Who Will Stand This Mighty Destroyer of Pretend Engineers?

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:08:27 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

I think you've made your point Bret.

Which is?

It should be easy for any of
these guys to critique your proposal,

Why aren't they doing it?

Uh, oh, now they are going to start saying,

"Cite?"

"Huge!"

"Show your work."

particularly John Larkin who is
in the coffee processing business.

Then we can forget about him saving any quads, not that their was ever
any hope for him.
The only coffee I process is my morning latte.

John
 
Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?


Bret Cahill
 
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?


Bret Cahill

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

John
 
On Aug 1, 8:35�am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

Bret Cahill

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.
I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.


Bret Cahill
 
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

On Aug 1, 8:35?am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

Bret Cahill

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.


Bret Cahill
Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be sifted
by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally turned
into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell it to
people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the ideas out
there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

John
 
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:39:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

On Aug 1, 8:35?am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

Bret Cahill

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.


Bret Cahill



Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be sifted
by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally turned
into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell it to
people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the ideas out
there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'
---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPioSdlIERg&feature=related

JF
 
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:19:19 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:39:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

On Aug 1, 8:35?am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

Bret Cahill

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.


Bret Cahill



Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be sifted
by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally turned
into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell it to
people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the ideas out
there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'

If nobody buys your stuff, that's OK with you?

I love it when Pratt&Whitney or McDonald Douglas or Rolls Royce or the
Skunk Works picks my stuff over somebody else's. Is that pathetically
insecure?

How do you feel about atheletes who want to win an Olympic Gold, or
the Super Bowl? Are they pathetically insecure?

John
 
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:16:01 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill wrote

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.

Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be
sifted by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally
turned into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell it
to people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the
ideas out there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'

If nobody buys your stuff, that's OK with you?

Yep, if I know that its a good idea. I dont care whether anyone else agrees or not.

I love it when Pratt&Whitney or McDonald Douglas or Rolls Royce or the Skunk
Works picks my stuff over somebody else's. Is that pathetically insecure?

Yep, particularly when anyone with a clue realises that corporates
can pick things for completely silly bureaucratic reasons.

If you've got a clue, you know if your idea is any good.

You dont need someone to 'validate' that.

How do you feel about atheletes who want to win an Olympic Gold, or the Super Bowl?

I've always believed that all competitive sports were completely stupid.

Those who participate in them in spades.

Are they pathetically insecure?

Yep, in spades.
OK, you need please only yourself. I grew up playing a different game,
namely one where the value of a product is how well it works for
others. The advantage here is the wonderful variety of problems the
customers present, and the baseline of existing designs that beg to be
topped.

John
 
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:40:17 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill wrote

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.

Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be sifted
by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally turned
into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell
it to people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the
ideas out there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'

If nobody buys your stuff, that's OK with you?

Yep, if I know that its a good idea. I dont care whether anyone else agrees or not.

I love it when Pratt&Whitney or McDonald Douglas or Rolls Royce or the Skunk
Works picks my stuff over somebody else's. Is that pathetically insecure?

Yep, particularly when anyone with a clue realises that corporates
can pick things for completely silly bureaucratic reasons.

If you've got a clue, you know if your idea is any good.

You dont need someone to 'validate' that.

How do you feel about atheletes who want to win an Olympic Gold, or the Super Bowl?

I've always believed that all competitive sports were completely stupid.

Those who participate in them in spades.

Are they pathetically insecure?

Yep, in spades.

OK, you need please only yourself.

I didnt say that either. I JUST said that a particular idea is a worthwhile idea or not
regardless of whether anyone chooses to buy a product of yours that involves it.

I grew up playing a different game, namely one where
the value of a product is how well it works for others.

Different matter entirely to the ideas being discussed.

The advantage here is the wonderful variety of problems the customers
present, and the baseline of existing designs that beg to be topped.

Different matter entirely to the ideas being discussed.
You have a real knack for the repetition thing. Yes, I know, that's a
different matter entirely to the ideas being discussed.

John
 
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:16:01 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill wrote

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.

Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be
sifted by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally
turned into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell it
to people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the
ideas out there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'

If nobody buys your stuff, that's OK with you?

Yep, if I know that its a good idea. I dont care whether anyone else agrees or not.
---
So you and your good idea get to die in the dark instead of getting
proliferated for your good and that of all mankind?

That's pretty damned selfish, I'd say, since all you get if you do it
that way is to suck tour thumb and watch the world die around you.
---

I love it when Pratt&Whitney or McDonald Douglas or Rolls Royce or the Skunk
Works picks my stuff over somebody else's. Is that pathetically insecure?

Yep, particularly when anyone with a clue realises that corporates
can pick things for completely silly bureaucratic reasons.
---
Like _you've_ got a clue?

Tell us about your life in corporate America and how you know that
what you claim is true. Oh, and while you're at it, tell us about
your experiences regarding electronic circuit design and how you've
made a difference, OK?
---

If you've got a clue, you know if your idea is any good.
---
Nope, unless all you care about it is for your own use.
---

You dont need someone to 'validate' that.
---
That's not true in the private sector, where sales are validation.
---

How do you feel about atheletes who want to win an Olympic Gold, or the Super Bowl?

I've always believed that all competitive sports were completely stupid.
Those who participate in them in spades.
---
And yet, here you are on USENET, running the race of your life and
trying to prove that you're right and everyone else is wrong.

Kind of like a sperm...

Except that by your assertion that competitive sports are stupid you
automatically lose any chance at the egg.

Hey, it works for me...
---

Are they pathetically insecure?

Yep, in spades.
---
I think not.

They have the balls to believe they're the best and aren't afraid to
put it all on the line to prove it.

And you?


JF
 
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:32:25 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:16:01 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill wrote

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.

Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be
sifted by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally
turned into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell it
to people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the
ideas out there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'

If nobody buys your stuff, that's OK with you?

Yep, if I know that its a good idea. I dont care whether anyone else agrees or not.

I love it when Pratt&Whitney or McDonald Douglas or Rolls Royce or the Skunk
Works picks my stuff over somebody else's. Is that pathetically insecure?

Yep, particularly when anyone with a clue realises that corporates
can pick things for completely silly bureaucratic reasons.

If you've got a clue, you know if your idea is any good.

You dont need someone to 'validate' that.

How do you feel about atheletes who want to win an Olympic Gold, or the Super Bowl?

I've always believed that all competitive sports were completely stupid.

Those who participate in them in spades.

Are they pathetically insecure?

Yep, in spades.


OK, you need please only yourself. I grew up playing a different game,
namely one where the value of a product is how well it works for
others. The advantage here is the wonderful variety of problems the
customers present, and the baseline of existing designs that beg to be
topped.
---
Nicely phrased.

JF
 
BretCahill@peoplepc.com wrote:

Since you have no IP or web page, perhaps you'ld like to try something
else?
This is IIRC JL's website.
http://www.highlandtechnology.com/

Graham
 
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:40:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:


History is riddled with examples of footshot after footshot after footshot
where corporates have been too stupid to know a good idea when they
see one and where they ignore a good idea because it would cripple
the prospects for their current offers in the market etc.
Do you know the rough probability that, the next time you fly
somewhere on a jet plane, that it will crash?


John
 
Rod Speed wrote:

I piss on clowns like you from a great height.

You get to like that or lump it, child.
He's no child, kiddie.

Graham
 
�People seem to be attracted
to horseshit.
If that were true then maybe more would answer your posts.

Nothing political but the sidebar tree always has a long slope to the
right with my posts and a long slope to the left with yours.

Face reality, most everyone thinks nutters are boring.

Anyway nutters might want to mainstream spree shootings by going
carbon free.

"Shoot local" would be your bumper sticler


Bret Cahill
 
On Aug 1, 10:42 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
People seem to be attracted
to horseshit.

If that were true then maybe more would answer your posts.
And yet, here you are, my trained monkey. Another
turn of the organ grinder, another cute monkey dance.

Nothing political but the sidebar tree always has a long slope to the
right with my posts and a long slope to the left with yours.
And yet, here you are, trying to get the last word.

Anyway, this dodges the central issue. When I say something,
it is really the last word on the subject. People read my posts,
they don't say, "I gotta answer this horseshit."

Face reality, most everyone thinks nutters are boring.
Obviously not, or you would get far fewer readers.
And everyone seems to believe they can debunk
your looniness. They have no idea how long you
can dodge and dodge and dodge.

Anyway nutters might want to mainstream spree shootings by going
carbon free.

"Shoot local"  would be your bumper sticler
Yawn.
 
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:40:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote
John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
Bret Cahill wrote

Everyone's seen that stuff 8 billion times.

Are you trying to bore everyone to death or what?

OK, show us something interesting that you've done.

I'm constantly posting ideas, especially in the summer.

Ideas are wonderful; the more the better. But they have to be
sifted by reality, lest they just be a heap of noise. And occasionally
turned into real stuff to add a little feedback to the process.

It's rewarding to have an idea, make it actually work, and sell
it to people who appreciate it. Call it insecurity, but seeing the
ideas out there working, for serious people, is awfully validating.

Only the pathetically insecure actually need any 'validating'

If nobody buys your stuff, that's OK with you?

Yep, if I know that its a good idea. I dont care whether anyone else agrees or not.

So you and your good idea get to die in the dark

Never said anything like that. You dont have to turn the idea
into a viable product yourself for it to be a worthwhile idea.

instead of getting proliferated for your good and that of all mankind?

Plenty of ideas are nothing like that.

That's pretty damned selfish, I'd say,

Have fun thrashing that straw man ?

since all you get if you do it that way is to suck
tour thumb and watch the world die around you.

Not if someone else chooses to use the idea.

I love it when Pratt&Whitney or McDonald Douglas or Rolls Royce or the Skunk
Works picks my stuff over somebody else's. Is that pathetically insecure?

Yep, particularly when anyone with a clue realises that corporates
can pick things for completely silly bureaucratic reasons.

Like _you've_ got a clue?

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.

Tell us about your life in corporate America
and how you know that what you claim is true.

Dont need to have anything like that to see that that particular claim is true.

History is riddled with examples of footshot after footshot after footshot
where corporates have been too stupid to know a good idea when they
see one and where they ignore a good idea because it would cripple
the prospects for their current offers in the market etc.

Oh, and while you're at it, tell us about your experiences regarding
electronic circuit design and how you've made a difference, OK?

None of your business.

If you've got a clue, you know if your idea is any good.

Nope,

Yep.

unless all you care about it is for your own use.

Wrong, as always.

You dont need someone to 'validate' that.

That's not true in the private sector,

Wrong again. Most obviously when someone else uses a worthwhile idea.

where sales are validation.

Only for narrow focused fools that are pathetically insecure.

How do you feel about atheletes who want to win an Olympic Gold, or the Super Bowl?

I've always believed that all competitive sports were completely stupid.

Those who participate in them in spades.

And yet, here you are on USENET, running the race of your life
and trying to prove that you're right and everyone else is wrong.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys/pathetic excuse for a troll.

reams of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys flushed where they belong

Are they pathetically insecure?

Yep, in spades.

I think not.

Thats the only thing you did manage to get right. Nothing to 'think' with.

They have the balls to believe they're the best

Or are drugged to the gills to try to cheat the system.

and aren't afraid to put it all on the line to prove it.

And you?

I piss on clowns like you from a great height.

You get to like that or lump it, child.
What could you possibly know about great heights?

John
 
John Larkin wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote:
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote

And you?

I piss on clowns like you from a great height.

You get to like that or lump it, child.


What could you possibly know about great heights?
I'm hard pressed to tell who's the least imaginative insulter. Cahill or Speed.

Graham
 

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