuhan, there was no way
to stop it. If it did start in a virus lab in China, it's not racist
to say so.

Yet, in Wuhan, it WAS stopped. We can be sure it started in a bat, all else
is speculation (and unproductive, and uninteresting). The virus is
killing people, and isn't racist.

Maybe this is not unprecedented in US history, certainly not compared
to 1918 and probably not comparable to several other cold/flu seasons.
What's unprecedented is the reaction and the lockdowns.

There were lockdowns in the 1918-1920 epidemic, perhaps not by that
name. No 'other cold/flu season' was comparable in severity, except perhaps
that 1918-1920 pandemic. Three years isn't a "season".

Wuhan IS a precedent for any lockdown this month. "Unprecedented" is an easily
overused concept, and less important than preparedness to deal with a health
emergency.

The virus, by most accounts, came from a specific kind of bat. This bat was not sold in the Wuhan wet markets, but WAS used in research at the Wuhan Virus Lab. Even the sub-rate intelligence of Slow Man should be able to figure out where COVID-19 originated.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:01:00 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 2:37:58 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7a432dff-c353-4d13-8c6f-bc3df6266950@googlegroups.com:

Why is the NYC metro area TEN TIMES worse than the next highest
metro area for CV infections? The answer is pretty simple: it was
hubris of mayor de Blasio who declared "New York City’s
Chinatowns are open for business!"

You are an idiot. The virus outbreak in New York City came over from
Europe.

You stupid fuck.

Translation: "You are a well-informed individual and I am the stupid, fucking idiot.

There may be hope for Flyguy yet. He is an idiot, but he does seem to be able to get the message that his contributions aren't going to be taken seriously.

Of course he may think that he is being sarcastic, rather than realistic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 4:32:56 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:40:27 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>

The Santa Clara virus did in fact come from China. The CDC, NIH and HHS are crawling all over the place investigating contacts and testing everyone that cooperates, mostly Chinese. And lo and behold, they're estimating the first appearance to be early December and maybe sooner. There was a direct and ongoing infusion of visitors/workers from the Wuhan epicenter itself.

The local seeds of pandemics don't matter much, as the ignition
sources of forest fires don't matter much. If the distributed gain
mechanism is all pumped up, some source will exploit it.

But it still makes sense to keep an eye likely ignition sources, so you can jump on the outbreak early and hard. The infections in December clearly didn't start the epidemic now raging in the US, and would seem to have been effectively contained.

> >The U.S. response is indicative of racism towards Asia.

Nonsense. SARS and various sorts of seasonal flu have come out of China before. There's nothing racist in recognising this fact.

Places like Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore especially, are right next door. They are very familiar with nasty and lethal disease jumping from China across their borders all the time, and they know full the expense and trouble it can cause. They also knew exactly what to do with immediate cessation of all flights from China, mandatory quarantines, ample testing, phone based tracking applications, and nationwide lockdown. They didn't wait for anything to materialize, they hit the accelerator immediately.
Do you think the United Saps of the world would get a clue and at least partially follow their lead? No. They know so much. Now the idiots are facing an economic and public health calamity unprecedented in the history of this accident of a place.

By your account they did jump on the first infections from China and contained them. The epidemic now raging in the US seems to be centred on New York and probably reflects secondary infections from Europe, which the US travel authorities seem to have ignored.

Once the virus spread out from a small area in Wuhan, there was no way
to stop it. If it did start in a virus lab in China, it's not racist
to say so.

Maybe this is not unprecedented in US history, certainly not compared
to 1918 and probably not comparable to several other cold/flu seasons.
What's unprecedented is the reaction and the lockdowns.

Covid-19 kills a lot more people than colds and most versions of seasonal flu.

The 1918 Spanish flu epidemic is a precedent, but it happened a century ago, and elicited much the same sort of reactions and lock-downs.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 2:24:18 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:45:03 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:32:56 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Once the virus spread out from a small area in Wuhan, there was no way
to stop it. If it did start in a virus lab in China, it's not racist
to say so.

Yet, in Wuhan, it WAS stopped. We can be sure it started in a bat, all else is speculation (and unproductive, and uninteresting). The virus is
killing people, and isn't racist.

Maybe this is not unprecedented in US history, certainly not compared
to 1918 and probably not comparable to several other cold/flu seasons..
What's unprecedented is the reaction and the lockdowns.

There were lockdowns in the 1918-1920 epidemic, perhaps not by that
name. No 'other cold/flu season' was comparable in severity, except perhaps that 1918-1920 pandemic. Three years isn't a "season".

Wuhan IS a precedent for any lockdown this month. "Unprecedented" is an easily overused concept, and less important than preparedness to deal with a health emergency.

The virus, by most accounts, came from a specific kind of bat. This bat was not sold in the Wuhan wet markets, but WAS used in research at the Wuhan Virus Lab. Even the sub-rate intelligence of Sloman should be able to figure out where COVID-19 originated.

The ancestor of the Covid-19 virus may still prefer to infect a specific kind of bat. It can't infect human beings.

Covid-19 has mutated away from this ancestral strain - it only shares 96.2% of the ancestral genome.

Precisely what other species of bats it's more immediate ancestors might have infected isn't clear, and some people have suggested that one of those intermediate ancestors might have infected pangolins as well.

Flyguy can't do joined up logic, but he's great at complaining that other people aren't clever enough to share his fatuous delusions.

We aren't all as gullible as he is, and he resents it when this pointed out..

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney