What's With These Holographic UL stickers?

  • Thread starter Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun
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There was a Darwin natural-selection candidate years back who sued because
he fell off his
ladder - which he climbed after placing it on a pile of manure. Of course,
he won!

"jriegle" <jriegle@att.net> wrote in message
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After seeing the labels that have to be placed on products now, it makes
me
feel good that there are people in this world that a dumber than I.
John

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
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In article <vq4kgb9dhqjq34@corp.supernews.com>, rcrowley7@xprt.net
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"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote ...
Gee, you'd think that these UL stickers that are on electrical items
like plug switches are the latest and greatest microsloth software.
The sticker shows the holographic UL in a circle when you move it
around in the light. Y4?

One can only assume that they are having the same problem
as Microsoft, counterfeiting. Likely lots of places where it is
illegal to sell without UL stickers, but UL approval is not cheap.

Next thing you know, they'll have a shrink-wrap license on the back
of
the blister pack!! ;-))

Last couple of power extension cords I bought have several HUGE
plastic tags on each end with warnings about everything up to a
reminder
to keep breathing to avoid asphyxiation.

Hah-hah! Snork! One of the guys at work was out because he got
scalded by some hot water. Reminded me of that lady who won the
lawsuit against McDonalds because she got scalded by hot coffee.
Now every time I see a cup of coffee, I'm reminded of that by the now
prevelant WARNING on it. In multiple languages!


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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:39:36 -0500, Keith R. Williams
<krw@attglobal.net> Gave us:

Go figr kidz today!
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It was a 90 odd year old lady that sued MacDonalds.
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 03:50:01 GMT, "Gerald Newton"
<senior_citizen2@alaska.com> Gave us:

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Gee, you'd think that these UL stickers that are on electrical items
like plug switches are the latest and greatest microsloth software.
The sticker shows the holographic UL in a circle when you move it
around in the light. Y4?

Next thing you know, they'll have a shrink-wrap license on the back of
the blister pack!! ;-))


Counterfeit UL labels are a common occurence in Alaska. While inspecting
the Red Dog Mine project I found numerous nonlisted equipment. On the next
trip the equipment had UL labels on it. I took the number off the UL albels
and contacted UL to find that the labels had come from England. UL wanted
me to investigate for them. That was not possible and UL never followed up.
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That's the whole thing. Regardless of how the product and or
package is marked, it is the item that is traceable as to it's
conformance. Call in the number, and get verification upon receipt of
newly purchased items.

That is what incoming inspection procedures are for. It should
never make it into field use if it didn't get inspected for
conformance first.

Granted, the holographic labels are a more secure device, there is
still nothing like checking it out.

We silk screen our UL mark on at least two of our products. Each
was individually certified by UL at UL's facility. Many companies
can "self certify" with the correct personnel, and UL approval. Same
for CSA.

Some of our devices have the mark included in our product abel.
Some of our products are conversion modules, and do not even need UL
approval. Since we have plants in, and market in other countries,
there are plenty of other certs that are needed before UL, for non-AC
powered devices sold in european, asian, and middle eastern countries
 
Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:02:39 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> Gave us:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 04:50:36 -0800, the renowned Watson A.Name - "Watt
Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hah-hah! Snork! One of the guys at work was out because he got
scalded by some hot water. Reminded me of that lady who won the
lawsuit against McDonalds because she got scalded by hot coffee.
Now every time I see a cup of coffee, I'm reminded of that by the now
prevelant WARNING on it. In multiple languages!

Warning: Do not immerse genitals in product.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


Wringer washers...

Remeber? where did the expression "get yer tit in a wringer" come
from?
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"Techie" wrote ...
Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.
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Remember also that they heated the coffee 40 degrees hotter than
"normal" because it was better to waft the aroma round the store
to boost sales. And the $ amount was calculated by taking one DAY
of corporate profits from coffee sales.
 
"Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> wrote in message
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Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.
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Which begs the obvious question, "Do people really drink coffee that is so
hot it burns them? (say +180 F)"

Or was the drive-thru pushing up the temperature so the coffee would still
be warm when the purchaser was 20 minutes down the road? Probably some
people complained that their coffee wasn't still hot after 20-30 minutes, so
the 'answer' was to push the temp. setting up to unsafe levels.
 
"Jim Thompson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Hopefully the customer was rendered sterile... thus cleansing the gene
pool ;-)
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ROTFLMAO. Thanks, Jim. Hopefully that is the last word on the matter.

Leonard Caillouet
 
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:27:05 -0800, the renowned "Richard Crowley"
<rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:

"Techie" wrote ...
Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
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No, she opened it to add cream and sugar and spilled it on herself.

Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.

Remember also that they heated the coffee 40 degrees hotter than
"normal"
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20 degrees was claimed, no need to embelish. I hate lukewarm coffee.

because it was better to waft the aroma round the store
to boost sales.
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So a trial lawyer would say. Have you actually smelled McDonald's
"coffee"? Wafting that odor around the store probably drives
customers away.

And the $ amount was calculated by taking one DAY
of corporate profits from coffee sales.
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Two days of GROSS coffee SALES over their many THOUSANDS of outlets.
Not a one of which had anything to do with what this person did to
herself. It was actually settled, presumably for much less than the
480K that a judge reduced that ridiculous jury award ($2.7M) to.

Just because there undeniably were damages doesn't mean that the
restaurant is reponsible. No matter how much you dislike corporate
America.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 19:14:22 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:27:05 -0800, the renowned "Richard Crowley"
rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:

"Techie" wrote ...
Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.

No, she opened it to add cream and sugar and spilled it on herself.

Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.

Remember also that they heated the coffee 40 degrees hotter than
"normal"

20 degrees was claimed, no need to embelish. I hate lukewarm coffee.

because it was better to waft the aroma round the store
to boost sales.

So a trial lawyer would say. Have you actually smelled McDonald's
"coffee"? Wafting that odor around the store probably drives
customers away.

And the $ amount was calculated by taking one DAY
of corporate profits from coffee sales.

Two days of GROSS coffee SALES over their many THOUSANDS of outlets.
Not a one of which had anything to do with what this person did to
herself. It was actually settled, presumably for much less than the
480K that a judge reduced that ridiculous jury award ($2.7M) to.

Just because there undeniably were damages doesn't mean that the
restaurant is reponsible. No matter how much you dislike corporate
America.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Hopefully the customer was rendered sterile... thus cleansing the gene
pool ;-)

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"Jim Thompson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Hopefully the customer was rendered sterile... thus cleansing the gene
pool ;-)
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Err.. she was 90+ they say? I doubt she'd be having any kids anyway. ;)

Tim

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Hopefully the customer was rendered sterile... thus cleansing the gene
pool ;-)

Err.. she was 90+ they say? I doubt she'd be having any kids anyway. ;)
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Just our luck, she has probably already created offspring.

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No matter what anyones opinion on it.
it was McDonolds Fault for settting the temp to
high. Thats why they had to Pay-out.


"daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> wrote in message
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Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.


Which begs the obvious question, "Do people really drink coffee that is so
hot it burns them? (say +180 F)"

Or was the drive-thru pushing up the temperature so the coffee would still
be warm when the purchaser was 20 minutes down the road? Probably some
people complained that their coffee wasn't still hot after 20-30 minutes,
so
the 'answer' was to push the temp. setting up to unsafe levels.
Click to expand...
 
"Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> wrote in message
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No matter what anyones opinion on it.
it was McDonolds Fault for settting the temp to
high. Thats why they had to Pay-out.

They had previously been sued for exactly the same thing and so knew what
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they were doing - *that's* why they got hit so big!

Ken


"daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> wrote in message
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Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because
the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.


Which begs the obvious question, "Do people really drink coffee that is
so
hot it burns them? (say +180 F)"

Or was the drive-thru pushing up the temperature so the coffee would
still
be warm when the purchaser was 20 minutes down the road? Probably some
people complained that their coffee wasn't still hot after 20-30
minutes,
so
the 'answer' was to push the temp. setting up to unsafe levels.
Click to expand...
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:10:02 GMT, "Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> Gave
us:

Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.
Click to expand...

The hell she did. She bought hot coffee, and should know not to
stick the damned thing in between her legs.

She didn't deserve a goddamned dime.
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:43:57 GMT, "daestrom"
<daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com> Gave us:

Or was the drive-thru pushing up the temperature so the coffee would still
be warm when the purchaser was 20 minutes down the road? Probably some
people complained that their coffee wasn't still hot after 20-30 minutes, so
the 'answer' was to push the temp. setting up to unsafe levels.
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The coffee pots have fixed plate temperatures. Line voltage can
swing... yada yada yada.. still same temp. in the pot.
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 19:14:22 GMT, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> Gave us:

snip
Two days of GROSS coffee SALES over their many THOUSANDS of outlets.
Not a one of which had anything to do with what this person did to
herself. It was actually settled, presumably for much less than the
480K that a judge reduced that ridiculous jury award ($2.7M) to.

It was initially $90M, and that got reduced, and I believe the
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reduced figure got reduced.

In other words... she all but lost on appeal.
 
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 22:37:29 GMT, "Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> Gave
us:

No matter what anyones opinion on it.
it was McDonolds Fault for settting the temp to
high. Thats why they had to Pay-out.
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Were that true, which it is not, it would have been Bunn Corporation
paying as it is they that set the temperature of their coffee
machines.

It was a frivolous suit pretty much.
 
In article <Nfcpb.458$ji3.237@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com says...
"Techie" <Jbtek@Optonline.net> wrote in message
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Just one thing on the Mcdonolds lady.
I saw the photos of HER burns from that coffee.
She had 2nd and 3rd degree burns all over her crotch.
The reason she spilled it on herself in the first place was because the
Styrafoam cup it was in was too friggin hot for her to hold, and thus
spilld on her. she was in a drive through.
Its not a joke getting burned like that.
if you want to know whats if like try boiling some water on the stove
and pour it in you lap.
That poor woman deserved every cent she got.


Which begs the obvious question, "Do people really drink coffee that is so
hot it burns them? (say +180 F)"
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Drinl it at 180F? Not likely. It's not likely "she" was burned
by 180F coffee either. It cools rather quickly though 160F
wouldn't be unusual. At 120F, keep it.

A good friend had a DD franchise when this nonsense went down.
Their specification was 180F (give or take three). If they
didn't *maintain* that specification they were fined by
corporate. Coffee is brewed hot and isn't worth squat cold.
Sorry.

Or was the drive-thru pushing up the temperature so the coffee would still
be warm when the purchaser was 20 minutes down the road? Probably some
people complained that their coffee wasn't still hot after 20-30 minutes, so
the 'answer' was to push the temp. setting up to unsafe levels.
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Again the Dunkin' DOughnuts specification was 180F, so McD's
wasn't out of line. The stupid broad who put it inbetween her
legs and the lawyers milking the system were at fault. We're all
paying for stupid people and the lawyers who prey on them.

--
Keith
 
In article <vqatkg3vntp63c@corp.supernews.com>,
tmoranwms@charter.net says...
"Jim Thompson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Hopefully the customer was rendered sterile... thus cleansing the gene
pool ;-)

Err.. she was 90+ they say? I doubt she'd be having any kids anyway. ;)
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Err, we do like to exaggerate. She was 81. ...old enough to
know not to put a cup of coffee between her thighs, WHILE
DRIVING! Sheesh!

--
Keith
 
I have always found McD's coffee impossible to drink without adding ice
or water. I can't begin to count the times I have asked the clerk to add
a little ice or water and have gotten that "blank" stare. The woman
deserved every dime she asked for.

Don Klipstein wrote:

The burns were real and the fact that the coffee was unusually hot for
coffee was real. The fact that the coffeecup lid was more difficult to
open without spillage than was available was real.
The fact that it is easy to find many lawsuits much more frivolous than
this one is real. Those who want to bash trial lawyers (something I often
agree with) should use as examples those really frivolous ones rather than
a high profile one that conservatives latch onto but which is not one of
the really frivolous lawsuits if you know all the facts!

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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