Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner?

[Bob Masta]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:18:02 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:18:36 GMT, NoSpam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:

Jon, it would be of great interest! I still use DOS every day,
so that's not an issue at all. (My favorite programming editor
is a DOS version, so I am writing Windows apps using DOS.
How's that for strange?)

Thanks for your generous offer.

Shall I just email the EXE in ZIP form?

That would be excellent.... many thanks!



Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom

D A Q A R T A
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www.daqarta.com

 

[Robert Monsen]

Greg Neill wrote:

"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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Sounds like maybe you should use Windoze Calculator or an enhanced copy
of it that has more features.


Try to obtain a copy of Mathcad. There are student
editions for almost reasonable prices.

Another option is MuPAD. <http://research.mupad.de/>

There is a free version. It does symbolic and numerical calculations
math. I've been using it for about 6 months now, and I really like it.

The pro version is nicer, but it does cost somthing. You can download it
and use it for a month. It has a great tutorial.

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[Jim Douglas]

You are 100% with the Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T. I have been looking
for a calculator that does just that without have perform multiple key
strokes!



"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"NewzHound777" <NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote in message
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Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in
advance.


Any will do. They all have Engineering notation, Sin, Cos, Tan, Log, Lin,
Sqrt, Reciprocal. Buy the cheapest.
I've used a Casio Fx-80 and Fx451m for what seems like forever. Keep
buying
new ones to try, then throwing them away when I find the bloody things use
"VPAM".

What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...

Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.
Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.
A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.
*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.
A seperate button for every function.
Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.
Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.

And while I'm at it, please, please Santa, a simple, non-menued mobile
phone, fitted with man sized buttons.

regards
john

 

[Robert Monsen]

john jardine wrote:

"NewzHound777" <NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote in message
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Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in

advance.


Any will do. They all have Engineering notation, Sin, Cos, Tan, Log, Lin,
Sqrt, Reciprocal. Buy the cheapest.
I've used a Casio Fx-80 and Fx451m for what seems like forever. Keep buying
new ones to try, then throwing them away when I find the bloody things use
"VPAM".

What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...

Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.
Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.
A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.
*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.
A seperate button for every function.
Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.
Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.

And while I'm at it, please, please Santa, a simple, non-menued mobile
phone, fitted with man sized buttons.

regards
john

It took a bit for me to get used to VPAM, or "Visually Perfect Algebraic
Method", but now I like it. I guess that ruins me for other
calculators.... it just tries to make the buttons follow the order one
would read the entry on paper, so instead of typing [1] [0] [ln] to
compute the natual log of 10, you type [ln] [1] [0] [=]. It is also nice
to be able to reedit prior expressions.

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[Jonathan Kirwan]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:38:23 -0000, "john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...

Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.

Which later features you mention below may mandate!

Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.

Sounds like HP RPN, except that I guess you don't want to bring in RPN at the
same time.

A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.

On a scientific calculator? Wow! I could use it. What I do now is use a
calculator program I wrote for myself that handles physics units as well as
mensuration support. I can then print out the page on the printer.

*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.

Yup. Make them hall effect or else reed relay keys, too?

A seperate button for every function.

Ah! Now, that would be very handy. I see why it is a big desktop thing, now.

Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.

Hehe. Looks like it's going to be an AC thing, all right!

Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.

On this narrow point, the very cheap Casio fx-115MS does it. I have access to
f, p, n, u, m, k, M, G, and T during entry of numbers. I believe I paid
slightly more than US$10 for one.

Jon

 

[john jardine]

"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:38:23 -0000, "john jardine"
john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk
wrote:

What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...

Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.

Which later features you mention below may mandate!

Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.

Sounds like HP RPN, except that I guess you don't want to bring in RPN at
the
same time.

A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.

On a scientific calculator? Wow! I could use it. What I do now is use a
calculator program I wrote for myself that handles physics units as well
as
mensuration support. I can then print out the page on the printer.

*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.

Yup. Make them hall effect or else reed relay keys, too?

A seperate button for every function.

Ah! Now, that would be very handy. I see why it is a big desktop thing,
now.

Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.

Hehe. Looks like it's going to be an AC thing, all right!

Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.

On this narrow point, the very cheap Casio fx-115MS does it. I have
access to
f, p, n, u, m, k, M, G, and T during entry of numbers. I believe I paid
slightly more than US$10 for one.

Jon

Just looked up the Fx115ms on Google. F**k! F**k!. It's one of those I
bought and threw away after 20 secs use, just cos of the VPAM thing :-(
I'm buying another
regards
john

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"NewzHound777" <NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote in message
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Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in
advance.


Any will do. They all have Engineering notation, Sin, Cos, Tan, Log,
Lin,
Sqrt, Reciprocal. Buy the cheapest.
I've used a Casio Fx-80 and Fx451m for what seems like forever. Keep
buying
new ones to try, then throwing them away when I find the bloody things
use
"VPAM".

What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...

Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.
Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.
A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.
*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.
A seperate button for every function.
Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.
Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.

Sounds like maybe you should use Windoze Calculator or an enhanced copy
of it that has more features.

And while I'm at it, please, please Santa, a simple, non-menued mobile
phone, fitted with man sized buttons.

regards
john

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:14:34 +0000, Robert Monsen wrote:

john jardine wrote:
"NewzHound777" <NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote in message
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Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in

advance.


Any will do. They all have Engineering notation, Sin, Cos, Tan, Log, Lin,
Sqrt, Reciprocal. Buy the cheapest.
I've used a Casio Fx-80 and Fx451m for what seems like forever. Keep buying
new ones to try, then throwing them away when I find the bloody things use
"VPAM".

What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...

Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.
Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.
A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.
*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.
A seperate button for every function.
Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.
Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.

And while I'm at it, please, please Santa, a simple, non-menued mobile
phone, fitted with man sized buttons.

regards
john


It took a bit for me to get used to VPAM, or "Visually Perfect Algebraic
Method", but now I like it. I guess that ruins me for other
calculators.... it just tries to make the buttons follow the order one
would read the entry on paper, so instead of typing [1] [0] [ln] to
compute the natual log of 10, you type [ln] [1] [0] [=]. It is also nice
to be able to reedit prior expressions.

This is called "Algebraic Entry." I guess it shows that RPN really does
cause brain damage! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:43:27 +0000, Robert Monsen wrote:

NewzHound777 wrote:
Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in advance.



I use a casio fx-115MS, which cost about $20 US. I'm pretty impressed
with it. It solves simple equations numerically, and does complex
arithmetic, hex, octal, binary, etc, in addition to all of the stuff you
generally get. It'll compute derivatives and integrals numerically. It
does fractions (and keeps them in fractional form). It's solar powered,
for the most part (it has a solar panel, but it also has a battery; I
guess they keep the battery charged up, but also recommend you change
the battery after a few years).

Well, I'll be! I just pulled out my old Casio, and it calls itself
"FX-115v SUPER-FX"

It's got stuff I don't even know how to use, which admittedly, isn't that
much of a stretch. ;-)

And, unfortunately, it only goes up to FFFFFFFF hex. And it doesn't have
an "off" button, which makes me uncomfortable.

It was about 10 bucks.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Bob Masta]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:26:01 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:38:40 GMT, NoSpam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:

And while we're at it, which ones allow *big* Hex calculations,
like multiplying two 32-bit numbers together. This would
be really nice for programming use, but the calculators I've
seen only handle what fits in the (limited) number of display
digits. I wouldn't mind scrolling or something to see both
ends of the value, if needed. This comes up so often in
programming that I imagine *somebody* must make one.
Or is there something like the Windows calculator app that
handles big hex?

I had thought that my TI-92 and TI-86 handled 64 bits, but when I just tested
them it's just that they display negative numbers with that many bits. It looks
like they only calculate at 32 bits total. (I did fudge up my own 128-bit 'alu'
calculator under DOS. It handles expressions, square root, and the basic
operations and the division result provides both quotient and remainder and the
multiplication provides 256 bit results. If it's of any interest, I'd be happy
to provide it.)

Jon, it would be of great interest! I still use DOS every day,
so that's not an issue at all. (My favorite programming editor
is a DOS version, so I am writing Windows apps using DOS.
How's that for strange?)

Thanks for your generous offer.


Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom

D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com