What Is 'Approximate' for Adv Purposes?

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Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover" wrote:
Ban wrote:


Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)
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Oh Metric!

Let's see, 126 x 2.54 = 320.04

See, they were counting in metric.

-Chuck
 
that's why they were in the 99-cent store- they were
incorrectly marked back in China, hence became a liquidation lot.
Spehro Pefhany
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Yup. It's the same reason you can get powdered drink mix there
at 1/3 the price you would pay elsewhere.
It failed the weigh station at the end of the assembly line
--or, to interpret Speff's comment: ALL YOUR BOLTS ARE BELONG TO US.
 
My box was labelled with 125.
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It's also clearly labeled "Stove bolts" yet it contains nuts.
Seems a bit light for 125, just looking, but there are a lot of nuts.
 
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:23:03 -0500, the renowned "Dave VanHorn"
<dvanhorn@cedar.net> wrote:

My box was labelled with 125.

It's also clearly labeled "Stove bolts" yet it contains nuts.
Seems a bit light for 125, just looking, but there are a lot of nuts.
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1.8 Euros, though. That's about double the cost in LA, even taking
sales taxes into account.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun - the Dark Remover\""
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric
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You got 100+ metric nuts and bolts for $1? Wish I could do that!

--
William Smith
ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com
 
"Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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Ban wrote:
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

I stopped by a 99 cent store to grab some wire ties, and I also
grabbed a box of "BOLTS & NUTS 300 PCS APPROX" also for 99 cents,
mainly because I wanted the compartmented box itself, not the
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the screws in one and have the other free for the led storage.

Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)
Click to expand...
METRIC???? you mean you can buy metric screws ??? I live in a supposedly
Metric country (Australia) and they are not easy to get hold of here.
 
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> schreef in bericht
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 17:23:03 -0500, the renowned "Dave VanHorn"
dvanhorn@cedar.net> wrote:


My box was labelled with 125.

It's also clearly labeled "Stove bolts" yet it contains nuts.
Seems a bit light for 125, just looking, but there are a lot of nuts.

1.8 Euros, though. That's about double the cost in LA, even taking
sales taxes into account.
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Seems that you folks get all the cheap screws ;)

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Thanks, Frank.
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<William P.N. Smith> wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
"BOLTS & NUTS 300 PCS APPROX"
I counted 126 pieces in all, which is
considerably less than 300!

No it's not, 126 base 10 is 330 base 6, so you got 30 base 6 (18 base
10) more parts than you paid for. Please take the extra parts back
and complain. 8*)

Did you count the top and bottom of the box separately, and any
dividers, stickers, wrapping, etc?

8*)
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Heh-heh. You've been eatin' too many funny pills lately!
Slap! Slap! There, consider yourself spanked with a wet noodle.

Man, now I remember. I knew there was one thing I really disliked about
those college math classes. Converting vrom base 10, to some other
arbitrary base. Like base four...

--
William Smith
ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com
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"Tim Williams" <tmoranwms@charter.net> wrote in message
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"Ban" <bansuri@web.de> wrote in message
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Since you wanted mainly the box, what does it matter?

He just wants to be an asshole. :p Er, I mean, uh, curmudgeon.

Tim

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More like a consumer who got ripped off. And no, I don't wanna be.
 
"mike" <spamme0@juno.com> wrote in message
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Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun - the Dark Remover\" wrote:
Mjolinor wrote:

"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
wrote
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I stopped by a 99 cent store to grab some wire ties, and I also
grabbed
a box of "BOLTS & NUTS 300 PCS APPROX" also for 99 cents, mainly
because
I wanted the compartmented box itself, not the hardware.

I got home and popped open the lid, and said, No way! That sure
doesn't
look like 300 pieces! I counted 126 pieces in all, which is
considerably less than 300!

So what does approxzimate mean, for advertising purposes? Should
one
consider the tolerance + or - 10 percent? 20 percent? 50
percent? In
this case, even at 50 percent, 126 pieces fails the test, since
it's
less than half of 300. Where does one draw the line and determine
that
it's a flagrant violation of advertising?



You need to go back and buy another 100 boxes. The variation should
be
(based on the current sample) between 126 and 474 with a reasonable
gaussian? distribution for it to be correct I suppose.


Well, there were about a hundred more boxes sitting on the shelf,
leading to the conclusion that they're obviously not the most
popular
item. So anyone want to contribute a buck to find out?? I go into
the
store every so often, I'll have to mention this to the owner.



Take a scale and weigh a bunch of 'em. The difference between 126 and
300 should be readily apparent.
99cent stores are fun. Read the labels. On those items that actually
meet labeling requirements, you'll find the concentrations of active
ingredients is way less than you'd expect from a "normal" brand...
for those that actually have active ingredients. What's
normally a 16 oz bottle is only 13oz.
mike

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Speaking of 99 cent stores, there was a good article today in The O.C.
Register about Mexican candy. Seems that the stuff made for export to
the U.S. is lead free, but they found that the stuff they sell down
south of the border is contaminated with lead. And now they find that
some stores here in So. Calif are selling the leaded version!

Some of the ladies shop at the 99 cent stores when the candy days like
halloween, xmas and valentines day come around. At work they put bowls
of the cheap mexican candy out for everyone. I'm probably getting more
lead into my system from candy than from soldering all the time!
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:57:07 -0700, "Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun - the
Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:


Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six
more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much
we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)

I's like when you go to Walgreens and need a small spray bottle.
Empty, it costs $1.99, but full of some crap you don't need, it's 99
cents.

John
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Yeah, I noitced that! I went down to the bargain store, I think it was
Pic'N'Save (now Big Lots!) and bought some spray bottles full of cleaner
for less than the empty ones. Also, I bought some of that "Awesome",
which is the 99 cent store equivalent to Fantastic, for the bottle, but
I found that the juice inside actually works fairly well.
 
"Chuck Harris" <cfharris@erols.com> wrote in message
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Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover" wrote:
Ban wrote:


Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six
more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much
we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)


Oh Metric!

Let's see, 126 x 2.54 = 320.04

See, they were counting in metric.

-Chuck
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Or was it 39.37??

I grabbed one nut out of the box and tried to screw it onto one of the
bolts. It wouldn't thread onto the bolt, so I grabbed another bolt.
Same thing, it wouldn't work. Then I looked closer at the nut, and it
had _no_ threads inside!!!

Well, I tried a bunch of the other nuts, and they all were threaded
properly. So I must have just picked the only dud. And that brings me
down to only 126 pieces. ;-)

I guess one might conclude that that company has very poor quality
control.

Our old resident curmudgeon at work, Burt, used to tell me, "Well you
know there's no shortage of nuts around here!" Ol' Burt succumbed to
cancer a few years ago, might have been '99. Sometimes I think back and
wish he was still around so we could shoot the breeze on occasion.
 
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
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that's why they were in the 99-cent store- they were
incorrectly marked back in China, hence became a liquidation lot.
Spehro Pefhany

Yup. It's the same reason you can get powdered drink mix there
at 1/3 the price you would pay elsewhere.
It failed the weigh station at the end of the assembly line
--or, to interpret Speff's comment: ALL YOUR BOLTS ARE BELONG TO US.
Click to expand...
If you want to see some good ones like that, go to www.engrish.com and
read some of the T-shirts. I got one of their "NO SMORKING" T-shirts.
No, those are not typos above. ;-)
 
"Richard Freeman" <deletethisrichard@atps.net> wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
wrote
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Ban wrote:
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

I stopped by a 99 cent store to grab some wire ties, and I also
grabbed a box of "BOLTS & NUTS 300 PCS APPROX" also for 99 cents,
mainly because I wanted the compartmented box itself, not the



the screws in one and have the other free for the led storage.

Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six
more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much
we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)

METRIC???? you mean you can buy metric screws ??? I live in a
supposedly
Metric country (Australia) and they are not easy to get hold of here.
Click to expand...
Well, they're easy to find here in LA. Just walk down the gutter and
pick up the ones that fall off all the rice burners that are on the
street. ;-)

That's why they say,
"Kawasaki, made of tin;
You drive them out, and push 'em in!"
 
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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"Chuck Harris" <cfharris@erols.com> wrote in message
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Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover" wrote:
Ban wrote:


Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six
more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much
we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)


Oh Metric!

Let's see, 126 x 2.54 = 320.04

See, they were counting in metric.

-Chuck

Or was it 39.37??

I grabbed one nut out of the box and tried to screw it onto one of the
bolts. It wouldn't thread onto the bolt, so I grabbed another bolt.
Same thing, it wouldn't work. Then I looked closer at the nut, and it
had _no_ threads inside!!!

Well, I tried a bunch of the other nuts, and they all were threaded
properly. So I must have just picked the only dud. And that brings me
down to only 126 pieces. ;-)

I guess one might conclude that that company has very poor quality
control.

Our old resident curmudgeon at work, Burt, used to tell me, "Well you
know there's no shortage of nuts around here!" Ol' Burt succumbed to
cancer a few years ago, might have been '99. Sometimes I think back and
wish he was still around so we could shoot the breeze on occasion.
Click to expand...
FYI, a nut without a thread is called a "washer" :)
 
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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"Richard Freeman" <deletethisrichard@atps.net> wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
wrote
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Ban wrote:
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

I stopped by a 99 cent store to grab some wire ties, and I also
grabbed a box of "BOLTS & NUTS 300 PCS APPROX" also for 99 cents,
mainly because I wanted the compartmented box itself, not the



the screws in one and have the other free for the led storage.

Actually there's enough room in one box to consolidate five or six
more
into it. Hmmm... I need some more boxes for small parts storage.
Also, these damn nuts & bolts are metric, and you just know how much
we
Americans hate those metric screws. ;-)

METRIC???? you mean you can buy metric screws ??? I live in a
supposedly
Metric country (Australia) and they are not easy to get hold of here.

Well, they're easy to find here in LA. Just walk down the gutter and
pick up the ones that fall off all the rice burners that are on the
street. ;-)

That's why they say,
"Kawasaki, made of tin;
You drive them out, and push 'em in!"
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I have the reverse problem, working for a US company with US made boxes that
mount up electricity poles. When you drop a nut in the grass it's everyone
on your knees and find it because there is no way to find a replacement in
the UK for those UNF bolts.
 
Hi All,
I live in Australia too and I find them really easy to get

Bunnings Warehouse

Universal Bolt Bloke

etc

Paul
 
I grabbed one nut out of the box and tried to screw it onto one of the
bolts. It wouldn't thread onto the bolt, so I grabbed another bolt.
Same thing, it wouldn't work. Then I looked closer at the nut, and it
had _no_ threads inside!!!
Click to expand...
I've seen worse.. How about a solenoid plunger that isn't magnetic!
 
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

I stopped by a 99 cent store to grab some wire ties, and I also grabbed
a box of "BOLTS & NUTS 300 PCS APPROX" also for 99 cents, mainly because
I wanted the compartmented box itself, not the hardware.

I got home and popped open the lid, and said, No way! That sure doesn't
look like 300 pieces! I counted 126 pieces in all, which is
considerably less than 300!

So what does approxzimate mean, for advertising purposes? Should one
consider the tolerance + or - 10 percent? 20 percent? 50 percent? In
this case, even at 50 percent, 126 pieces fails the test, since it's
less than half of 300. Where does one draw the line and determine that
it's a flagrant violation of advertising?
Click to expand...
Could just be an extreme example of the "competence" of
Chinese label translators; they might have meant "grams"
instead of "pieces". What's the box weigh full?

Mark L. Fergerson
 
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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More like a consumer who got ripped off. And no, I don't wanna be.
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Ripped off what? Ain't no one understand "you get what you pay for" no
more? Hehe

Tim

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