what's valuable in a microwave oven?

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On 2010-07-13, ian field <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it with a
stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the no regulator
situation!

DEAK?
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A battery of big round NiCd cells like megga-giant watch batteries.

These ones were about 3 or 4" dia.

Might be a Varta trade name - I haven't heard it for quite some time, or
seen such big round NiCd cells.
 
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:45 +1000, Barry wrote:

Microwave ovens have powerful magnets around the magnetron.

Are they better than hard disk magnets?

As Jason said "pretty wimpy when compared to the neodymium
magnets found in hard drives" !


Handy to tie on a length of string when you drop your keys down
a drain.

They are indeed very very strong ! So much so that I belive that
you would have difficulty getting the magnet past the cast iron
grate... :)

Poke it through with a twig.

I'll tell you what... I've half a dozen attached to the side of a
steel cabinet, if you can prize one off with your fingers, no tools
allowed,
you can have them all. (*)

I have about a dozen stuck on the steel striplight casing in the
garage - back in the days when MW ovens were worth repairing they
were my "bread & butter" work.

I did once leave one stuck to the side of the tank on my motorcycle,
but it slid off when I hit a pothole, the ceramic magnet shattered
as it hit the road and showered the side of the shiny black Merc I
was overtaking at the time.

Oooo Not good...

It seems to be a bit of a recurring theme.

One of my very early bikes was a step-thru moped sort of thing with 6V
flywheel generator and no regulator.

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it with
a stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the no
regulator situation!

Late for work as usual I thrashed it down the hill to the traffic
lights/crossroads at the bottom, where the lights were just turning
amber (as usual) so I left the braking to the last second and screamed
it down through the gears ready to blast away from the RH turn at the
lights.

All this was too much for the stack of DEAK cells which vented their
contents all over the side of the car in the left lane.

I've even had pistons escape while going along.
Click to expand...
ROLF ! :)

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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:45 +1000, Barry wrote:

Microwave ovens have powerful magnets around the magnetron.

Are they better than hard disk magnets?

As Jason said "pretty wimpy when compared to the neodymium
magnets found in hard drives" !


Handy to tie on a length of string when you drop your keys down
a drain.

They are indeed very very strong ! So much so that I belive that
you would have difficulty getting the magnet past the cast iron
grate... :)

Poke it through with a twig.

I'll tell you what... I've half a dozen attached to the side of a
steel cabinet, if you can prize one off with your fingers, no tools
allowed,
you can have them all. (*)

I have about a dozen stuck on the steel striplight casing in the
garage - back in the days when MW ovens were worth repairing they
were my "bread & butter" work.

I did once leave one stuck to the side of the tank on my motorcycle,
but it slid off when I hit a pothole, the ceramic magnet shattered
as it hit the road and showered the side of the shiny black Merc I
was overtaking at the time.

Oooo Not good...

It seems to be a bit of a recurring theme.

One of my very early bikes was a step-thru moped sort of thing with 6V
flywheel generator and no regulator.

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it with
a stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the no
regulator situation!

Late for work as usual I thrashed it down the hill to the traffic
lights/crossroads at the bottom, where the lights were just turning
amber (as usual) so I left the braking to the last second and screamed
it down through the gears ready to blast away from the RH turn at the
lights.

All this was too much for the stack of DEAK cells which vented their
contents all over the side of the car in the left lane.

I've even had pistons escape while going along.

ROLF ! :)
Click to expand...
It was pretty spectacular when the little Honda C70 let its piston escape,
the bits hit the line of cars I was passing - and vehicles going the other
way.

When the engine in the van let go I had a cop behind me, who probably
thought my going slowly was kerb crawling until the broken piston, oil and
other bits of metal were deposited on the road.

At that point I was about 20 miles from home and couldn't even make the 30
speed limit. It limped on for a bit more than another 10 miles before
clapping out completely.

The breakdown firm absolutely refused to send a tow truck without first
sending a patrol to see if it could be fixed at the roadside - despite me
explaining that there was a bloody great hole in the side of the engine
block with the mangled remains of a conrod poking out, and that all the oil
was now forming a long oil slick all the way from the town back there.
 
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On 2010-07-13, ian field <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it with a
stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the no regulator
situation!

DEAK?

A battery of big round NiCd cells like megga-giant watch batteries.

These ones were about 3 or 4" dia.

Might be a Varta trade name - I haven't heard it for quite some time, or
seen such big round NiCd cells.
Click to expand...
I'll bet you Googled that without success.

It is actually DEAC which was something like German Edison Accumulator
Company (but, in German, of course). DEAC was somehow associated with
Varta,

Andy Wood
woodag@trap.ozemail.com.au
 
On 10/05/2010 11:34 AM, Colin Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 06:00:06 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

Microwave ovens are commonly thrown out for verge pickups.
The last two in my town, I have noticed that somebody has
gone around and opened up every one of them, often with a
crowbar. So I am curious what component is worth the
effort to go scavenging thus?

Magnets.
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:45 +1000, Barry wrote:

Microwave ovens have powerful magnets around the magnetron.

Are they better than hard disk magnets?

As Jason said "pretty wimpy when compared to the neodymium
magnets found in hard drives" !


Handy to tie on a length of string when you drop your keys
down a drain.

They are indeed very very strong ! So much so that I belive
that you would have difficulty getting the magnet past the cast
iron grate... :)

Poke it through with a twig.

I'll tell you what... I've half a dozen attached to the side of
a steel cabinet, if you can prize one off with your fingers, no
tools allowed,
you can have them all. (*)

I have about a dozen stuck on the steel striplight casing in the
garage - back in the days when MW ovens were worth repairing they
were my "bread & butter" work.

I did once leave one stuck to the side of the tank on my
motorcycle, but it slid off when I hit a pothole, the ceramic
magnet shattered as it hit the road and showered the side of the
shiny black Merc I was overtaking at the time.

Oooo Not good...

It seems to be a bit of a recurring theme.

One of my very early bikes was a step-thru moped sort of thing with
6V flywheel generator and no regulator.

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it
with a stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the
no regulator situation!

Late for work as usual I thrashed it down the hill to the traffic
lights/crossroads at the bottom, where the lights were just turning
amber (as usual) so I left the braking to the last second and
screamed it down through the gears ready to blast away from the RH
turn at the lights.

All this was too much for the stack of DEAK cells which vented their
contents all over the side of the car in the left lane.

I've even had pistons escape while going along.

ROLF ! :)

It was pretty spectacular when the little Honda C70 let its piston
escape, the bits hit the line of cars I was passing - and vehicles
going the other way.

When the engine in the van let go I had a cop behind me, who probably
thought my going slowly was kerb crawling until the broken piston, oil
and other bits of metal were deposited on the road.

At that point I was about 20 miles from home and couldn't even make
the 30 speed limit. It limped on for a bit more than another 10 miles
before clapping out completely.

The breakdown firm absolutely refused to send a tow truck without
first sending a patrol to see if it could be fixed at the roadside -
despite me explaining that there was a bloody great hole in the side
of the engine block with the mangled remains of a conrod poking out,
and that all the oil was now forming a long oil slick all the way from
the town back there.
Click to expand...
Sorry Ian ! I'm doubled up in fits of laughter...
I can just imagine what the roadside assistance chappie said. I'll bet
it wasn't complimentary. ;-)

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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:08:45 +1000, Barry wrote:

Microwave ovens have powerful magnets around the magnetron.

Are they better than hard disk magnets?

As Jason said "pretty wimpy when compared to the neodymium
magnets found in hard drives" !


Handy to tie on a length of string when you drop your keys
down a drain.

They are indeed very very strong ! So much so that I belive
that you would have difficulty getting the magnet past the cast
iron grate... :)

Poke it through with a twig.

I'll tell you what... I've half a dozen attached to the side of
a steel cabinet, if you can prize one off with your fingers, no
tools allowed,
you can have them all. (*)

I have about a dozen stuck on the steel striplight casing in the
garage - back in the days when MW ovens were worth repairing they
were my "bread & butter" work.

I did once leave one stuck to the side of the tank on my
motorcycle, but it slid off when I hit a pothole, the ceramic
magnet shattered as it hit the road and showered the side of the
shiny black Merc I was overtaking at the time.

Oooo Not good...

It seems to be a bit of a recurring theme.

One of my very early bikes was a step-thru moped sort of thing with
6V flywheel generator and no regulator.

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it
with a stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the
no regulator situation!

Late for work as usual I thrashed it down the hill to the traffic
lights/crossroads at the bottom, where the lights were just turning
amber (as usual) so I left the braking to the last second and
screamed it down through the gears ready to blast away from the RH
turn at the lights.

All this was too much for the stack of DEAK cells which vented their
contents all over the side of the car in the left lane.

I've even had pistons escape while going along.

ROLF ! :)

It was pretty spectacular when the little Honda C70 let its piston
escape, the bits hit the line of cars I was passing - and vehicles
going the other way.

When the engine in the van let go I had a cop behind me, who probably
thought my going slowly was kerb crawling until the broken piston, oil
and other bits of metal were deposited on the road.

At that point I was about 20 miles from home and couldn't even make
the 30 speed limit. It limped on for a bit more than another 10 miles
before clapping out completely.

The breakdown firm absolutely refused to send a tow truck without
first sending a patrol to see if it could be fixed at the roadside -
despite me explaining that there was a bloody great hole in the side
of the engine block with the mangled remains of a conrod poking out,
and that all the oil was now forming a long oil slick all the way from
the town back there.

Sorry Ian ! I'm doubled up in fits of laughter...
I can just imagine what the roadside assistance chappie said. I'll bet
it wasn't complimentary. ;-)
Click to expand...
He got on the radio and called up a tow truck without any further messing
about.

The tow truck driver that used some colourful language, was the one that
took nearly 3 hours to turn up when my van siezed.

It was snowing and bloody cold to wait that long, so I started to figure out
how I could keep warm. The van had siezed close to the entrance to a disused
railway station which had a steep drive up to the building, the way I
figured out how to keep warm was to keep pushing the van up the drive and
try bumping it in reverse to try freeing the siezed engine.

Eventually (after many pushes up the hill) it freed and started with a very
sick sounding oily clatter and billowing smoke - just as I was revving it up
to try and pull away, the tow truck arrived.
 
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I did once leave one stuck to the side of the tank on my motorcycle,
but it slid off when I hit a pothole, the ceramic magnet shattered as
it hit the road and showered the side of the shiny black Merc I was
overtaking at the time.

Oooo Not good...

It seems to be a bit of a recurring theme.

One of my very early bikes was a step-thru moped sort of thing with 6V
flywheel generator and no regulator.

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it with a
stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the no regulator
situation!

Late for work as usual I thrashed it down the hill to the traffic
lights/crossroads at the bottom, where the lights were just turning amber
(as usual) so I left the braking to the last second and screamed it down
through the gears ready to blast away from the RH turn at the lights.

All this was too much for the stack of DEAK cells which vented their
contents all over the side of the car in the left lane.
Click to expand...
No wonder some motorists hate motorbike riders with criminals like you guys
riding them.

MrT.
 
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"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I did once leave one stuck to the side of the tank on my motorcycle,
but it slid off when I hit a pothole, the ceramic magnet shattered as
it hit the road and showered the side of the shiny black Merc I was
overtaking at the time.

Oooo Not good...

It seems to be a bit of a recurring theme.

One of my very early bikes was a step-thru moped sort of thing with 6V
flywheel generator and no regulator.

The lead acid battery gave up the ghost, so I decided to bodge it with a
stack of large DEAK cells - which didn't take kindly to the no regulator
situation!

Late for work as usual I thrashed it down the hill to the traffic
lights/crossroads at the bottom, where the lights were just turning amber
(as usual) so I left the braking to the last second and screamed it down
through the gears ready to blast away from the RH turn at the lights.

All this was too much for the stack of DEAK cells which vented their
contents all over the side of the car in the left lane.

No wonder some motorists hate motorbike riders with criminals like you
guys
riding them.

MrT.
Click to expand...

That was when I was a spotty teenager thrashing mopeds about until they blew
up and getting pulled over by plod up to several times a day.

Later on I learned "stealth mode" to get away with no tickets (well most of
the time anyway) but its all on computer now so I have to keep totally
legal.
 
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