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NewzHound777
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Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in advance.
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Al Borowski
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NewzHound777 wrote:
cheers,
Al
I don't think it really matters... just use a Casio cheapie.
cheers,
Al
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The Phantom
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:36:41 GMT, "NewzHound777"
<NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote:
If TI is your favorite, get the TI89.
They both "do it all", and you'll pay for that capability.
<NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote:
If you like HP calculators, get the HP49G+.
If TI is your favorite, get the TI89.
They both "do it all", and you'll pay for that capability.
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Robert Monsen
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NewzHound777 wrote:
with it. It solves simple equations numerically, and does complex
arithmetic, hex, octal, binary, etc, in addition to all of the stuff you
generally get. It'll compute derivatives and integrals numerically. It
does fractions (and keeps them in fractional form). It's solar powered,
for the most part (it has a solar panel, but it also has a battery; I
guess they keep the battery charged up, but also recommend you change
the battery after a few years).
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Regards,
Robert Monsen
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
I use a casio fx-115MS, which cost about $20 US. I'm pretty impressed
with it. It solves simple equations numerically, and does complex
arithmetic, hex, octal, binary, etc, in addition to all of the stuff you
generally get. It'll compute derivatives and integrals numerically. It
does fractions (and keeps them in fractional form). It's solar powered,
for the most part (it has a solar panel, but it also has a battery; I
guess they keep the battery charged up, but also recommend you change
the battery after a few years).
--
Regards,
Robert Monsen
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
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Dr. Anton T. Squeegee
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In article <JLHnd.4435$Qh3.3482@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com says...
one sitting on top of your shoulders.
You should really learn enough math to at least deal with the
basics of electronics. Not doing so can (and probably will) cause
numerous problems down the road, no matter if you're just a hobbyist or
make a career out of it (take it from one who found that out the hard
way!)
I'm sure your local community college can help. Happy hunting.
--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"
NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com says...
The best possible scientific calculator you can ever own is the
one sitting on top of your shoulders.
You should really learn enough math to at least deal with the
basics of electronics. Not doing so can (and probably will) cause
numerous problems down the road, no matter if you're just a hobbyist or
make a career out of it (take it from one who found that out the hard
way!)
I'm sure your local community college can help. Happy hunting.
--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"
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john jardine
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"NewzHound777" <NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote in message
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I've used a Casio Fx-80 and Fx451m for what seems like forever. Keep buying
new ones to try, then throwing them away when I find the bloody things use
"VPAM".
What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...
Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.
Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.
A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.
*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.
A seperate button for every function.
Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.
Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.
And while I'm at it, please, please Santa, a simple, non-menued mobile
phone, fitted with man sized buttons.
regards
john
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Sqrt, Reciprocal. Buy the cheapest.
I've used a Casio Fx-80 and Fx451m for what seems like forever. Keep buying
new ones to try, then throwing them away when I find the bloody things use
"VPAM".
What I really, really want is a scientific calculator that's ...
Size and weight of a big book so it stays where its put.
Able to enter a number in and *then* press Sin.
A Printing mechanism to see where I've been.
*Big* buttons that click, that I can see and press easily.
A seperate button for every function.
Big, *bright* LED or plasma display.
Direct entry of p,n,u,m,k,M,G,T.
And while I'm at it, please, please Santa, a simple, non-menued mobile
phone, fitted with man sized buttons.
regards
john
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Steve Evans
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:43:27 GMT, Robert Monsen
<rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
(second battery now) and there's nothing around all these years later
that can touch it. Plus it's programmable, too. And it's taken a *lot*
of use over those years. I'd thoroughly recommend it to anyone. Only
cost about 20 dollars when new, too.
--
Fat, sugar, salt, beer: the four essentials for a healthy diet.
<rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
Sounds very much like mine. I've had Casio's fx-3400P for 12 years
(second battery now) and there's nothing around all these years later
that can touch it. Plus it's programmable, too. And it's taken a *lot*
of use over those years. I'd thoroughly recommend it to anyone. Only
cost about 20 dollars when new, too.
--
Fat, sugar, salt, beer: the four essentials for a healthy diet.
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Chaos Master
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Isn't NewzHound777 missing?
Totally programmable -- and there's programs for almost anything at
www.hpcalc.org.
[1] Actually, even a 48GX or 49G would do. But since the new models are
updated, they're worth it.
[]s
--
Chaos MasterŽ, posting from somewhere near Porto Alegre, Brazil.
"It's not what it seems, not what you think. No, I must be dreaming."
http://marreka.blogspot.com --> news, hotter than high-power transistors!
I would get an HP49G+ [1].
Totally programmable -- and there's programs for almost anything at
www.hpcalc.org.
[1] Actually, even a 48GX or 49G would do. But since the new models are
updated, they're worth it.
[]s
--
Chaos MasterŽ, posting from somewhere near Porto Alegre, Brazil.
"It's not what it seems, not what you think. No, I must be dreaming."
http://marreka.blogspot.com --> news, hotter than high-power transistors!
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john jardine
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"Robert Monsen" <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote in message
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It's now worth my buying another calc with VPAM and persevering for a while
.
regards
john
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who've already been there, seen it and done it.
It's now worth my buying another calc with VPAM and persevering for a while
.regards
john
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Bob Masta
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:36:41 GMT, "NewzHound777"
<NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote:
like multiplying two 32-bit numbers together. This would
be really nice for programming use, but the calculators I've
seen only handle what fits in the (limited) number of display
digits. I wouldn't mind scrolling or something to see both
ends of the value, if needed. This comes up so often in
programming that I imagine *somebody* must make one.
Or is there something like the Windows calculator app that
handles big hex?
Thanks!
Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom
D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com
<NewzHound777@777KozmikNewz.com> wrote:
And while we're at it, which ones allow *big* Hex calculations,
like multiplying two 32-bit numbers together. This would
be really nice for programming use, but the calculators I've
seen only handle what fits in the (limited) number of display
digits. I wouldn't mind scrolling or something to see both
ends of the value, if needed. This comes up so often in
programming that I imagine *somebody* must make one.
Or is there something like the Windows calculator app that
handles big hex?
Thanks!
Bob Masta
dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom
D A Q A R T A
Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
www.daqarta.com
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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"Robert Monsen" <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote in message
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octal conversions that they're nearly useless. Try converting 2CC hex
to binary, then try converting 1011001100 bin to hex. Don't be
surprised of you get an error! And worse, you'll get some fonky number
such as FFFFFEC, which is clearly an error. :-(
[snip]
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uKnd.540421$mD.277602@attbi_s02...Casio (and others such as Sharp, etc.) have such limited hex - bin -
octal conversions that they're nearly useless. Try converting 2CC hex
to binary, then try converting 1011001100 bin to hex. Don't be
surprised of you get an error! And worse, you'll get some fonky number
such as FFFFFEC, which is clearly an error. :-(
[snip]
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Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su
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"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" <SpammersAreVermin@dev.null> wrote in message
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down the electronics tech program. This month we got word that one of
the electronics instructors that retired last year died. :-(
news:MPG.1c091777227f9912989818@192.168.42.131...
Sadly, mine (rsccd.org/sac.edu) can't any more. Last summer they closed
down the electronics tech program. This month we got word that one of
the electronics instructors that retired last year died. :-(
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Robert Monsen
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
does it. Unfortunately, it doesn't do complex arithmetic, which is why I
bought the casio one.
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Regards,
Robert Monsen
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
It's sign extending. However, if you need hex, the windows calculator"Robert Monsen" <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote in message
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NewzHound777 wrote:
Which scientific calculator does it all for the beginner? Thanks in
advance.
I use a casio fx-115MS, which cost about $20 US. I'm pretty impressed
with it. It solves simple equations numerically, and does complex
arithmetic, hex, octal, binary, etc, in addition to all of the stuff
you
generally get.
Casio (and others such as Sharp, etc.) have such limited hex - bin -
octal conversions that they're nearly useless. Try converting 2CC hex
to binary, then try converting 1011001100 bin to hex. Don't be
surprised of you get an error! And worse, you'll get some fonky number
such as FFFFFEC, which is clearly an error. :-(
[snip]
--
Regards,
Robert Monsen
does it. Unfortunately, it doesn't do complex arithmetic, which is why I
bought the casio one.
--
Regards,
Robert Monsen
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
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Greg Neill
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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editions for almost reasonable prices.
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Try to obtain a copy of Mathcad. There are student
editions for almost reasonable prices.
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Clarence
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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See BSE for SCI-Calc
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Jonathan Kirwan
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:38:40 GMT, NoSpam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:
them it's just that they display negative numbers with that many bits. It looks
like they only calculate at 32 bits total. (I did fudge up my own 128-bit 'alu'
calculator under DOS. It handles expressions, square root, and the basic
operations and the division result provides both quotient and remainder and the
multiplication provides 256 bit results. If it's of any interest, I'd be happy
to provide it.)
Jon
I had thought that my TI-92 and TI-86 handled 64 bits, but when I just tested
them it's just that they display negative numbers with that many bits. It looks
like they only calculate at 32 bits total. (I did fudge up my own 128-bit 'alu'
calculator under DOS. It handles expressions, square root, and the basic
operations and the division result provides both quotient and remainder and the
multiplication provides 256 bit results. If it's of any interest, I'd be happy
to provide it.)
Jon
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CBarn24050
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TI-65 goes to 40 bits
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David L. Jones
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NewzHound777 wrote:
For electronics work you can't beat the Casio FX-61F, it is
specifically designed for electronics. Every calculator should have a
parallel key!
Baring that, any general casio will be more than what you need for most
general work.
The casio CFX-400 was of course the ducks guts, a complete scientific
calculator with base conversion on your wrist!
A sad day when the discontinued that one.
Dave
For electronics work you can't beat the Casio FX-61F, it is
specifically designed for electronics. Every calculator should have a
parallel key!
Baring that, any general casio will be more than what you need for most
general work.
The casio CFX-400 was of course the ducks guts, a complete scientific
calculator with base conversion on your wrist!
A sad day when the discontinued that one.
Dave
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Jonathan Kirwan
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:18:36 GMT, NoSpam@daqarta.com (Bob Masta) wrote:
Jon
Shall I just email the EXE in ZIP form?
Jon
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Dave
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"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> wrote in message
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but you never know. I've been out of the flow for too many years.) Wife
just bought one for me and it is in storage until 12/25, but I would like to
know.
Thanks much,
Dave
db5151@hotmail.com
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an.2004.11.23.04.25.05.404268@example.net...Please, which method does the TI-89 Titanium use? (I expect Algebraic Entry,
but you never know. I've been out of the flow for too many years.) Wife
just bought one for me and it is in storage until 12/25, but I would like to
know.
Thanks much,
Dave
db5151@hotmail.com