What use is WiFi on a Costco Viso TV?

Ewald Böhm wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:03:13 -0400, micky wrote:

So I think I'll just get a USB active extension cord and a
keyboard/mouse to plug into it

Do I understand the situation correctly that the WiFi enabled TVs are dog
slow, for example, at browsing, because of two fundamental flaws?

1. The CPUs are slow, and,
2. Using a remote to type URLs is slow.

You can't fix the CPU processing power.
But, can you simply add a standard bluetooth keyboard?
Don't think blue tooth is not on the TV. I have an AMD A10 laptop
dedicated as HTPC. Laptop connects to AC2600 router on 5GHz. My down
load speed is 50mbps solid. No problem even real time streaming 1080P,4K
UHD, 3D videos. Native 4K material is rare but A/V receiver upscale to
4K on 4K 60" set. Our HT is 7.1 set up. Biggest I could afford for the
family room space. For storage I have small 4 bay Synology NAS with
4x2TB WD Red drives.(not powerful enough for some codec)
 
In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 5 Sep 2015 04:43:38 +0000 (UTC),
Ewald Böhm <ewvesb@gilltaylor.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:03:13 -0400, micky wrote:

So I think I'll just get a USB active extension cord and a
keyboard/mouse to plug into it

Do I understand the situation correctly that the WiFi enabled TVs are dog

I don't have a new tv.

slow, for example, at browsing, because of two fundamental flaws?

1. The CPUs are slow, and,
2. Using a remote to type URLs is slow.

You can't fix the CPU processing power.
But, can you simply add a standard bluetooth keyboard?

Thanks but won't work for me. You've come in in the middle of the
story, Not worth repeating it.
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:21:58 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

if you have say Direct TV you can get movies and other shows on demand
bystreaming off the internet.

I don't have direct tv.
My router does not have a coax input.

I thought that was a coax cable coming out of all those direct tv
antennas I see on houses.

If the output of Direct TV is coax, how does that coax get "into" your
network?

It can't go through the router.
How does it get into your router without a coax connector on the router?
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:49:10 -0400, gfretwell wrote:

My Samsung will take a USB mouse/keyboard but it is pretty clunky
searching the web.

I guess a USB wired mouse and keyboard would be useful.

Do most of these WiFi TVs have the ability to accept a typical USB mouse
and keyboard?
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:36:31 -0400, Nil wrote:

I don't know what it's called, it's just whatever was included with my
Samsung TV. It's deadly slow slow slow, and navigation with the TV
remote is painful. I tried hooking up a USB keyboard, but it didn't work
and I haven't bothered to try to troubleshoot it, since it's nothing I'm
interested in using. If I want to browse the web I'll just use one of
the several other computer devices in the house.

I went over to a friend's house who had a new samsung wifi tv and the
browsing was so slow that I'd say it's unusable for two reasons:
1. Typing the URL with the remote was punitive, and,
2. Once you had the URL, the time to load was interminable.

This might just be a bad Samsung TV, but, wow. It's great for checkboxes
but it doesn't work in real time.
 
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:40:40 -0700, Ameri-Clean wrote:

I recently got a smart TV then got a message from my provider (DIRECTV)
that I need to connect to the internet.

The output from the Direct TV is a coax cable, right?
How does that coax cable connect to your router?
 
dold@20.usenet.us.com wrote:
In alt.internet.wireless Ewald BC6hm <ewvesb@gilltaylor.ca> wrote:
Is that the sum total of the advantages of WiFi on a TV?

That's about it. I think my Sharp TV is Android.
Slow, clunky. Even the apps that work are inferior to what you would have
on a phone/tablet/PC.

I use the "MiraCast" option to cast my Android tablet to the scrren quite
often, so I can see my cat videos from YouTube in better quality.
THat probably is a very good and simple idea. Connecting laptop or
tablet to use as primary display and big creen TV set as a duplicate
display.
 
micky wrote:
In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 5 Sep 2015 04:43:38 +0000 (UTC),
Ewald Böhm <ewvesb@gilltaylor.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 18:03:13 -0400, micky wrote:

So I think I'll just get a USB active extension cord and a
keyboard/mouse to plug into it

Do I understand the situation correctly that the WiFi enabled TVs are dog

I don't have a new tv.

slow, for example, at browsing, because of two fundamental flaws?

1. The CPUs are slow, and,
2. Using a remote to type URLs is slow.

You can't fix the CPU processing power.
But, can you simply add a standard bluetooth keyboard?

Thanks but won't work for me. You've come in in the middle of the
story, Not worth repeating it.
Micky, B4 asking whole bunch of questions, you ought to search for your
answers on the 'net. Specially Youtube gives lots of visual demos. Be
specific when you have questions. Like telling us what you have and what
you are trying to do and what problem you are running into or something
you don't understand. As far as TV set goes, we're in HDTV era and HDMI
cable takes care of a/v hook ups. When you mention WiFi, then do you at
least have a router for your home network in your home?
 
On 9/4/2015 5:03 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Sep 2015 07:47:23 -0500, amdx
nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 9/3/2015 7:01 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:36:31 -0400, Nil
rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

On 03 Sep 2015, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in
alt.home.repair:

So what do you have that works poorl?. I was particularly
interested in having a browser (more than having Netflix.) so I
want to avoid what you have, if any other browser works better,
that is.

I don't know what it's called, it's just whatever was included with my
Samsung TV. It's deadly slow slow slow, and navigation with the TV

Okay, I can remember Samsung. Thanks.


I have a Sony, and it's slow too!

Okay. I can remember that too. But I'm getting discouraged.

I think I should follow Mark Lloyd's advice in next thread about using
wires when one can.

Nothing to do with wires, just turning on the tv to watch, it takes to
to boot,
and you must wait in order to change the channel.
Mikek
before
 
In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 5 Sep 2015 12:12:45 -0500, amdx
<nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 9/4/2015 5:03 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 4 Sep 2015 07:47:23 -0500, amdx
nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 9/3/2015 7:01 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:36:31 -0400, Nil
rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

On 03 Sep 2015, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in
alt.home.repair:

So what do you have that works poorl?. I was particularly
interested in having a browser (more than having Netflix.) so I
want to avoid what you have, if any other browser works better,
that is.

I don't know what it's called, it's just whatever was included with my
Samsung TV. It's deadly slow slow slow, and navigation with the TV

Okay, I can remember Samsung. Thanks.


I have a Sony, and it's slow too!

Okay. I can remember that too. But I'm getting discouraged.

I think I should follow Mark Lloyd's advice in next thread about using
wires when one can.


Nothing to do with wires, just turning on the tv to watch, it takes to
to boot,
and you must wait in order to change the channel.
Mikek
before

That's bad too. I hate my smart phone because it takes so long to turn
on, and 5 steps to turn off. The "bar" phone I used to use turned on or
off in a second or two.

My Philips DVDR, which does it's main job very well but has a bunch of
design flaws, takes noticeably longer to change channels than does the
Zenith set-top box.
 
On 05 Sep 2015, Ewald Böhm <ewvesb@gilltaylor.ca> wrote in
alt.home.repair:

The output from the Direct TV is a coax cable, right?
How does that coax cable connect to your router?

It doesn't. The TV network connection is via the common wireless or
ethernet cable.
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:52:39 -0400, Nil wrote:

It doesn't. The TV network connection is via the common wireless or
ethernet cable.

So, help me here.

Let's say the DirectTV dish is on the roof, and it has a coax cable that
goes down the side of the house, through a wall, to a wall plate.

From that wall plate, how does "it" (i.e., the tv signal) get on my
"network"?

You said the tv signal gets into the network via either the wireless
connection or through the wired ethernet (cat5) cable.

But, how does that coax cable tv signal get to either one of those (i.e.,
how does the coax connect to the wifi or the ethernet cable)?
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:57:53 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

The DirecTV boxes I've had all had an ethernet connection that I plugged
my home network into. I think some of the newer boxes also have wireless
capability, or maybe they provide a separate device to connect
wirelessly.

Oh. That explains it!

So, the coax cable that comes out of the dish on the roof then goes into
a "box" which has, as outputs, either coax or RJ45 or a wifi antenna?

Is that correct?
 
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 7:49:36 PM UTC-7, Ewald Böhm wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2015 17:57:53 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

The DirecTV boxes I've had all had an ethernet connection that I plugged
my home network into. I think some of the newer boxes also have wireless
capability,

So, the coax cable that comes out of the dish on the roof then goes into
a "box" which has, as outputs, either coax or RJ45 or a wifi antenna?

There are 'cable' systems that provide Ethernet I/O, and satellite
systems that provide an Ethernet socket (on older ones, telephone modem),
which is intended for Internet connection through your OTHER network
services. Satellite receivers rarely include any transmit-back-to-the-satellite
provisions, meaning they don't support full internet connection.

DirecTV says "we bundle with top internet providers", because the
internet service is distinct from the satellite receiver of television programming.
 

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