where can I get a circuit board for a project appearing in R

[BillyBob]

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

 

[BillyBob]

On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before they were NLA.

It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards. If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before they were NLA.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:30:32 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:

On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards. If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?

You might find a local hobbyist who could do that, but PC Board houses want digital files and have minimum runs plus setup costs. Is there a local 'Maker' group?

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:30:32 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards. If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?

You may be in luck... if you can find a Gerber file of the board. An image in a magazine isn't good enough. There is an guy who makes board for a fairly low cost per square inch. You do have to buy three of them, but still pretty much better than anyone else around.

https://oshpark.com/

2 Layer Prototype
3 PCBs
$5 per square inch
Ships in under 12 days

Oh yeah, you'll need drill file if you want plated through holes. If you are happy drilling your own, no issue.

It was a hobby magazine that ceased publication in 2003. The articles were intended to use hand bade boards, like I did in the late '60s. A blank piece of un-etched single sided board and a resist pen did the layout. I doubt tat any of those boards ever had Gerbers.

Maybe Don Lancaster could shed some light on this, since he wrote articles for Hobby Electronics magazines back then.

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:30:32 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:

On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards. If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?

You may be in luck... if you can find a Gerber file of the board. An image in a magazine isn't good enough. There is an guy who makes board for a fairly low cost per square inch. You do have to buy three of them, but still pretty much better than anyone else around.

https://oshpark.com/

2 Layer Prototype
3 PCBs
$5 per square inch
Ships in under 12 days

Oh yeah, you'll need drill file if you want plated through holes. If you are happy drilling your own, no issue.

--

Rick C.

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On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 20:30:26 -0400, BillyBob <billybob@noemail.net>
wrote:

On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards. If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?

Building a kit is kinda mindless. Make your own. It's not hard.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zaftysxtgclxj82/Z412_Proto.JPG?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd19osiwz1z74s4/HV_Proto_2.JPG?raw=1

You can get parts from Mouser or Digikey.




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lunatic fringe electronics

 

BillyBob <billybob@noemail.net> wrote in
news:qntmcj$ko$1@dont-email.me:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for
projects that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you
in advance.

Depends on the age of the article and most have source information
included in the article.

So, the FEB 1982 article on making an inband gated sync descrambler
for analog cable feeds will not likely be easy to find.

But a newer article might be able to be found.

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

Here's an idea. If Gerber files are not at hand, you can do your own layout. FreePCB allows you to start with nothing, adding your own components and connecting them with your own nets. It's easy and fun. Than you'll have something to send to OSH Park.

http://www.freepcb.com/

This will produce a very good looking board for not a lot of effort and only a few dollars, about as much as a six pack or a movie ticket most likely.

--

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+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

BillyBob <billybob@noemail.net> wrote in
news:qntr73$me6$1@dont-email.me:

It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't
have any boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just
wondered if anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards.
If not, who out there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the
article) and make it into a board at reasonable cost?

There are PCB board houses out there that will make you a proto run
of as few as ten boards and it is cheap too.

All you need to do is lay it out again.

Hell, switch over to all surface mount devices and you can make it
better than it ever was.

 

[Rick C]

On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 12:25:47 AM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:

BillyBob wrote:
On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine.  Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless
you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the
only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts
with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before
they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth.  Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards.  If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?
Anyone can make 2-sided PCBs at home, not too expensive. Only problem
is PTH.

Not when you use through hole parts which is most likely what will be used on this project.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 2,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Robert Baer]

BillyBob wrote:

On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine.  Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards. Unless
you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux Capacitors, that is the
only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of parts
with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year or two before
they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't have any
boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth.  Just wondered if
anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards.  If not, who out
there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the article) and make it
into a board at reasonable cost?

Anyone can make 2-sided PCBs at home, not too expensive. Only problem
is PTH.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 13/10/2019 02:02, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:52:16 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:30:32 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:
On 10/12/19 8:17 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob
wrote:
I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards
for projects that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine.
Thank you in advance.

Most of their projects had a layout to make your own boards.
Unless you have a Delorean and a good supply of Flux
Capacitors, that is the only way that you could buy one.

The few articles that listed a suppler wanted to sell a kit of
parts with the board. Most of those kits were sold for a year
or two before they were NLA.


It would cost me more to make a board right now, since I don't
have any boards or the chemicals needed, than it's worth. Just
wondered if anyone existed out there with perhaps extra boards.
If not, who out there could take a jpeg (digital cut out from the
article) and make it into a board at reasonable cost?

You may be in luck... if you can find a Gerber file of the board.
An image in a magazine isn't good enough. There is an guy who
makes board for a fairly low cost per square inch. You do have to
buy three of them, but still pretty much better than anyone else
around.

https://oshpark.com/

2 Layer Prototype 3 PCBs $5 per square inch Ships in under 12 days

Oh yeah, you'll need drill file if you want plated through holes.
If you are happy drilling your own, no issue.


It was a hobby magazine that ceased publication in 2003. The articles
were intended to use hand bade boards, like I did in the late '60s. A
blank piece of un-etched single sided board and a resist pen did the
layout. I doubt tat any of those boards ever had Gerbers.

Maybe Don Lancaster could shed some light on this, since he wrote
articles for Hobby Electronics magazines back then.

The classic way to do it as a hobbyist back in the 70's was to trace the
board layout by hand and use a centre pop to transfer all the holes onto
the copper side. Then join the lands up with a suitable thick permanent
marker pen. They sold proper resist pens but trial and error most dense
ones worked OK if they didn't leave thin streaks.

The old copper etch chemistries were simple and still available for
hobbyists being warmed strong ferric chloride solution (reuasble) or the
more dodgy but cleaner cold HCl/H2O2 mix (which you must never store).

Beginners tend to break the fine drills putting the holes in.

Almost any makerspace or hackspace ought to have the ability to make
PCBs in some form or other. These days probably by printing a mask onto
an acetate sheet and using a pretreated photoresist board.

Some popular designs still have PCBs available from who ever the
magazine contracted them out to. I was able to buy a theremin board from
a UK maker decades after the magazine had ceased to exist. Amazing what
a google search with the right keywords can turn up.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

On Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:08:09 UTC+1, BillyBob wrote:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

There's an easier way than the suggestions so far. Use matrix board, add the tracks yourself by soldering on wires. Downside is most such board is thin and paper based. Using insulated flex rather than solid core mitigates the issues that causes somewhat.


NT

 

[Martin Brown]

On 13/10/2019 02:45, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

BillyBob <billybob@noemail.net> wrote in
news:qntmcj$ko$1@dont-email.me:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for
projects that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you
in advance.


Depends on the age of the article and most have source information
included in the article.

So, the FEB 1982 article on making an inband gated sync descrambler
for analog cable feeds will not likely be easy to find.

Why not? Surely any public library that took the magazine would have it
in storage somewhere. Failing that a copyright library.

I can't see that building one now would do you much good.

But a newer article might be able to be found.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:02:56 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

It was a hobby magazine that ceased publication in 2003. The articles
were intended to use hand bade boards, like I did in the late '60s. A
blank piece of un-etched single sided board and a resist pen did the
layout.

I'm still using that old technique, but it's getting harder to find dry
ferric chloride in pellets these days, in Yurp anyway. The vast majority
of suppliers insist on supplying it as ready-made solution which is no
good to me. Or else what you see advertised as FC is in fact sodium
persulphate, which takes at least 3 times as long to do the job.




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Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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On 13/10/2019 02:45, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
BillyBob <billybob@noemail.net> wrote in
news:qntmcj$ko$1@dont-email.me:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for
projects that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you
in advance.


Depends on the age of the article and most have source
information
included in the article.

So, the FEB 1982 article on making an inband gated sync
descrambler
for analog cable feeds will not likely be easy to find.

Not the magazine, silly. The circuit board, which was originally
something one could order from the designer.

Why not? Surely any public library that took the magazine would
have it in storage somewhere. Failing that a copyright library.

I am sure the mag is available in many, many libraries around the
nation. I never said the mag would be hard to find. The discussion
is about PCBs. I simply gave an example of an old article.

I can't see that building one now would do you much good.

It was simply an example, dufus. I doubt that even a third world
country has any analog cable systems.

But a newer article might be able to be found.

 

[mpm]

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 7:08:09 PM UTC-4, BillyBob wrote:

I'm trying to find a source that would carry circuit boards for projects
that appeared in Radio Electronics Magazine. Thank you in advance.

You can also use: https://www.expresspcb.com/ Just download their free editor, which is very easy to use, and then just draw / copy the circuit by hand. You don't need a Gerber file (or even a schematic). The downside is you are locked into buying from ExpressPCB, at least for the first order, but they are relatively inexpensive. After your first order, they will send you a Gerber file for free, which will allow you to buy elsewhere (such as JLCPCB), but if you're only going to make a few boards... why bother?

There are several other companies that provide simple proprietary editors like this. They are all priced about the same.

 

[BillyBob]

Thanks much, guys. Upon carefully reading the original article, the
author mentions either purchasing the circuit board or using perf board.
I think I'm going to do the latter (perf board) as I still have
leftover pieces unused from many, many years ago.

 

[Don Kuenz]

BillyBob <billybob@noemail.net> wrote:

Thanks much, guys. Upon carefully reading the original article, the
author mentions either purchasing the circuit board or using perf board.
I think I'm going to do the latter (perf board) as I still have
leftover pieces unused from many, many years ago.

FR4 universal prototype board, shown in use here:

http://crcomp.net/electronic/mixeramp/5.png

available here:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=fr4+universal+prototype

is an excellent substitute for the through hole PCBs shown in old hobby
magazines. All things considered, universal board offers the quickest,
cheapest, easiest way to build small to medium sized, one of a kind,
through hole, light power, simple circuit boards.
In other words, the type of circuit typically found in a hobby
magazine. There's SMD carrier boards that mate with universal to
accommodate newer component packages. It's also pretty easy to solder
larger SMD resistors and capacitors to universal.

Thank you, 73,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
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She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.